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Re: [gbadev] Re: e-Reader dissection

On Thursday 02 October 2003 12:09, Ped wrote:
> The e-reader itself can't have too much DPI IMHO, it has to
> be cheap? Or not?

I was thinking more along the lines of cheap inkjets not
producing enough contrast at the edge of the dots. I actually
have no idea how 2-dimensional barcode scanners work (apart from
the kind that acquires the whole image at once and analyses it
in software, like that 2D-barcode-based "color fax" software
someone was selling about 6 or 7 years ago.)

It also struck me that perhaps no one was able to get the cards
to swipe because (a) the barcode is actually done in MICR
(magnetic ink like the numbers at the bottom of checks) or (b)
there's an embedded magstrip or RFID tag or something in the
card. Of course, either of those situations would be pretty
easy to discover if someone actually sacrificed an e-reader and
dissected it, but I haven't seen anything like that on the web
to date.

By the way, the creation of any program that encodes or decodes
the barcodes will probably need to be done outside the US, due
to the DMCA. The makers of that Cuecat barcode scanner claimed
that their nearly standard barcode encoding was an effective
access control mechanism, so Nintendo certainly could do so,
especially if the resulting data stream has encryption that
needs breaking.

Rob





Fri Oct 3, 2003 4:00 pm

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(just few personal opinion notes on e-reader, no facts) ... The e-reader itself can't have too much DPI IMHO, it has to be cheap? Or not? ... Why on the fly?...
Ped
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Oct 3, 2003
3:47 pm

... I was thinking more along the lines of cheap inkjets not producing enough contrast at the edge of the dots. I actually have no idea how 2-dimensional...
Rob Kudla
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Oct 4, 2003
11:59 am

... The best I have had with trying to print, was a read error, meaning some of the codes were scannable in the e-reader, and some of them were not. If only...
caitsith6502
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Oct 5, 2003
8:41 pm

... DMCA ?! *evil laughter* ... whatever you do, i'd start with looking at US patents - the barcode N uses for gamecube disc authentification is patented and...
Groepaz
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Oct 5, 2003
10:21 pm

... From all the dot code related patents I have looked at so far (~30), the most interesting one is US patent 6116507. Search on ...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Oct 5, 2003
10:52 pm

... mmmh there was also a simelar site for european and japan patents... (google should find it for you :=P). didnt have much luck there previously either, but...
Groepaz
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Oct 5, 2003
11:06 pm

If print quality is a problem then write a program to generate the output to a tiff file. The file can then be taken a professional graphic arts shop and they...
Daniel
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Oct 3, 2003
1:31 pm

Here's how to e-reader works for the most part. After plugging the E-Reader into the GBA as if it were a cartridge, turn on your GBA. Then you'll go into some...
pkmndata
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Oct 4, 2003
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I got a package fro ups the other day which has a small label that looks just like the code on an e-reader card (Not the usual clustered mess of a label). ...
webmaster
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Oct 4, 2003
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It would probably be much easier to just disassemble the e-reader rom to find out exactly how it works. I'm assuming this would be much easier than staring at...
TJ
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Oct 4, 2003
9:06 pm

I tried to decipher the e-Reader dotcodes last year by staring at the dots but had to give up, all those dots were starting to give me a headache :/ Here is a...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Oct 5, 2003
12:54 pm

... the dots ... headache :/ ... the dotcode ... Maybe you could write something to output a higher quality error free dot code image, that might actually...
caitsith6502
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Oct 5, 2003
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... An error free dot code image? You mean something like http://users.skynet.be/firefly/gba/e-reader/slp100.bmp :) Btw, I printed it on a label using my Seiko...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Oct 8, 2003
2:47 pm

Sunday, September 28, 2003, 9:44:04 AM, you wrote: DA> I posted some time ago regarding need for an e-Reader dissection. All DA> the leads that turned up as a...
Leonid Zaprudsky
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Oct 8, 2003
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That might have something to do with the fact that the dot code is 360 dpi ... -Stephen ... From: "Tim Schuerewegen" <Tim.Schuerewegen@...> To:...
Stephen Stair
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Oct 8, 2003
6:26 pm

Pretty much. The dots should have some white space between them. Also, can you provide me that same image, but in 1200 DPI, length = 7.3cm, width = 0.3cm?...
Damien Good
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Oct 8, 2003
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that image is dot-accurate :) you can easily do image processing on it to attain the correct size. -Stephen ... From: "Damien Good" <d_good@...> To:...
Stephen Stair
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Oct 9, 2003
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Still no luck in getting a successful printout. ... From: "Stephen Stair" <sgstair@...> To: <gbadev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October...
Damien Good
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Oct 9, 2003
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Me either... I compared the printout of mine to another dot code though, and see it's a little bit smaller... I wonder if maybe it's not 360dpi (As I suspect),...
Stephen Stair
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Oct 10, 2003
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... I had to print it at 344dpi on my HP DeskJet 3650 (brand new) to get the correct size. Tim...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Oct 11, 2003
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Did the printout scan and work? ... 3650 (brand new) to get the...
Daniel
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Oct 11, 2003
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... No, it did not. I guess the 203 DPI dotcode was too large for the e-Reader because the quality was perfect. Now some good news ... I bought a HP DeskJet...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Oct 12, 2003
9:05 pm

Well as I said I would here is my effort to stimulate our efferts to understand how to use the e-Reader to 'play our code'.. A cash prize is now offered for...
Daniel
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Oct 12, 2003
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Cool Tim, keep up the good work. Did you see that website posted in the previous topic? They're offering 300 big ones ($300) to anyone who can figure out how...
pkmndata
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Oct 13, 2003
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... Pfff.. I'm doing this just for fun, not for the money, have plenty of that already. However, still great for someone to offer that money....
Tim Schuerewegen
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Oct 14, 2003
2:25 pm

http://www.alpha-ii.com/caitsith2/ereader/dot-code%20block.jpg - explanation on how the raw data is stored in the dotcode blocks in the strip. Now, the only...
Damien Good
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Dec 31, 2003
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I just released a bit of e-reader information too, including a dotcode printing tool (some ppl already have it), more to follow soon... ...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Jan 1, 2004
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Sgstair was telling me that they have downloaded the code and are looking at it. He can tell you how to access that data.. ... From: "Damien Good"...
Daniel
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Dec 31, 2003
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"they"? "code"? "data"? ... From: Daniel [mailto:webmaster@...] Sent: woensdag 31 december 2003 16:30 To: gbadev@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:...
Tim Schuerewegen
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Jan 1, 2004
11:07 am

more e-reader info at http://www.alpha-ii.com/caitsith2/ereader the released bin/raw data of the e-reader cards might cause controversy, but at the same time,...
Damien Good
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Jan 1, 2004
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