I have Age of Empires...it's a really good game if you're into real time
strategies. Differentiated unit selections per Nationality (I forget what
they are really call) and special bonuses for each of them two...plus
different building images allow players to "have their own favourites", and
a very good map editor + campaign editor allow for lots of fun.
	 If you're into these types of games, AoE is a great one that I'd suggest
buying.
	 I've only played the demo of Magesty, but it seems like a really fun game
and I'd get it if I came across it in a store. Lack of command irritates me
sometimes, but notheless, an interesting game (as Rob said).
	 I don't really know if it's worth buying.
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>
>   Heroes IV, on
>>  the other hand, is something totally different.
>
>But will we definitely get a Mac version? I believe the PC game will
>be
>out in December - how long will we have to wait?
>
>RobB


The possibility of a Macintosh version is pretty high.  If there is a
Macintosh version, I would guess that the delay will be shorter than
the delay between the Mac and Windows versions of Heroes III.  (that
delay was 9 months though...)

> Well, I like Heroes III better than either of those games.
>
> Anyway, Age of Empires is a real-time strategy game (while Heroes is
> turn-based), and I only played it a little bit, but it was a lot
like
> WarCraft or StarCraft, and didn't stand out in my mind.
>
> Majesty is another real-time strategy game...  It's a fun game, and
> it's much different than anything else out there, but it's not one
of the
> best games in the world. It's neat though.
>
> I'd recommend getting Heroes III Complete (that comes with both
expansions)
> and Majesty, but if I was to get just one, it would probably have
to be
> Heroes III Complete.
>

Agree with all the above comments - I really enjoyed Majesty, but
most
games are fairly short and we're still waiting for the Mac version of
some of the 'expansions'.

   Heroes IV, on
> the other hand, is something totally different.

But will we definitely get a Mac version? I believe the PC game will
be
out in December - how long will we have to wait?

RobB

Very true. I understand now.
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I fear it's a nerverending quest if u go that way ...
The best i had done about editing map for Homm is emulating Windows with
Virtual PC.
the Win editor works under it ...
Nothing better ti tell to u .. sorry.

XS

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Subject: [mac-homm] MAC MAP EDITOR


> I'm sure this has been brought up many times before, but *ahem* WHY
> DON'T WE GET A FREAKIN' MAP EDITOR?!?!? HUH?!?! *ahem* whoo, what a
> riot.
> S:D
> If anyone knows where I could find a Mac Homm3 Map Editor, many thanks
> to you and could you please send my the address.
>
> -Fawkes
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>I'm sure this has been brought up many times before, but *ahem* WHY
>DON'T WE GET A FREAKIN' MAP EDITOR?!?!? HUH?!?! *ahem* whoo, what a
>riot.
>S:D
>If anyone knows where I could find a Mac Homm3 Map Editor, many thanks
>to you and could you please send my the address.
>
>
> 		 -Fawkes



It doesn't exist.  There's many reasons for this. First of all, it is
a pain in the ass to use.  Second, less than 5% of the people who buy
the game would actually seriously use it.  Third, it would take
longer to port than the game did, and then it would not have been
profitable to release the game on Macintosh at all.

I'm sure this has been brought up many times before, but *ahem* WHY
DON'T WE GET A FREAKIN' MAP EDITOR?!?!? HUH?!?! *ahem* whoo, what a
riot.
S:D
If anyone knows where I could find a Mac Homm3 Map Editor, many thanks
to you and could you please send my the address.

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The following mac-homm poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Which is your favorite HOMM
version?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- HOMM Original, 0 votes, 0.00%
- HOMM II, 1 votes, 11.11%
- HOMM III, 8 votes, 88.89%



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Start Heroes III Complete for Macintosh.

Choose New Game, Campaign, Restoration of Erathia, Spoils of War.

Does the game crash?

If so, you can send e-mail to: customer-support@... and explain
the problem. Maybe they'll put out a patch if enough people are
having the same problem.

Make sure you specify that it's the mac version too. Don't do this if
you've already e-mailed them about this problem before.

rogue

CompUSA has Mac HOMM 3 Complete for only $20!

> I'm an HOMM2 player looking for a new game for myself and my
> 9 year old son.  We are thinking about getting HOMM3, but we
> are also looking at Majesty or Age of Empires.  Anyone play
> those games?  How dothey compare to HOMM?

