Well, it would seem that we won't be seeing NUON
in stores for another couple of months, probably
JUNE. This hasn't been verified exactly, but I've seen
some posts about it, and considering the date, I would
think it's probable.<br><br>On the upside though, maybe
there will be more games available at launch. It seems
Total Arkade Software is working on a racing title now
that Freefall 3050 A.D. is done (I'll be uploading
some pics after this).<br><br>As for the Jaguar, I'd
keep it regardless. Buy Battle Sphere, that will be
one more reason to keep it around, at least until a
NUON version of that surfaces (since ScatloLOGIC has
signed on, it will probably happen). Still, when and if
you decide to sell it, let me know. I might be in the
market...

Well, according to Samsungs' notes and the Yak's
homepage, the Samsung N2000 Nuon-enhanced DVD player is
supposed to be out in the first quarter of 2000. There's
only 12 days left for the first quarter. Come on VM
Labs and Samsung. Bring that baby out already. I can't
wait to see VLM2 and Tempest 3000, and Iron Soldier 3
shortly thereafter. Once the Nuon enhanced DVD players
come out I guess I won't have much reason to own my
Jaguar anymore. Other than maybe Defender 2000 that is.
Anyone interested in buying a Jag/JagCD with 40-45
games, procontroller, and 2 extra SVideo cables? :) I
might consider selling it after I get the
Nuon.<br><br>--su700fan

You either read it in a Gamers' Republic article
from January 21, or on NUONline which has a link to
that article. :)<br><br>Up until I read that article,
I also hadn't heard anything about Ballistic coming
to NUON. I've seen it in stores for PlayStation and
Game Boy Color, but I've never played it. Perhaps
someone who has played it for one of those systems can
share an opinion on it.

I forget exactly where I read this, but I read
that the Samsung NUON-enabled N2000 DVD player was
going to be bundled with a controller & BALLISTIC, a
puzzler available for Playstation & Game Boy Color.
Anyone know anything about this, because I've never even
heard this title mentioned by VM Labs...

What I want is a nice rotary controller to play T3K with...I'd rather not have
to build one for NUON too ;-)<br><br>Didn't that red controller have a rotary on
it or something?<br><br>-Kevin

I noticed the same thing. It seems like a lot of
the NUON controllers in the pictures don't have
analog control. They seem to just have one joypad. It's
also possible that the pictured controllers do have
analog control on the joypad, perhaps switchable to
digital control and back (similar to Microsoft's
SideWinder Game Pad Pro for IBM PC/compatible
computers).<br><br>GameFan's look at aMaze mentions that they were controlling
the game using an analog stick.Based on that, I would
guess that at least some of the NUON controllers have
analog capabilities.

I'm not syaing the controllers they've shown so
far are bad, but what about that red prototype
controller??? None of the other ones even seem to have analog
control, so I might be missing something here. In one of
the articles/releases, I remember one pad referred to
as a something "Devil" so that could be it. The
others just don't seem to cut it, not compared to that
one anyway...

Check out the pics from Winter CES at The Digital Bits. There's some sweet
closeups of NUON enhanced DVD players and such.<br><br><a
href=http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/wces00/ces.html
target=new>http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/wces00/ces.html</a><br><br>-Ke\
vin

Just thought I'd pass this along. NUON seems to
be getting some serious press lately (finally!).
This time, it's from IGN DVD
(<a href=http://dvd.ign.com/ target=new>http://dvd.ign.com/</a>).<br><br>Nothing
we don't already know, but it's good to see the
word starting to get around.<br><br>-Kevin

I just added a link to the NUON Movies at GameFan
in the links section, but if you don't want to have
to click it, the URL
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.gamefan.com/hotinfo.asp?s=4523&rs=
target=new>http://www.gamefan.com/hotinfo.asp?s=4523&rs=</a><br><br>I also
uploaded some pictures of the Samsung N2000
NUON-enabled DVD player, some NUON game cases, controllers and
another unidentified NUON player into the "Hardware"
folder. To top it all off, I also uploaded a few Myst
screens into the new "Myst" folder. I know, I know, I was
bored...

