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RE: [gbadev] Nintendo's 4th Reich

ive never had anyone complain that im using a 3rd party writable cart - why
would they? well, as long as when they boot it up it dosnt have a copy of
one of their games on it that is :0)

seriously - its no big deal. they're cheaper than the official carts and a
lot of companies use them. heck ive seen dev studios using modified action
replays to do psx work and Dr.64 junniors for n64 dev :) as long as you are
using it for legitimate purposes nobody is going to complain.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick London [mailto:nutzboy@...]
Sent: 31 October 2001 18:46
To: gbadev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [gbadev] Nintendo's 4th Reich


To the best of my knowledge on this, Nintendo cant do squat about you
developing for the platform. The can point and wave a nasty looking
finger... but that's about it.

Making your own carts and selling the games they CAN do something about,
because the GBA cart design is patented (To the best of my knowledge) and
you also have to have that Nintendo logo in the ROM for it to boot, which
is
copyrighted (Lets not get into a war about 'Cant copyright electronic
storage' shit).

BUT, if you REALLY want to get it publish, do what I'm doing, make an
impressive demo, write up a beefy lookin' design doc and plonk it on the
table of some developer/publisher. If they like what they see, they'll
publish it. (Just make sure you have copyright and stuff sorted out
beforehand... and make sure you dont give them any hard copies before a
contract has been signed)... or, if you show it to a publisher and they
want
you to develop it... they can actually ask Nintendo to give you developing
rights.

I've been out of the GBA community for a while, so this might have
changed,
but this was true as of about 3 or so months ago.

But I doubt Jetpack would go very far, mainly because it's only a port
(Correct?) of another game, and probably wont blow the socks off any
publishers.

Still, anything's worth a try. :)

But I'd say at very best you'd get hired into a development company for
showing your competence... and hey, that aint all bad. :)

Then just work your way up to game designer.

BTW: Does anyone know if anyone at trade shows/expos/developer conferences
have any problems with you using writable carts? AGDC (Australian Game
Developers Conference) is in a week and my company has a demo it wants to
show off. :)

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To the best of my knowledge on this, Nintendo cant do squat about you developing for the platform. The can point and wave a nasty looking finger... but that's...
Nick London
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Oct 31, 2001
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ive never had anyone complain that im using a 3rd party writable cart - why would they? well, as long as when they boot it up it dosnt have a copy of one of...
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Nov 1, 2001
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I should have the "right" to create a game without jumping through any damn hoops for Nintendo. If I know the profit from my work is getting leeched by a...
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Nov 1, 2001
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You should have the "right" to create a game without jumping through any damn hoops for Nintendo? Yeah, right. And I should have the right to play football...
Francis Lillie
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Nov 1, 2001
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Well, here in the United States, they claim to have a "Seperation Between Church and State" As a Southern Baptist I sometimes find this troublesome. Anyway,...
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Oct 31, 2001
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... this is exactly the best way to go about it. rather that complain that the big N is mean and blah blah blah, put your nose to the grindstone and make a...
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Nov 1, 2001
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If I wanted to work for a GBA dev team right now I would. I can write Jetpack GBA myself so why should I have to join a big company and share the profits,...
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Thats almost exactly how i feel. LOL ... From: The Blue Hippo To: gbadev@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [gbadev] Re:...
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Nov 1, 2001
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Virtually all console producers follow this route ( I know of none that dont ), it allows a level of quality control completely unavailable on the pc, one of...
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Nov 1, 2001
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... are ... LOL - did you guys also hide them all when N or Sony did a tour of the offices?? A couple of lurkers on the list will remember doing this!! Dave...
Dave Mariner
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Nov 1, 2001
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I believe that the sole reason is money. Although the software released for the GBA is fairly bug free, the quality of the majority of games released to date...
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Nov 1, 2001
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The quality control is for practical reasons. You can't patch a cartrige. Blocking small developers has nothing to do with this. I agree that N having the...
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Nov 1, 2001
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... Jetpack ? the old speccy game from Rare/Ultimate ? ... Because they spent millions developing the console and advertising it, and they don't want shit...
Jay
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Nov 1, 2001
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... Hash: SHA1 ... but he wouldnt be making profit off of the console. Just the game. So that argument makes no sense. And just because nintendo choose to sell...
Tom Badran
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Nov 1, 2001
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... It makes perfect sense, if nin hadn't spent a great deal of time and effort in making the console in the 1st place, what would people play his game on ? ...
Jay
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Nov 2, 2001
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Here's my quick take on it. The reason I'm writing this is because it seems fairly disturbing to me that a lot of people on this list feel that Nintendo has...
Dennis Munsie
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Hash: SHA1 ... Excluding patent issues of course. ... The only way nintendo can impose restricitions is if you sign something to that effect (i.e when you...
Tom Badran
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Indeed. But that case hasn't happened against Nintendo... yet ! ... But *isn't* this the crux of the matter, you need this logo to boot the cart, and thus...
Jay
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Agreed. ... Not if the design of the razor attachment it proprierty and copyright... then only they can make the razors to fit the handle ! ... Agreed. ......
Jay
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Nov 2, 2001
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Calm down man. It's a big bad world out there - deal with it. Nintendo create a market and (attempt) to control it. You either play by their rules or don't...
John Pickford
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I am dealing with it by exposing it and discussing it. Opinions can spread and have a huge impact even if we are never aware of it. You would have everyone...
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<RANT> Jeez - enough already!!! Get that chip off your shoulder. With an attitude like this it's no wonder that Nintendo turned you down as a registered ...
Dave Mariner
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Nov 1, 2001
4:59 pm

Thanks for saying what a lot of the other guys think Dave! Deurk. [moderator note: i agree, take it off list. i'll no longer approve any messages on this...
Alexandre Nizoux
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Nov 1, 2001
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And all I'd say to that is, know your rights, and know the political climate. Right now, consumer rights are not up to snuff, and neither are developer...
Steve Latta
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Minor point, but the Codies case never actually made it to trial. At the 11th hour Codemasters were given permission to mfr the carts. This was done ...
Dave Mariner
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Nov 2, 2001
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Why wimp out and develop for the PC and give other corporations money (unless your developing for FreeBSD) hit them where it hurts, the wallet, develop good...
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Nov 2, 2001
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<My uninformed opinion> What if Hustler wanted to make a game for the GBA and include pornographic content? What if Camel wanted to produce a game about Camel...
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