Hello Gypsy,

Wednesday, April 03, 2002, 15:26:02 PM, you wrote:

G> Zoobar isn't the founder of the BOTE, he and Maverick had a basic
G> idea of a game, neither of
G> them had anything to do with the original rules, setup, hosting or
G> promotion of the game. This

Correct.

G> idea of the winning team picking the next host was one of the rule
G> changes that Mac put in.

Not correct. SG dragged BOTE back to life and made sure 3rd annual
happened by contacting me and Zoobar and getting things on the road.
SG suggested FEN to run the 3rd as the winners of the first BOTE
then the 4th was supposed to be run by Intergate not sure who decided
that. But when intergate shut down Zoobar suggested that the 4th BOTE
would be run by the Winning teams BBS or the BBS that was appointed by the
winning team this was put in a post to the ygroups (or egroups as it
still was back then).

G> On 3 Apr 2002 at 15:08, Space Ghost wrote:

>> well bote does have a founder...his name is ...
>>
>> Zoobar and u would be better off posting this at twgsdotorg for him to
>> see..
>>
>> SG
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brian Massey <brianmassey@...>
>> To: <tradewars_2002@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:50 PM
>> Subject: RE: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
>>
>>
>> > It seems to me that nobody is claiming "ownership" of the BOTE, so
>> > no one can just step in and make a decision.
>> >
>> > I have no idea what the best way to determine it will be, but I
>> > think
>> there
>> > are only a few servers that have ANY possible claim to hosting BOTE
>> > 2002.
>> >
>> > In no particular order...
>> >
>> > Fament, if Mac turns the TWGS back on
>> > -- because no single winner could really be decided
>> >
>> > Coastgames
>> > -- because Corp 10 "probably" tied for first place
>> >
>> > Chicken Coop
>> > -- because Corp 13 "probably" tied for first place
>> >
>> >
>> > As it stands now, Fament is down and Coastgames already has a major
>> > tournament, Chess (which is fantastic by the way). Chicken Coop
>> > looks like the logical choice to me. Of course, I am biased.
>> >
>> > Cherokee
>> > The Lost Traders Tavern
>> > http://tavern.homeip.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Hekate [mailto:hekate@...]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:01 PM
>> > To: tradewars_2002@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: RE: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
>> >
>> >
>> > I'll second that
>> >
>> > about how I would place the game anyway
>> >
>> > but BOTE 02 should still be hosted at terra.playtw.org <G>
>> >
>> > cuz..what other sysop really wan'ts the headaches of the TW players?
>> >
>> > Hekate
>> > hekate@...
>> > ICQ: 10370329
>> > MSN: twhekate
>> > http://www.twlinks.com
>> > http://www.playtw.org:90
>> > telnet://terra.playtw.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Talon Karrde [mailto:dab315@...]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:16 AM
>> > To: tradewars_2002@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [tradewars_2002] Re: Bote 2001
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, not that anyone seemed to care before, but the Cloud 9
>> > proposal
>> still
>> > stands.
>> >
>> > 1st Place: Corps 10 / 13
>> > - The two strongest and most active during the final years, erm..
>> > months
>> of
>> > the game. Let them argue where the game is to be played next year,
>> > if at all.
>> >
>> > 2nd Place: Corps 21 / 3
>> > - We initially offered to take second place because the game was in
>> > stalemate mode and we didn't want to wake up at 7am anymore. It
>> > still
>> suits
>> > the result because both us and corp 21 were able to hold off
>> > everyone else even if it was difficult to gain ground.
>> >
>> > I believed and still do believe that's the fairest possible result
>> > considering the level of activity and dedication shown by all the
>> > teams.
>> If
>> > the game were to be decided by LAST years rules, we'd win because we
>> > have the most remaining players that aren't <ship destroyed> but
>> > last rules
>> were
>> > obviously not fair to everybody because I ended up getting third
>> > place to
>> a
>> > stardock camper with one death.
>> >
>> > That's my suggestion in case someone has a better idea.
>> > -TK

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