Well, I like Heroes III better than either of those games.

Anyway, Age of Empires is a real-time strategy game (while Heroes is
turn-based), and I only played it a little bit, but it was a lot like
WarCraft or StarCraft, and didn't stand out in my mind.

Majesty is another real-time strategy game, but it's much different in that
you don't have direct control over your people.  They all do their own
thing, but you can influence your heroes by building in a certain direction
and by placing bounties on creatures you want killed.  It's a fun game, and
it's much different than anything else out there, but it's not one of the
best games in the world. It's neat though.

I'd recommend getting Heroes III Complete (that comes with both expansions)
and Majesty, but if I was to get just one, it would probably have to be
Heroes III Complete.


> Anyone want to comment on HOMM2 vs. HOMM3?

If you like Heroes II, you'll love Heroes III. If you get Heroes III, get
Heroes III Complete though, because that comes with the expansions and has
many other small improvements.

In terms of actual gameplay... well, what's new:  More of everything. There
is now an undergound and above-ground area to explore. Each hero has a
unique specialty, more stuff to build, better graphics, etc, etc.  It plays
a lot like Heroes II though, most of the changes are subtle.  Heroes IV, on
the other hand, is something totally different.

>I'm an HOMM2 player looking for a new game for myself and my
>9 year old son.  We are thinking about getting HOMM3, but we
>are also looking at Majesty or Age of Empires.  Anyone play
>those games?  How dothey compare to HOMM?

i think they differ a great deal from HOMM. Majesty and Age of Empires are
real-time strategy games, if i am not mistaken... they are more like
Starcraft or Warcraft. HOMM is not real-time, it is a pure strategy game, a
bit like Civilization or Master of Orion.

>Anyone want to comment on HOMM2 vs. HOMM3?

i found HOMM3 to simply be better than HOMM2 on every front. better
graphics, more critters, more spells, more towns... pretty sweet.


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I'm an HOMM2 player looking for a new game for myself and my
9 year old son.  We are thinking about getting HOMM3, but we
are also looking at Majesty or Age of Empires.  Anyone play
those games?  How dothey compare to HOMM?

Anyone want to comment on HOMM2 vs. HOMM3?

Thanks,

Allan

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14832737.  Easier to contact by ICQ than the group boards.

It's Sat 8:21 AM (CST).  Anyone up for a game?

Good, I hope the tournament will continu.  I'm very busy now but I
can probably play during the weekend.

Holycat




> I just asked Nu, and he said I'm playing you. :-)
>
> So, I guess we should do that sometime...
>
>
> On a side note, I'll be running "The Rogue's Challenge II"
sooner or later.
> It will be a single scenario/score based competition again. I
will use 6
> maps this time, and they will all be ones from Heroes III
Complete (so
> you'll need that to play). 4 will come with the game, 1 will be
downloaded
> from a website, and 1 will be made by me.
>
> If anybody has questions or suggestions for this, feel free to
respond.
>
> --
> rogue
>
> rogue@s...
> http://strategyplanet.com/homm/mac

> What happened to the tournament?


I just asked Nu, and he said I'm playing you. :-)

So, I guess we should do that sometime...


On a side note, I'll be running "The Rogue's Challenge II" sooner or later.
It will be a single scenario/score based competition again. I will use 6
maps this time, and they will all be ones from Heroes III Complete (so
you'll need that to play). 4 will come with the game, 1 will be downloaded
from a website, and 1 will be made by me.

If anybody has questions or suggestions for this, feel free to respond.

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What happened to the tournament?

>Have there been any patches for HOMM3 Mac?
>
>I've never seen any, but 3DO's site has about zippo for Mac info...


There are no patches for Heroes III, nor will there ever be.

There may be a patch released for Heroes III Complete someday
according to some rumors, but do not ask 3DO about this.  If it comes
out, I guarantee you'll all know. If it doesn't, there's not much
that can be done.

Have there been any patches for HOMM3 Mac?

