"The 3DO Company and New World Computing
Heroes of Might and Magic III Complete
Version 4.0.1 Update
March 2001

Thank you for updating the Heroes of Might and Magic III
Complete game. This update corrects some known issues that
should make playing the Heroes III: Complete game even more
fun.

* Game now correctly runs Spoils of War campaign.

* Trade with Allied Heroes in a multiplayer game no longer
randomly displays any memory errors.

* Inadequate Video Settings dialog no longer appears when
running in Millions of Colors.
This patch has been floating around 3DO's offices since this
spring, but they chose not to release it because they the demand
was (supposedly) low, and it would cause too much trouble if
the patch inadvertently introudced new bugs to the game.
However, they have e-mailed it to some people who asked for it.
If any of these issues bother you, you can fill out their support
form and request it."


So, the update that was completed in March has finally seen the
light of day.  Apparently, if you fill out their support form and
request the patch, they may send it to you. This is according to
one person who recieved it in an e-mail from 3DO.  I filled out the
support form a couple days ago myself, but have yet to recieve a
response.  The form is here for those who would like the patch:

http://www.3do.com/support/mac_support.shtml?PAGE=
mac%2Femail.htm

It is not available for download on their site at the moment. They
said this is due to low demand for the patch.

Anthony Modica & Pam Trochesset wrote:

> It was months ago I played those scenarios and I remember the Festival of Life
> ones to be vexing.  I can recall being stuck and frustrated as you say.  I
> remember having to save the game alot and tried some risky gambling strategies
of
> basically taking a mega army under my strongest hero  and taking the enemy
towns
> (losing my own towns as I could not defend them) and basically conducting "hit
&
> run" type raids on the enemy's towns to get their troops on day 1 and then
vacate
> when they came back with their stronger armies.  This strategy -- after many
> tries -- eventually worked but it made for some very weird games where my
towns
> were continuously being lost, conquered and lost again.  You need to play
those
> scenarios guerilla warfare style in   order to win.

Thanks for that. That is really helpful - I'll keep on trying.


-- Rob Bannister

It was months ago I played those scenarios and I remember the Festival of Life
ones to be vexing.  I can recall being stuck and frustrated as you say.  I
remember having to save the game alot and tried some risky gambling strategies
of
basically taking a mega army under my strongest hero  and taking the enemy towns
(losing my own towns as I could not defend them) and basically conducting "hit &
run" type raids on the enemy's towns to get their troops on day 1 and then
vacate
when they came back with their stronger armies.  This strategy -- after many
tries -- eventually worked but it made for some very weird games where my towns
were continuously being lost, conquered and lost again.  You need to play those
scenarios guerilla warfare style in   order to win.


Turbodog

Rob Bannister wrote:

> Erica Marceau wrote:
>
> > On 9/22/01 4:05 PM, "Rob Bannister" <robban@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Had a look back so I would remember that scenario. Yes, I did have
> > > problems, but it all came good in the end! I'm attaching a Mac Word (MS
> > > Office 2001) file for the whole of the "Liberation" scenarios, hope you
> > > can read it. The second set of tips on T&Trogs is the most useful (I
> > > think I've changed the attribution - it is really Q. Dragon, not
> > > Maneater who wrote that).
> >
> >     Thanks so much for writing this walkthrough and I will certainly take a
> > look at it when I come to those maps. I'm still stuck on From Day to Night
> > myself and look forward to seeing how someone else plays the same maps.
>
> Hope it helps. No-one has leapt in so far to offer me help with Clan Wars
> (Armaggedon - Festival of Life) which I have been stuck on for a month. It's
> one of those ones that start easy and then, in about Month 2, they start
> attacking you. When (and if) you beat them, they just run away, so you have to
> face them again, and although I have 4 Level 20 heroes carried over from the
> previous scenario, I just can't afford to keep them all equipped with armies.
>
> -- Rob Bannister
>
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Erica Marceau wrote:

