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Re: [gbadev] Nintendo's 4th Reich

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:07:28 -0000, you wrote:

>I am the author of Jetpack, and was looking into making it for the
>GBA. But after reading about Nintendo's exclusion of new developers,
>and dealing with their rude support people personally, I don't have
>any desire to work with Nintendo. Unfortunately you apparently have
>to be in bed with them to create anything for their system.
>I would like nothing more than to encourage a competitor to the GBA.
>Are there any in the works?

Jetpack ? the old speccy game from Rare/Ultimate ?

>If Nintendo has such a monopoly on this market as they appear to, how
>is it legal for them to decree who can make games for their system?
>Isn't this unfair abuse of monopoly power? Why isn't anyone
>complaining like they do about Microsoft?

Because they spent millions developing the console and
advertising it, and they don't want shit games on it to spoil it's
reputation.

>I think it's ridiculous that they can do this, and just as ridiculous
>that they get a cut from every game made for their platform. This is
>like intel getting a percentage for every program written for their
>chip - and worse, saying who can write what.

No it isn't, a chip isn't a complete system.

>This looks to me like a complete stranglehold on freedom of speech.

How so ? You didn't spend years developing the console, why
should you be allowed to use it to make a profit and not Nin ?

>Am I wrong?

Yes.

>How is this legal?

Simply, because when you develop for nintendo, you agree to it
!!! No-ones bending your arm behind your back making you develope for
it... If you don't want to... don't ! If you do, then you *will* have
to pay nintendo to use their console to sell your game. What's wrong
with that, it's the same for any console manufacturer ,
Sony/Sega/Nintendo/Microsoft *everyone* ! They're all expecting their
cut, because invariably they're selling the console at a loss..... Why
would they even bother to make it if they can't make any money from it
? They've spent millions making it.

Jay







Thu Nov 1, 2001 12:54 pm

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The quality control is for practical reasons. You can't patch a cartrige. Blocking small developers has nothing to do with this. I agree that N having the...
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Nov 1, 2001
3:39 pm

... Jetpack ? the old speccy game from Rare/Ultimate ? ... Because they spent millions developing the console and advertising it, and they don't want shit...
Jay
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Nov 1, 2001
1:18 pm

... Hash: SHA1 ... but he wouldnt be making profit off of the console. Just the game. So that argument makes no sense. And just because nintendo choose to sell...
Tom Badran
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Nov 1, 2001
1:47 pm

... It makes perfect sense, if nin hadn't spent a great deal of time and effort in making the console in the 1st place, what would people play his game on ? ...
Jay
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Nov 2, 2001
7:11 pm

Here's my quick take on it. The reason I'm writing this is because it seems fairly disturbing to me that a lot of people on this list feel that Nintendo has...
Dennis Munsie
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Hash: SHA1 ... Excluding patent issues of course. ... The only way nintendo can impose restricitions is if you sign something to that effect (i.e when you...
Tom Badran
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Nov 2, 2001
9:15 pm

... Indeed. But that case hasn't happened against Nintendo... yet ! ... But *isn't* this the crux of the matter, you need this logo to boot the cart, and thus...
Jay
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Nov 2, 2001
9:35 pm

... Agreed. ... Not if the design of the razor attachment it proprierty and copyright... then only they can make the razors to fit the handle ! ... Agreed. ......
Jay
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Nov 2, 2001
9:28 pm

Calm down man. It's a big bad world out there - deal with it. Nintendo create a market and (attempt) to control it. You either play by their rules or don't...
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I am dealing with it by exposing it and discussing it. Opinions can spread and have a huge impact even if we are never aware of it. You would have everyone...
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Nov 1, 2001
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<RANT> Jeez - enough already!!! Get that chip off your shoulder. With an attitude like this it's no wonder that Nintendo turned you down as a registered ...
Dave Mariner
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Nov 1, 2001
4:59 pm

Thanks for saying what a lot of the other guys think Dave! Deurk. [moderator note: i agree, take it off list. i'll no longer approve any messages on this...
Alexandre Nizoux
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Nov 1, 2001
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And all I'd say to that is, know your rights, and know the political climate. Right now, consumer rights are not up to snuff, and neither are developer...
Steve Latta
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Minor point, but the Codies case never actually made it to trial. At the 11th hour Codemasters were given permission to mfr the carts. This was done ...
Dave Mariner
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Nov 2, 2001
11:22 pm

Why wimp out and develop for the PC and give other corporations money (unless your developing for FreeBSD) hit them where it hurts, the wallet, develop good...
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Nov 2, 2001
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<My uninformed opinion> What if Hustler wanted to make a game for the GBA and include pornographic content? What if Camel wanted to produce a game about Camel...
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