I've never seen any, but 3DO's site has about zippo for Mac info...

on 6/4/01 11:44 PM, Allan Marcus at allan@... wrote:

>>
>> As for Heroes II, what problem are you having? Is it the CD ROM lockup
>> problem?  I have a fix for that, I just haven't put it up on my site yet.
>> It's very similar to the Heroes 1 fix I have posted though.
>
> HOMM2 under MacOS 9.1 cannot open saved games, and the mulit-player
> game (via tcpip) locks up on the guest when the game starts.  Anyone
> our there using HOMM2 with MacOS 9.1?

That is an odd one.  I'll try it again soon and see what happens.  I might
still have it installed somewhere.


> My monitor is only three years old it I can switch to just about any
> resolutions you can imagine, so I don't know what resolution HOMM3
> switches to, but if it's 800x600, it's odd, since 800x600 is no
> problem on my monitor.  It has the same problem with 9.1, so it
> doesn't seem to be a OSX problem.  Since I can just hit command-F,
> it's not a big problem for me.

That's odd. At least you have a fix for it. I haven't heard of people having
that problem before. Is this Heroes III or Heroes III Complete that is doing
this?


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>
>My monitor is only three years old it I can switch to just about any
>resolutions you can imagine, so I don't know what resolution HOMM3
>switches to, but if it's 800x600, it's odd, since 800x600 is no
>problem on my monitor.  It has the same problem with 9.1, so it
>doesn't seem to be a OSX problem.  Since I can just hit command-F,
>it's not a big problem for me.
>
>


What version of DrawSprocketLib are you using? I think you need at
least version 1.7.3 for Heroes 3 to run fullscreen properly. Check
your extensions folder to see if you have an older version in there,
cause some older games will install old versions of DrawSprocket even
though you have a newer one.

Cheers
Matt

>
>As for Heroes II, what problem are you having? Is it the CD ROM lockup
>problem?  I have a fix for that, I just haven't put it up on my site yet.
>It's very similar to the Heroes 1 fix I have posted though.

HOMM2 under MacOS 9.1 cannot open saved games, and the mulit-player
game (via tcpip) locks up on the guest when the game starts.  Anyone
our there using HOMM2 with MacOS 9.1?


>  > I figured out the screen resolution issue, I just have to press
>>  command-f after HOMM3 hoses my monitor and the monitor
>>  switches back.  I haven't tried it yet under OSX, but Tech Support
>>  said it would not work.  Tech support also swore up and down
>>  that HOMM Complete was NOT out on the mac, so I don't really
>>  think I'll trust them.
>
>Well, Heroes III ran under the OS X public beta just fine. (and resolution
>switching worked as well.) In the future I'll try Heroes III Complete under
>OS X. (which, of course, does exist, regardless of what tech support says. I
>got mine on Dec. 24). 3DO Tech support is misinformed, and they don't appear
>to support the game at all. My tech support message was never responded to.
>
>I don't know why you'd be having monitor problems though, unless you are
>using an old monitor that doesn't support 800x600 very well.

My monitor is only three years old it I can switch to just about any
resolutions you can imagine, so I don't know what resolution HOMM3
switches to, but if it's 800x600, it's odd, since 800x600 is no
problem on my monitor.  It has the same problem with 9.1, so it
doesn't seem to be a OSX problem.  Since I can just hit command-F,
it's not a big problem for me.


--
Thanks,

Allan Marcus

> I post a question about getting HOMM2 to work under OS 9.1,
> and another one about the resolution switching in HOMM3
> Demo, and they both seem to have disappeared. It's hard to tell
> since their search engine is useless (I search for subject
> contains Mac and I get no results.  I search for stuff I've authored
> and I get no results).

Resolution switching in Mac OS X is one I saw recently, but it's scrolled
off the bottom of the screen for me now.  (fully threaded, show 600
messages.)

The board is heavily trafficked, so it might be hard to find. A better way
to search might be to use the "Find..." option in the Edit menu of Internet
Explorer 5 and search for 'mac'.  That's how I found the OS X message.

As for Heroes II, what problem are you having? Is it the CD ROM lockup
problem?  I have a fix for that, I just haven't put it up on my site yet.
It's very similar to the Heroes 1 fix I have posted though.

They might delete 'tech support' questions from their boards. I'm not sure.
Sounds kinda rude, but in the HOMM board they seem pretty strict about
deleting off-topic stuff. I like some of the discussions about Heroes IV and
the Hero of the Day stuff.