In case you guys don't know, Game Fan has four
movies of NUON games at their site. The games are
Tempest 3000, Iron Soldier 3, aMaze & Merlin Karting.
Sadly, there aren't any of Freefall 3050 A.D. (I want to
see this one *IN MOTION*) & the VLM-2. While their
overall treatment of NUON is in a positive light, I think
they stress that it's not really a gaming platform a
little too much, then throw in that the games (Merlin
Karting & IS3) look like N64 games. I'll say this once,
they do not look like N64 games. Having played quite a
few N64 games myself, I can honestly say that from
the screens and movies, I see none of the trademark
"blur" usually associated with N64 games. They might not
look as good as Dreamcast, but they are superior to
N64 or Playstation. Off to the impressions:
<br><br>aMaze (Fungus Amungus): The screenshots don't do this
game justice. The ball looks much better, and
everything seems to be running in a very high-resolution.
The ball's surface also seems to change when it
touches certain surfaces. Not particularly exciting, but
it looks nice. <br><br>Tempest 3000 (Minter): About
what I expected. The plasma effects are nice, and
everything looks and moves very nicely. Smooth surfaces and
excellent lighting. Everything seemingly glows with
plasma... <br><br>Iron Soldier 3 (Eclipse): Probably the
most beleaguered title at last year's e3 due to its
relatively unimpressive looks, Iron Soldier 3 is looking
much better, if not altogether stunning. The pace
seems to move faster than the previous games, and the
explosions are much improved, although they still have that
shattering block look to them. The one part where the IS
launches the guided missle is kind of nice, and reminds me
of a Hoth speeder from Star Wars (Eclipse could
easily use this engine for a shooter similar to Rogue
Squadron). The snow is a nice touch too... <br><br>Merlin
Karting (Miracle Designs): This one got panned for
looking too much like an N64 game, and while the polygon
counts probably aren't much higher, the texturing looks
much better, with no blur. There's also plenty of
lighting and weapon effects. Gameplay also has changed a
bit from their previous effort, Atari Karts, in that
Miracle seemingly has adopted a weapon system to go along
with the racing. Not bad. VM Labs should take note,
because with some tweaking & optimization, the engine
could be used for a 3D platformer of some kind, a genre
NUON must have. <br><br>Well, that's all. Download
them youselves to see what I mean, but be forewarned,
the file sizes range from just under 6MB to over 10,
so if you have a slow connection (like I do), you
might want to have a program like GetRight handy, as
GameFan's server seems to be bogged-down to boot.

If the five pictures of Merlin Karting on VM
Labs' Web site weren't enough for you, there's 32 more
on Miracle Designs' Web site. Miracle Designs is the
developer of Merlin Karting (they also did Atari Karts for
the Atari Jaguar). Go to the following page on their
site:<br><br><a href=http://www.miracle-designs.com/mk.htm
target=new>http://www.miracle-designs.com/mk.htm</a>

Can't wait for the Nuon to finally be released
(hopefully this spring). At this point, just by looking at
the new pics of VLM2, with their high resolution
output, I'll buy the Nuon system just for the VLM2 and
DVD playback alone. Tempest 3000 and Iron Soldier 3
would be the icing on the cake. Hopefully it comes out
and many games will follow. Even if it doesn't make
it out as a viable games system though, I would love
to see it come out just so I can find an excuse to
get a DVD system since it would include the VLM2 with
it.<br><br>--su700fan

VM Labs has finally released a few official
screens, although not the ones I've been hoping for (where
are the 3rd party games). Tempest 3000 looks as good
as ever, while Iron Soldier 3 looks to be
much-improved over it's disappointing e3 outing. Rounding out
the games are aMaze (a few more posted), Freefall
3050 A.D. (looks interesting) and Merling Karting
(some additional ones beside the VM Labs shots too).
MYST was also announced as a launch title, but why
bother posting pictures of a product I don't even
consider a game and has been on every CD-based platform
since the 3DO. In addition, I also posted some pictures
of NUON's GUI (graphical user interface) and the
VLM-2. More to come...

Well, in one way I suppose. The fact of the
matter is that the revelation of Playstation 2 has got
alot of DVD manufacturers scrambling, because if they
don't get some kind of interactivity included in their
DVD players before Playstation 2 launches, their
units will not sell. Enter NUON, which is currently the
only concrete solution for alot of these companies.
Because PS2 will be launched before most of the
competition expected, you can expect it's competitors to
scramble to become NUON OEM's, including NUON in their DVD
players. Not only will this give them the interactivity
they need to be competitive, but it will keep costs
down (it will actually reduce some) & saves their
having to develop something.<br><br>Right now I have to
think that the price to aim for will be $250 with NUON
incorporated. The fact that I'm actually seeing some Toshiba
models selling for $199 tells me that something is up
and that Toshiba is trying to sell all of their
remaining stock ASAP. <br><br>I am frustrated by the
silence, but all the indicators are pointing that things
are moving behind the scene much beyond what we are
currently aware of. Hopefully we'll start getting
confirmation of this fairly soon.

I wonder if the NDA's realize how much info on
NUON is needed. NUON news seems to be slower than
Jaguar news was a couple months ago. At least we can
view T3k, although I'd really like to see all the
other games as well(esp. Mechwarrior 3 or Resident Evil
3).<br><br>I just hope they'll give out info this month, which
would be nice(would've been nice several months ago of
course, but anyways)<br><br>Adam

Your guess is as good as mine quite frankly. I've
been keeping tabs on NUON for two years now, and every
time I think they're going to unveil something, well,
it simply doesn't pan out. Due to the unique nature
of the VM Labs Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA), they
cannot show their software until the Independent OEM's
give their permission. It looks as if no screens will
be released until Motorola and Toshiba officially
unveil their hardware iterations. Since Toshiba's line
won't be available until early 2000, I would guess that
the first official screens and previews will hit in
January, but that's just speculation. As a side note, none
of the few screens available have been official.
Also be aware that the only shots that are definitely
NUON titles are Tempest 3000, Iron Soldier 3 and
Merlin Karting (in that ECTS shot). The rest could very
well be Playstation or PC versions. It's frustrating,
but that's the way the NUON business model works.
It's a far different beast than the dedicated console
market is used to, much to the chagrin of gamers like
myself.<br><br>I will say one thing, due to the inclusion of DVD
Movie Playback in Playstation 2, expect NUON to gain
several more OEM's very soon. Due to the relatively
affordable price of the Playstation 2, expect DVD player
manufacturers to scramble to add some kind of interactivity in
their players. At the present, NUON is the only
tangible media processor available, so expect it to be
included in a variety of brands, not just Toshiba. Also
expect price cuts. I wouldn't be surprised if you see
NUON-enabled DVD players selling in the $200-$250 range.

what day will the screens come?just wondering alsowere do you get the
information?i would like all the stats.