> On 9/22/01 4:05 PM, "Rob Bannister" <robban@...> wrote:
>
> > Had a look back so I would remember that scenario. Yes, I did have
> > problems, but it all came good in the end! I'm attaching a Mac Word (MS
> > Office 2001) file for the whole of the "Liberation" scenarios, hope you
> > can read it. The second set of tips on T&Trogs is the most useful (I
> > think I've changed the attribution - it is really Q. Dragon, not
> > Maneater who wrote that).
>
>     Thanks so much for writing this walkthrough and I will certainly take a
> look at it when I come to those maps. I'm still stuck on From Day to Night
> myself and look forward to seeing how someone else plays the same maps.

Hope it helps. No-one has leapt in so far to offer me help with Clan Wars
(Armaggedon - Festival of Life) which I have been stuck on for a month. It's
one of those ones that start easy and then, in about Month 2, they start
attacking you. When (and if) you beat them, they just run away, so you have to
face them again, and although I have 4 Level 20 heroes carried over from the
previous scenario, I just can't afford to keep them all equipped with armies.

-- Rob Bannister

On 9/22/01 4:05 PM, "Rob Bannister" <robban@...> wrote:

> Had a look back so I would remember that scenario. Yes, I did have
> problems, but it all came good in the end! I'm attaching a Mac Word (MS
> Office 2001) file for the whole of the "Liberation" scenarios, hope you
> can read it. The second set of tips on T&Trogs is the most useful (I
> think I've changed the attribution - it is really Q. Dragon, not
> Maneater who wrote that).

     Thanks so much for writing this walkthrough and I will certainly take a
look at it when I come to those maps. I'm still stuck on From Day to Night
myself and look forward to seeing how someone else plays the same maps.
--
Erica J. Marceau (Contributing Editor)
Mac OS Journal - monthly web magazine - <http://www.macosjournal.com>
AIM: Erica Marceau , ICQ: 25043398

The willow knows what the storm does not, that the power to endure pain
outlives the power to inflict it.

I believe The Mac Smith (www.themacsmith.com) will ship overseas.


>Grrrr... HOMM3 Complete never reached the France...
>Expect to see me back on HOMM4!
>
>>  De : "Holycat" <lefleau@...>
>>  Répondre à : mac-homm@yahoogroups.com
>>  Date : Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:40:15 -0000
>>  À : mac-homm@yahoogroups.com
>>  Objet : [mac-homm] New tournament
>>
>>  We are starting a new tournament for the few of us that play
>>  heroes online on a mac. I know their is some good players out
>>  there, come play with us and have fun.
>>
>>  You can join the tournament here:
>>
>>  http://www.geocities.com/testosterone_asu/Heroes_Tournamen
>  > t
>>
>

Grrrr... HOMM3 Complete never reached the France...
Expect to see me back on HOMM4!

> De : "Holycat" <lefleau@...>
> Répondre à : mac-homm@yahoogroups.com
> Date : Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:40:15 -0000
> À : mac-homm@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : [mac-homm] New tournament
>
> We are starting a new tournament for the few of us that play
> heroes online on a mac. I know their is some good players out
> there, come play with us and have fun.
>
> You can join the tournament here:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/testosterone_asu/Heroes_Tournamen
> t
>
>
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We are starting a new tournament for the few of us that play
heroes online on a mac. I know their is some good players out
there, come play with us and have fun.

You can join the tournament here:

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t

This was posted on Evolution Interactive's website a couple days ago:

"One other thing. I know that a lot of you a really looking for me to do the
port of a certain series that I have worked on in the past. Well, we have
been actively talking to you-know-who about the port and all parties want it
to happen. I got a couple of source dumps from them already, but they are
obviously rushing to get it out the door and are making a lot of bad
decisions (code-wise) in the process. I have played the game a fair bit
already, and I'm really not impressed."

Interesting, huh?

