I agree here, I think the host system should not be allowed to send a
team. I also think it should go back to a strictly stock game. Thats
just the way I see it. As for who hosts it maybe in future runnings
it could be a drawing or something like that I dont know hehe.
Silver
--- In tradewars_2002@y..., "Gypsy" <Gypsy@t...> wrote:
> it should go back to the ORIGINAL rules and setup... i am not sure
why this winner decides
> where its hosted thing was put in anyway, it makes it too easy to
cheat... one of the original
> ideas of the BOTE was that it be played on NEUTRAL ground with
completely stock settings
> except for turns. No edited ferrengal, no extra colonists...Along
with that the host was not
> allowed to have a team playing. It's not a fluke that the original
rules and settings produced a
> clear winner and that after changes were made tie's and stand-
offf's started. I still can't figure
> out who decided it was ok to change the rules of the game anyway
>
> On 3 Apr 2002 at 16:40, Col Sanders wrote:
>
> > I would like to see Mac, as a last parting decree settle it. Heh.
I
> > will abide by his wishes, as BOTE still belongs to him in my view.
> > Earlier, before all this hoopla, he and I talked, and he asked,
if it
> > was draw, what would I want, I told him I would prefer he run it
> > again, given the hell the sysop is often subjected to, but, I
would do
> > it, if so chosen.
> >
> > At any rate, your idea seems legitimate to you, if it gets Mac's
ok.
> >
> > Col Sanders
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Massey" <brianmassey@e...>
> > To: <tradewars_2002@y...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
> >
> >
> > > Ahhh I see. Well then, it makes sense to me to have the 12
original
> > members
> > > of the Coastgames team and the Chicken Coop team decide where to
> > > host it. And have Mac cast the tiebreaking vote if necessary.
> > >
> > > Cherokee
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gypsy [mailto:Gypsy@t...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:26 PM
> > > To: tradewars_2002@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
> > >
> > >
> > > Zoobar isn't the founder of the BOTE, he and Maverick had a
basic
> > > idea of
> > a
> > > game, neither of
> > > them had anything to do with the original rules, setup, hosting
or
> > promotion
> > > of the game. This
> > > idea of the winning team picking the next host was one of the
rule
> > > changes that Mac put in.
> > >
> > > On 3 Apr 2002 at 15:08, Space Ghost wrote:
> > >
> > > > well bote does have a founder...his name is ...
> > > >
> > > > Zoobar and u would be better off posting this at twgsdotorg
for
> > > > him to see..
> > > >
> > > > SG
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Brian Massey <brianmassey@e...>
> > > > To: <tradewars_2002@y...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:50 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It seems to me that nobody is claiming "ownership" of the
BOTE,
> > > > > so no one can just step in and make a decision.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea what the best way to determine it will be,
but I
> > > > > think
> > > > there
> > > > > are only a few servers that have ANY possible claim to
hosting
> > > > > BOTE 2002.
> > > > >
> > > > > In no particular order...
> > > > >
> > > > > Fament, if Mac turns the TWGS back on
> > > > > -- because no single winner could really be decided
> > > > >
> > > > > Coastgames
> > > > > -- because Corp 10 "probably" tied for first place
> > > > >
> > > > > Chicken Coop
> > > > > -- because Corp 13 "probably" tied for first place
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As it stands now, Fament is down and Coastgames already has
a
> > > > > major tournament, Chess (which is fantastic by the way).
Chicken
> > > > > Coop looks like the logical choice to me. Of course, I am
> > > > > biased.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cherokee
> > > > > The Lost Traders Tavern
> > > > > http://tavern.homeip.net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hekate [mailto:hekate@t...]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:01 PM
> > > > > To: tradewars_2002@y...
> > > > > Subject: RE: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll second that
> > > > >
> > > > > about how I would place the game anyway
> > > > >
> > > > > but BOTE 02 should still be hosted at terra.playtw.org <G>
> > > > >
> > > > > cuz..what other sysop really wan'ts the headaches of the TW
> > > > > players?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hekate
> > > > > hekate@t...
> > > > > ICQ: 10370329
> > > > > MSN: twhekate
> > > > > http://www.twlinks.com
> > > > > http://www.playtw.org:90
> > > > > telnet://terra.playtw.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Talon Karrde [mailto:dab315@p...]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:16 AM
> > > > > To: tradewars_2002@y...
> > > > > Subject: Re: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, not that anyone seemed to care before, but the Cloud 9
> > > > > proposal
> > > > still
> > > > > stands.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st Place: Corps 10 / 13
> > > > > - The two strongest and most active during the final years,
> > > > > erm.. months
> > > > of
> > > > > the game. Let them argue where the game is to be played next
> > > > > year, if at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2nd Place: Corps 21 / 3
> > > > > - We initially offered to take second place because the
game was
> > > > > in stalemate mode and we didn't want to wake up at 7am
anymore.
> > > > > It still
> > > > suits
> > > > > the result because both us and corp 21 were able to hold off
> > > > > everyone else even if it was difficult to gain ground.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believed and still do believe that's the fairest possible
> > > > > result considering the level of activity and dedication
shown by
> > > > > all the teams.
> > > > If
> > > > > the game were to be decided by LAST years rules, we'd win
> > > > > because we have the most remaining players that aren't <ship
> > > > > destroyed> but last rules
> > > > were
> > > > > obviously not fair to everybody because I ended up getting
third
> > > > > place to
> > > > a
> > > > > stardock camper with one death.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's my suggestion in case someone has a better idea.
> > > > > -TK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "bdavey3619" <davey@c...>
> > > > > >Reply-To: tradewars_2002@y...
> > > > > >To: tradewars_2002@y...
> > > > > >Subject: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 07:56:32 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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