I posted a couple of more NUON booth pics, this time from the ECTS '99 (a
European show). Not much new here, although the first one displays what looks
like Merlin Karting from developer Miracle.

I wish there were, but until Motorola and Toshiba
give the OK, VM Labs cannot show anything due to the
NDA's which basically prevent them or any 3rd party
developer from showing what they are doing (Don Thomas of
VM Labs cleared this up for me, they'd love to show
what they have, but simply can't since they don't
actively manufacture the hardware). The current lack of
information should be ceased soon, however, as Motorola's own
set-up may be released in limited quantities by
December, and Toshiba's first generation of NUON-enabled
DVD players by early next year. If I have anything
I'll post it. I have no affiliation with VM Labs, so
everything I have I've found from browsing around the web.
Then again, I couldn't very well post things if I did
work at VM Labs, thanks to those pesky NDA's.

SCREENS!!!!! I need screens i got to see more so do all the people on my street
and in my club.

Go to www.icwhen.com and download your NUON
Screensaver. It's basically identical to the FLASH
presentation found at www.nuon-tech.com (or www.nuon.cc) but
it's something NUON-related anyway. While you're
there, make sure to check out Don Thomas' (head of
Peripheral Licensing and 3rd Parties at VM Labs) DVD
Navigator page. Some cool stuff in there.

I just uploaded a few more e3 shots I found at IC
When. They are of Richard Miller, CEO of VM Labs and of
SC&T's Per4Mer line of peripherals and controllers
(hmmm, I wonder what driving games are going to use
those wheels?).

NUON is an imbedded technology that will be
built-into consumer electronics devices in the near future.
The NUON processor itself, also known as Merlin, is
true 128-Bit architecture, with benchmarks placing it
around the same performance level of a 1 Ghz Pentium
(that's 1,000 Mhz). It also supports a slew of new 3D
effects, such as plasma, advanced particle effects,
procedural texturing, phong shading, voxel rendering and
some real-time raytracing (something an SGI
workstation cannot do).<br><br>As for the price, NUON should
fall in the same price range as current DVD players,
so anywhere from $250 to $500, depending on the
model. Don't worry though, NUON software will run on any
model, whether it's the $250 (a NUON-enabled DVD player)
or the $500+ model (more aligned towards a set-top
box unit, such as STREAMASTER, which should be in the
$400 range and also incoporates a Motorola PowerPC
chip). As far as the games are concerned, the hardware
itself is identical, and VM Labs has guaranteed that any
game will run on any NUON-enabled system. From a DVD
player, to console, to portable, to a possible add-on PC
card, if the NUON logo is on it, it will play the
games. And if $250 seems too high, rumors also persist
that there will be stripped down console-like versions
in the $150 range.<br><br>As for the games, well,
companies like Capcom (NUON versions of Resident Evil and
Street Fighter are STRONGLY rumored), Acclaim,
Activision, Hasbro Interactive (they hold Atari &
Microprose), Psygnosis, TH*Q, CRAVE, etc. have already signed
on. Very little has been revealed as far as what
games will be available though, with only shots of Iron
Soldier 3 and Tempest 3000 available. As of late though,
shots of aMaze and Titan 3 have surfaced, so more
should be coming in the near future.<br><br>As for when,
Toshiba will be releasing DVD players in early 2000, with
Motorola's STREAMASTER arriving later this year. There are
several other manufacturers, but they have not revealed
when yet. One would assume they would be released
around the same time as Toshiba's.

could somebody give me some info on nuon? what is it and when is it coming out
and how much is it going to be?

I just posted a few NUON hardware pics, as well as a few of Titan 3 and Tempest
3000. I should be adding more soon, so watch for them...

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Just read this in the Letters Section of Next Gen
(Print, not NGO):<br><br>Letter:<br>"I just started
reading your mag & found it to be quite informative. If
possible, I would like to see a comparison article between
VM Labs' NUON chip and Sony's Emotion Engine."
<br><br>NG: Unfortunately, it's not possible - VM Labs and
Motorola haven't released enough of their specs to do a
comparison. However, both companies say their chips can do
realtime MPEG-2 (DVD Level) decoding in realtime. There is
some speculation that the VM Labs' media processor
uses a unique computing architecture different from
the I.A.S.-type architecture that has characterized
all computers since ENIAC, but again, we've had no
confirmation from Motorola or VM Labs about this. <br><br>Very
interesting...

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