-rogue

> I didn't mean to belittle it, but this is both a mailing list, a web
> forum, a bookmark list, and a file list.
>
> If you haven't been to the web site, check it out:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mac-homm

Yeah, I haven't been there in a while - but yes, it can be used like a web
forum. The forum planet has the advantages of being linked from several
different websites and being more heavily trafficked because of this.

The idea for creating these new forums was because of the general lack of
maturity on the Heroes Community forums and me and angelspit wanted to make
something better and more focused.

On a side tangent - I'm updating my website in a few minutes with news on
Heroes IV for Macintosh.

>
>
>
>er, I thought this was a mailing list. anyway, if nobody's going to
>use the forum, I guess it will end up getting removed.
>
>This forum is tied in with other HOMM-forums and sites, so at the
>very least, it should get some exposure. *shrug*  It was created in
>response to the volume of childish postings on Heroes Community and
>wasn't meant to compete with this mailing list.

I didn't mean to belittle it, but this is both a mailing list, a web
forum, a bookmark list, and a file list.

If you haven't been to the web site, check it out:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mac-homm

--
Thanks,

Allan Marcus

>  >Hello,
>>
>>There is now a forum (moderated by me) where we can discuss things
>>related to Heroes for Macintosh.  We can talk about bugs/problems,
>>mac-relevant news, set up multiplayer games, or talk about my website
>>if anybody has anything to say about that.
>>
>>The forums are located here:
>>
>><http://forumplanet.com/strategyplanet/homm/>http://forumplanet.com/
>>strategypla
>  net/homm/
>>
>>Later all,
>
>
>What's the difference between forumplanet and yahoo groups?  How many
>Mac HOMM on-line web boards do we need?
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Allan Marcus


er, I thought this was a mailing list. anyway, if nobody's going to
use the forum, I guess it will end up getting removed.

This forum is tied in with other HOMM-forums and sites, so at the
very least, it should get some exposure. *shrug*  It was created in
response to the volume of childish postings on Heroes Community and
wasn't meant to compete with this mailing list.

>Hello,
>
>There is now a forum (moderated by me) where we can discuss things
>related to Heroes for Macintosh.  We can talk about bugs/problems,
>mac-relevant news, set up multiplayer games, or talk about my website
>if anybody has anything to say about that.
>
>The forums are located here:
>
><http://forumplanet.com/strategyplanet/homm/>http://forumplanet.com/strategypla\
net/homm/
>
>Later all,


What's the difference between forumplanet and yahoo groups?  How many
Mac HOMM on-line web boards do we need?

--
Thanks,

Allan Marcus

Hello,

There is now a forum (moderated by me) where we can discuss things
related to Heroes for Macintosh.  We can talk about bugs/problems,
mac-relevant news, set up multiplayer games, or talk about my website
if anybody has anything to say about that.

The forums are located here:

http://forumplanet.com/strategyplanet/homm/

Later all,

-rogue

Has anyone completed Festival of Life, one of the Armaggedon campaigns?
I can't find any strategies for it posted anywhere. On the whole, it
seems relatively easy, as I'm on the 3rd scenario now without help,
although I had a big panic in the 2nd one (Taming the something or
other) because you have only 4 months to wipe out every creature on the
map and I got to the last week and just couldn't spot any more. Tracked
them down in the end - just a couple of little Trogs that snuck in at
the beginning of the week, but quite hard to spot on a big map!

Anyhow, in the third one (already forgotten the name), you still have
your 4 heroes who are all about Level 20 and you have to beat 3 enemy
heroes. Sounds easy, till you go to the Thieves' Guild and see their
stats which are pretty damned close to your best hero's! And of course,
they start attacking you before you've been able to build up a strong
enough army.

I know speed, or at least the right speed, is the key in all HOMM
campaigns; I mean you have to knock out their castles so they can't
build up huge armies, but it's quite difficult and I'd welcome any
tips.

