I just picked up 60 vinyl records for free!!!!!! I love vinyl as
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3.8mm for nes, 4.5mm for Snes.  Both of those sizes
are SECURITY BITS.  Which are a pain to find.
www.mcmelectronics.com  used to have them and so did
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dsullo/store.htm .  I
don't know if either place still has them.  Most of
the newer nintendo stuff uses "tri-wing" screws.
special screwdrivers can be bought from ebay and other
repair places fairly cheap and are easy to find.

-Joe






--- Russell Archey <scyther879@...> wrote:
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> or not, but it has
> something to do with modifications.  What size
> screwdriver would I need
> to open most NES, SNES, etc. carts and where do I
> get it?  For some
> reason I'm thinking 3.7mm but I'm not sure.  Thanks.
>
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Subject: [nesmodifications] Question about NES Carts

I have a question that I'm not sure if it goes here or not, but it has
something to do with modifications.  What size screwdriver would I need
to open most NES, SNES, etc. carts and where do I get it?  For some
reason I'm thinking 3.7mm but I'm not sure.  Thanks.

Russell Archey

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I have a question that I'm not sure if it goes here or not, but it has
something to do with modifications.  What size screwdriver would I need
to open most NES, SNES, etc. carts and where do I get it?  For some
reason I'm thinking 3.7mm but I'm not sure.  Thanks.

Russell Archey

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very cool.

-Joe



--- rimma_69 <rimma_69@...> wrote:
> I did use a pin connector from a game genie. If you
> cut the back of
> the NES out you can screw the board down at the same
> time as having
> a game cart inserted. This cuts down on how much
> stress is put on
> the board. I have had the NES like that for about 2
> years and
> haven't had any problems with it. Most of this
> message was most
> likely confusing. Sorry about that.
>
>
> --- In nesmodifications@yahoogroups.com, Joe
> <palacki808@y...> wrote:
> > Looks more of a "rear load" to me,  that was not
> > intended to sound bad.
> >
> > Did you use the pin connector from a game genie to
> do
> > that?  If not what did you use to recieve the cart
> and
> > where did you get it?  Lastly, does that straight
> > connection put any stress on the board or is the
> cart
> > supported in some way?
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- rimma_69 <rimma_69@y...> wrote:
> > > I uploaded pictures of my NES that has had the
> > > "toploader" mod. Tell
> > > me what you think of them.
> > >
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I did use a pin connector from a game genie. If you cut the back of
the NES out you can screw the board down at the same time as having
a game cart inserted. This cuts down on how much stress is put on
the board. I have had the NES like that for about 2 years and
haven't had any problems with it. Most of this message was most
likely confusing. Sorry about that.


--- In nesmodifications@yahoogroups.com, Joe <palacki808@y...> wrote:
> Looks more of a "rear load" to me,  that was not
> intended to sound bad.
>
> Did you use the pin connector from a game genie to do
> that?  If not what did you use to recieve the cart and
> where did you get it?  Lastly, does that straight
> connection put any stress on the board or is the cart
> supported in some way?
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
> --- rimma_69 <rimma_69@y...> wrote:
> > I uploaded pictures of my NES that has had the
> > "toploader" mod. Tell
> > me what you think of them.
> >
> >
>
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My suggestion is simply soldier the pin connector to
the mother board with about 8-10 inches of wire.  That
way you can position it where ever you want it.
Especially pointed up so there is less stress on the
pins themselves.

-Joe




--- Ronald Schatte <tech_unit@...> wrote:
> Ok, question (the most important one I have for this
> e-mail): Who here has a toploading Nintendo
> (Nintendo
> Entertainment System Revised or 2, whatever you want
> to call it)? I would like to see a diagram of how
> the
> motherboard and the 72-pin connector are positioned.
>
>
> Joe (and anyone else who's interested), my idea is
> to
> cut through the side of the 72-pin connector to get
> the length of the pins able to bend, in fact, almost
> remove the entire section of plastic to bend it
> backwards (of course it couldn't go forwards). As
> for
> anchoring/supporting it, I think a bar will have to
> be
> put in through the sides of the casing for enough
> support for a person shoving a cartridge in. Now
> what
> made of is another question, plastic would do the
> trick but you'd probably have to put in criss-cross
> bars to support each other which would get rather
> thick, wood is definitely out of the question, but
> possibly the rf shield would suffice through
> modifying
> it while still using its original screws.
>
> Wulp, that's been my rant for the day, keep in
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Ok, question (the most important one I have for this
e-mail): Who here has a toploading Nintendo (Nintendo
Entertainment System Revised or 2, whatever you want
to call it)? I would like to see a diagram of how the
motherboard and the 72-pin connector are positioned.