> I figured out the screen resolution issue, I just have to press
> command-f after HOMM3 hoses my monitor and the monitor
> switches back.  I haven't tried it yet under OSX, but Tech Support
> said it would not work.  Tech support also swore up and down
> that HOMM Complete was NOT out on the mac, so I don't really
> think I'll trust them.

Well, Heroes III ran under the OS X public beta just fine. (and resolution
switching worked as well.) In the future I'll try Heroes III Complete under
OS X. (which, of course, does exist, regardless of what tech support says. I
got mine on Dec. 24). 3DO Tech support is misinformed, and they don't appear
to support the game at all. My tech support message was never responded to.

I don't know why you'd be having monitor problems though, unless you are
using an old monitor that doesn't support 800x600 very well.

> somebody doesn't, the URL is in my sig. (and we're always
looking for input
> and writing from other mac users)

Your URL is also in the Bookmark list of the Yahoo Group (if you
haven't seen the Yahoo Group web site for this list, take a look.
It's got a place for a FAQ, bookmark list, file database, calendar,
polls, all sorts of goodies).

>
> Anyway, I had been thinking about starting a list like this
myself, now I
> don't have to. I can put some mention of this on my website if
you
> (moderator) would like. Just tell me what to write.

Feel free to point a link to it.  Also, tell people to subscribe to
send mail to

mac-homm-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


>
> I am curious about a couple things. First, what kind of
questions were you
> asking that were getting removed? I've seen mac questions on
there before
> that haven't been removed. I even replied to one today that was
posted on
> June 1 about Mac OS X. I guess the "community" board is for
talking about
> gameplay issues, not system-specific technical issues.
>

I post a question about getting HOMM2 to work under OS 9.1,
and another one about the resolution switching in HOMM3
Demo, and they both seem to have disappeared. It's hard to tell
since their search engine is useless (I search for subject
contains Mac and I get no results.  I search for stuff I've authored
and I get no results).

I figured out the screen resolution issue, I just have to press
command-f after HOMM3 hoses my monitor and the monitor
switches back.  I haven't tried it yet under OSX, but Tech Support
said it would not work.  Tech support also swore up and down
that HOMM Complete was NOT out on the mac, so I don't really
think I'll trust them.


Thanks,

Allan Marcus

> Considering the 3DO "community"
> boards are pretty much PC oriented (My Mac questions
> were actually removed!), this forum will give us a
> chance to post questions, answers, and other tips for
> Mac HOMM players.

Hey, it's me, that rogue guy.

I'm sure you all know about my site, since it looks like the whole player
list got the invitation, (and Nu mentioned my site - thanks!) but if
somebody doesn't, the URL is in my sig. (and we're always looking for input
and writing from other mac users)

Anyway, I had been thinking about starting a list like this myself, now I
don't have to. I can put some mention of this on my website if you
(moderator) would like. Just tell me what to write.

I am curious about a couple things. First, what kind of questions were you
asking that were getting removed? I've seen mac questions on there before
that haven't been removed. I even replied to one today that was posted on
June 1 about Mac OS X. I guess the "community" board is for talking about
gameplay issues, not system-specific technical issues.

Anyway, now we all have a nice mailing list to use. Anyone up for a game?
I'm free most nights around 8 or 9, Eastern Time (USA).  I'm on ICQ when I
am free to play. 4008277.

Also, the Poll should have had Heroes III Complete as an option, for I
believe it is vastly superior to Heroes III in many ways.

Good Day All,

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Heya HOMMers,

I'm always up for a game too, am most easily contacted by ICQ 10842226 whenever
I'm online.
I have Heroes II, III and the new Complete version.

Cheers
Matt

PS Rogue27 keeps an excellent Mac Heroes page at
http://strategyplanet.com/homm/mac/
Be sure to visit for the latest Mac Heroes news, as well as player lists and a
whole heap of stuff.

> Hello out there to all you Mac HOMM players!
>
> Just wanted to let you all know that anytime you'd like to play a
> game on the weekend, feel free to drop me a line... if I'm around,
> I'm always in the mood for a good game of Heroes III !

Hello out there to all you Mac HOMM players!

Just wanted to let you all know that anytime you'd like to play a
game on the weekend, feel free to drop me a line... if I'm around,
I'm always in the mood for a good game of Heroes III !

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