Had a look back so I would remember that scenario. Yes, I did have
problems, but it all came good in the end! I'm attaching a Mac Word (MS
Office 2001) file for the whole of the "Liberation" scenarios, hope you
can read it. The second set of tips on T&Trogs is the most useful (I
think I've changed the attribution - it is really Q. Dragon, not
Maneater who wrote that).

Anyway, the point is: we all learnt early on in HMM that you have to
beat the bad guys early before they get too strong. If you're like me,
you sometimes (often!) make the mistake of enjoying the game instead of
going for the win. I think that if you stick to the TIMETABLE suggested
in the attached tips, it will work for you.

It's clever the way the work these scenarios - all those tempting
targets to lure you away from the main goal, and of course, you need
some of those mines and items anyway - tricky stuff! In this one, you
must eliminate all other competition apart from the superhero so that
only you can get significantly stronger instead of him. At least, if I
remember rightly, there's no time limit on this scenario.

-- Rob Bannister

>Allan Marcus wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I'm having trouble with the tunnels and troglodytes scenario. The
>>  computer's best hero is way more powerful than mine, even though I
>>  own most of the towns.  I suppose I could just keep plodding through
>>  a few more weeks until I get more armies, but he get's more too.
>>
>>  Any ideas on a strategy to beat this scenario?
>
>So long since I did that one, I've forgotten - it was certainly a lot easier
>than the scenario I'm stuck in (Armageddon: Dragon Slayer: Faerie Dragons)!
>Have you checked out the tips at:
>
><http://www.astralwizard.com/heroes3/h3tips.htm>http://www.astralwizard.com/her\
oes3/h3tips.htm
>I followed his advice pretty much. Yes, it did take me several goes - what I
>find with a lot of scenarios after Erathia, is that luck plays a huge role,
>and that starting from the beginning again (not just restarting the
>scenario, but going back to the save game at the end of the previous one -
>you did save that didn't you?) is a big help, and for no apparent reason.
>
>-- Rob Bannister
>

Thanks!  I've give it a try.

I think when the map is first generated some random elements are
initialized.  That's why starting from before the beginning can have
an affect on the game.

And yes, I save often :-)


--
Thanks,

Allan Marcus

Allan Marcus wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm having trouble with the tunnels and troglodytes scenario. The
> computer's best hero is way more powerful than mine, even though I
> own most of the towns.  I suppose I could just keep plodding through
> a few more weeks until I get more armies, but he get's more too.
>
> Any ideas on a strategy to beat this scenario?

So long since I did that one, I've forgotten - it was certainly a lot easier
than the scenario I'm stuck in (Armageddon: Dragon Slayer: Faerie Dragons)!
Have you checked out the tips at:

http://www.astralwizard.com/heroes3/h3tips.htm
I followed his advice pretty much. Yes, it did take me several goes - what I
find with a lot of scenarios after Erathia, is that luck plays a huge role,
and that starting from the beginning again (not just restarting the
scenario, but going back to the save game at the end of the previous one -
you did save that didn't you?) is a big help, and for no apparent reason.

-- Rob Bannister

Allan Marcus wrote:

> >Light Nicky wrote:
> >
> >>  Best erotic comics for AVS members:
> >>
> >>  <http://www.comics100.non.ru>http://www.comics100.non.ru
> >>
> >
> >Looks interesting, but I see it's subject to Adult Check. I used to belong
> >until I realised that to actually *see* anything, you have to join their
> >'gold' version which is reasonably costly.
> >
> >-- Rob Bannister
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >mac-homm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
> Sorry that subscription got past me.  I think I'll post that if you
> want to join the board, you have to send me an e-mail.  Spammers
> won't go to that trouble.

Not sure I entirely understand your message, but here's an email!

-- Rob Bannister

Hi,

I'm having trouble with the tunnels and troglodytes scenario. The
computer's best hero is way more powerful than mine, even though I
own most of the towns.  I suppose I could just keep plodding through
a few more weeks until I get more armies, but he get's more too.

Any ideas on a strategy to beat this scenario?