Joe (and anyone else who's interested), my idea is to
cut through the side of the 72-pin connector to get
the length of the pins able to bend, in fact, almost
remove the entire section of plastic to bend it
backwards (of course it couldn't go forwards). As for
anchoring/supporting it, I think a bar will have to be
put in through the sides of the casing for enough
support for a person shoving a cartridge in. Now what
made of is another question, plastic would do the
trick but you'd probably have to put in criss-cross
bars to support each other which would get rather
thick, wood is definitely out of the question, but
possibly the rf shield would suffice through modifying
it while still using its original screws.

Wulp, that's been my rant for the day, keep in touch!

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Looks more of a "rear load" to me,  that was not
intended to sound bad.

Did you use the pin connector from a game genie to do
that?  If not what did you use to recieve the cart and
where did you get it?  Lastly, does that straight
connection put any stress on the board or is the cart
supported in some way?

-Joe




--- rimma_69 <rimma_69@...> wrote:
> I uploaded pictures of my NES that has had the
> "toploader" mod. Tell
> me what you think of them.
>
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I uploaded pictures of my NES that has had the "toploader" mod. Tell
me what you think of them.

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I have mentioned this before in other groups.
Replacing the pin connector is not always neccessary.
If you open up the nes to remove the pin connector,
look at it before you throw it away.  If the pins are
not really dirty but simply (which often times
happens), you can simply bend them back into place to
make a tighter connection.  Just be careful when
you're doing it.

Now for the mod, It took me about 4 hours.  I
soldiered new contacts to the existing pin connectors
to take up some space.  Enough space so that you don't
have to push the cart down in the deck, you now just
slide it in and its already making contact.  This
method saves alot of wear and tear.  The downfall to
this is it takes a lot of time to do it right.

-Joe


--- pamer_1 <pamer@...> wrote:
> This is a tip rather than a mod, but useful
> nonetheless.
>
> If when you insert a cart it tends to blink on
> frequent occassions
> one simply way to get a better connection is to open
> the
> game "hatch" and put your hand on the cart and
> wiggle it towards you.
> My NES was almost impossible to use until I learnt
> of this tip from
> the pawnbroker where I usually buy NES games from.
>
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This is a tip rather than a mod, but useful nonetheless.

If when you insert a cart it tends to blink on frequent occassions
one simply way to get a better connection is to open the
game "hatch" and put your hand on the cart and wiggle it towards you.
My NES was almost impossible to use until I learnt of this tip from
the pawnbroker where I usually buy NES games from.

Constructive criticism is fine by me. If it makes the walkthrough
easier to understand and the mod easier to do then its good.

Do that and also keep in mind that you can mod your
NES 2 (toploader) to have stereo sound (of course it
would only be mono sound since they didn't make games
with stereo back then). I (as well as Joe I know of,
possibly others) would like to be updated on your
progress, if you don't mind, we can offer constructive
criticism also.

-Ronald

--- Joe <palacki808@...> wrote:
> make certian you find a good way to support the pin
> connector.  I tried that mod already, but I ended up
> breaking off part of the mother board.  It was a
> stupid mistake, I wasn't paying attention.
>
> -Joe
>
>
> --- rimma_69 <rimma_69@...> wrote:
> > Im working on a walkthrough on how to turn your
> side
> > loading NES
> > into a top loading NES. It ends up being better
> then
> > the top loader
> > because you have AV! I should have the walkthrough
> > up in the next 2
> > weeks.
> >
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make certian you find a good way to support the pin
connector.  I tried that mod already, but I ended up
breaking off part of the mother board.  It was a
stupid mistake, I wasn't paying attention.