--
Thanks,

Allan Marcus

>Light Nicky wrote:
>
>>  Best erotic comics for AVS members:
>>
>>  <http://www.comics100.non.ru>http://www.comics100.non.ru
>>
>
>Looks interesting, but I see it's subject to Adult Check. I used to belong
>until I realised that to actually *see* anything, you have to join their
>'gold' version which is reasonably costly.
>
>-- Rob Bannister
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>mac-homm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Sorry that subscription got past me.  I think I'll post that if you
want to join the board, you have to send me an e-mail.  Spammers
won't go to that trouble.


--
Thanks,

Allan Marcus

Light Nicky wrote:

> Best erotic comics for AVS members:
>
> http://www.comics100.non.ru
>

Looks interesting, but I see it's subject to Adult Check. I used to belong
until I realised that to actually *see* anything, you have to join their
'gold' version which is reasonably costly.

-- Rob Bannister

>Best erotic comics for AVS members:
>
>http://www.comics100.non.ru


Do they contain nude pics of Jenova and Adelaide?

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Nu wrote:

> Logistics is a bonus to your overall movement (the length of that
> green bar next to your hero's portait)
> Pathfinding is a reduction in the penalty you get for moving over
> rough terrain (swamp, snow, etc)
>
> Both skills will increase your hero's movement, but in different
> ways. Pathfinding is useful if the map you are playing has a lot of
> rough terrain. Logistics is universally useful, and unless the map I
> was playing on had all rough terrain, I would usually pick logistics
> over pathfinding.
>
> >Can someone please explain the exact difference between
> >Pathfinding and Logistics?
> >
> >
> >
> >

Thanks - I think that does explain it.

> -- Rob Bannister

Perth, Western Australia.

Logistics is a bonus to your overall movement (the length of that
green bar next to your hero's portait)
Pathfinding is a reduction in the penalty you get for moving over
rough terrain (swamp, snow, etc)

Both skills will increase your hero's movement, but in different
ways. Pathfinding is useful if the map you are playing has a lot of
rough terrain. Logistics is universally useful, and unless the map I
was playing on had all rough terrain, I would usually pick logistics
over pathfinding.


>Can someone please explain the exact difference between
>Pathfinding and Logistics?
>
>
>
>
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> Can someone please explain the exact difference between
> Pathfinding and Logistics?
>
>
>
>
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>
Pathfinding make you able to travel over different terrains
faster....logistics allows you to travel faster over any terrain...if you
did not have pathfinding but you had logistics you would travel faster than
someone without logistics over the same terrain, but not as fast as someone
with both pathfinding and logistics.

Make sense?  Or did I confuse myself?
--
Ray

"Lay down the melancholy burden of sanity"

Can someone please explain the exact difference between
Pathfinding and Logistics?

You can buy it directly from 3-DO.  www.3do.com   go to their  web store.

Charles Lechasseur wrote:

> >>i currently have Heroes III and i am looking into getting Homm3 Complete.
> >>any suggestions as to where i can find it at a good price (or at all, since
> >>my local CompuCenter boutique doesn't have it)?
> >>
> >
> >
> >I got Mac HOMM3 Complete from Compusa.com for $20.
>
> unfortunately, i live in Quebec, Canada, so we don't have any CompUSA
> around here... as i said, i haven't seen Homm3 Complete in any gaming
> store; i was looking for a place to buy it online, perhaps.
>
> --
>
> charles lechasseur - danov@...
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/danov/marathon/
>
>   "The butts of evil are awaiting my bootprints!"
>      - Minsc
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>Not CompUSA store.  Http://www.compUSA.com on-line.  They still have it
>for $19.99 US.
>
>here's the direct URL:
>
>http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?prodzip=&product_code=280816

hey, thanks. that's the best deal i've found so far.


--

charles lechasseur - danov@...
http://www3.sympatico.ca/danov/marathon/

   "The butts of evil are awaiting my bootprints!"
      - Minsc