-Joe


--- rimma_69 <rimma_69@...> wrote:
> Im working on a walkthrough on how to turn your side
> loading NES
> into a top loading NES. It ends up being better then
> the top loader
> because you have AV! I should have the walkthrough
> up in the next 2
> weeks.
>
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Im working on a walkthrough on how to turn your side loading NES
into a top loading NES. It ends up being better then the top loader
because you have AV! I should have the walkthrough up in the next 2
weeks.

Hey Joe,
   A lot of us from other groups are here, so we know
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Thanks.

-Joe



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Hello, my name is Joe.  I'm new to the group but not to nintendo
repair and tinkering.  Someone from another nes group posted a link
to here.  Just thought I'd give a shout out to everyone.

-Joe

Here is a mod for the NES LED.
http://www.neszone.net/moddingandfixing/ledchange.shtml

Raven,
   There are multiple modifications (some not being
mods) that can do part or all of what you are asking
for. Again I am at work but when I get home I will
hopefully be able to find some files about that stuff.
I know you can make it a front loader into a toploader
but you will have to do some cutting of the chasis.
Easiest route would be to get a Famicom and the
Nintendo liscensed 60-72 pin converter. In fact, if
you're lucky, they used to include them with some of
the first games, you'll just have to do some looking
and have good weight judgement to find the cartridges
with them. I'll see what I can find when I get home.

-Ronald



> Okay. I'm new here... and have never done any MODs
> to any of my machines
> (though I've had some done by others or used gadgets
> and go-arounds).
> The NES is one system I've never actually owned,
> though in the last few
> years I've been looking to get one (you know, set it
> up next to my Atari
> 2600). Well, just before they disappeared off store
> shelves, I remember
> seeing a top loader version. I was too young to have
> that kind of pocket
> money, and parents thought I was too big for
> videogames by then... so I had
> to pass. Now years later (after seeing years of
> friends doing the cartridge
> ritual), I find that the rare top-loader is even
> more of a prize than I
> thought... and still just as costly as it was 20
> years ago!
>
> SO.... is there a way to convert a traditional NES
> into either a top-
> loader, or some other alteration that gets around
> all the hassles I'm sure
> everyone knows what I'm talking about... OR, can I
> simply get a FamiCom
> (which i thought were all top-loaders anyway) and do
> some sort of pin
> convertion (60 to 72) to play US carts? (or better
> yet... play BOTH)
>
> If this sounds like the words of a dreamer n00b... I
> apologize. But you
> asked, so I posted :)
>
> Raven
> [who's been getting by with a GP32 and NesterDC for
> her NES fix]
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this might be off topic, but does anyone know any mods for using NES,
SNES or Genesis controllers on a PSone? I have the NES Advantage and
the SNES/Genesis Fighter Sticks and would like to find a way to use
them on the PSOne



--- In nesmodifications@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald Schatte"
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> Anyone looking for any modifications or instructions to some they
> know about? I know of a handful of them and will not mind posting
> them or uploading them for anyone to use, that's what we're here
for,
> right?

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I did a toploading mod for my NES. The game loads at the back of the
console now. It cost me a game genie :(. But it was worth it in the
need because it no long blinks :).

>
>
>
>
> Anyone looking for any modifications or instructions to some they  know
> about? I know of a handful of them and will not mind posting  them or
> uploading them for anyone to use, that's what we're here for,  right?

Okay. I'm new here... and have never done any MODs to any of my machines
(though I've had some done by others or used gadgets and go-arounds).
The NES is one system I've never actually owned, though in the last few
years I've been looking to get one (you know, set it up next to my Atari
2600). Well, just before they disappeared off store shelves, I remember
seeing a top loader version. I was too young to have that kind of pocket
money, and parents thought I was too big for videogames by then... so I had
to pass. Now years later (after seeing years of friends doing the cartridge
ritual), I find that the rare top-loader is even more of a prize than I
thought... and still just as costly as it was 20 years ago!

SO.... is there a way to convert a traditional NES into either a top-
loader, or some other alteration that gets around all the hassles I'm sure
everyone knows what I'm talking about... OR, can I simply get a FamiCom
(which i thought were all top-loaders anyway) and do some sort of pin
convertion (60 to 72) to play US carts? (or better yet... play BOTH)

If this sounds like the words of a dreamer n00b... I apologize. But you
asked, so I posted :)

Raven
[who's been getting by with a GP32 and NesterDC for her NES fix]