RE: [gbadev] Re: To all unpublished developers - You may find this very interesting...
> Unless they are into hacking Electronics etc
> (and that's not impossible for any HW)
Not impossible? Bull. Semiconductor devices *can* be made effectively
tamper-proof, that is, by the time it's cracked, the information has
negligible market value. For instance, Capcom CPS-2 ROMs are encrypted
with a secret algorithm and a secret key, and when the decryption chip
is tampered with, it commits Capcom Suicide. http://cps2shock.retrogames.com/suicide.html
Opps , mis read my comment , was ment to mean , not-impossible i.e can
be done but takes some a very talented engineer
... Making sure memory isn't rewritable would be much easier with a write-once memory technology (such as blown-fuse PROM) than with a key-based system. ... ...
... Not impossible? Bull. Semiconductor devices *can* be made effectively tamper-proof, that is, by the time it's cracked, the information has negligible...
Chris White
kisyfier@...
Jun 1, 2002 12:02 pm
Chris, I get the feeling that I have not communicated well what exactly this product will be. Let me try to clarify... Okay, the RAM cartridge is what the...
Cheers , much clearer , me and wrong end of stick (again :)) , but like everyone is saying ,if ID is inside HEX then its easily hackable C Chris, I get the...
Chris White
kisyfier@...
Jun 1, 2002 12:02 pm
just as a slight aside to this - ive been doing a couple of games that use eeprom for backup memory and they don't work on visoly carts - now, I was pretty...
Hello bryanedds, Saturday, June 01, 2002, 5:14:32 AM, you wrote: b> Chris, I get the feeling that I have not communicated well what b> exactly this product...
How about a petition to Visoly to show them how interested we are in this product? Right now it's still in the air whether they will start production or not....
... takes about 10 minutes to be cracked ... at the max ......
Markus
markus@...
Jun 1, 2002 1:03 pm
Depending on the implementation of the copy protection scheme, it could takes from 10 minutes to hack (as you said) to months, to possibly never (if there's...
Only the 256Mbit cart supports flash, eeprom, sram ... From: Neil Holmes To: gbadev@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 7:29 AM Subject: RE: [gbadev]...
... As someone who remembers getting cracked copies of games without their cutscenes as a kid (yeah, yeah, I stopped a few years ago, and have since paid for...
... That would be *sick*. How much would it cost to amateur assemble? Can they be made with mostly off-the-shelf parts? Will someone need to solder (a ...
... How much would the Visoly flash carts cost to amateur assemble? I wasn't considering amateur assembly; I was considering having some manufacturer make it....
This sounds pretty cool -- here's my ideas as well - the device should plug into the cart port, and have a passthrough for both carts and link port. - assuming...
There was special hardware that ppl made to load onto the famicon disks just like they loaded the roms onto them at a software store. in fact some software...
... good protection! and as soon as someone comes up with a way to make new protection it will be counteracted asap and can probably be dealt with in less time...
That's a joke. Just look at how the new copy protection on the CDs was broken... It took them over a year to make it and they pirated the CDs before they even...
... It can be prolonged. I'm with the list in that I feel that a serial ID system will only work for games which are low-profile enough to not get cracking...
... there's nothing that wont get pirated. people even pirate US $5 shareware tools. and if the games are low-profile enough to not get cracking attention ...
Markus
markus@...
Jun 2, 2002 9:38 pm
... Though I could be in error, I believe that the Visoly carts do not support EEPROM data. I originally tried to gack the Mario combo game when I first got...
As usual, i feel the urge to step in and act as the pessimistic old fart that i am :). One thing that a lot of people in here seem to forget, is the fact that...
Thomas Nielsen [Lifto...
thomasn@...
Jun 3, 2002 12:18 pm
Personally, I think the reason that most homedev is crap is because there is no promising monetary motivation for devr's. If people were actually able to make...
... I disagree. I think that the motivation for homebrew developers is better than money: it's that they want to create something and show off what they made....
... The United States has anti-trust legislation. ... But OSDN does. If you get your product mentioned on Slashdot, you'll get mindshare, and from mindshare...
... fart that i am :). ... that you need to actually SELL your games. Developing and physically getting cartridges done is the easy part - selling is the hard...
... that i am :). ... neccessary to invest into doing proper games. Since games wont sell, naturally noone will invest in doing them. And no, you CANT do...
Lanza
lanza@...
Jun 3, 2002 3:52 pm
I get the impression people think that official carts are write once carts. Not so. The big N does NOT burn all those carts on machines that they won't let us...
Joe Sengir
jsengir@...
Jun 3, 2002 6:32 pm
You're forgetting.... a lot of the stuff out there for any platform that are 'proper' games is crap too! I won't name names to offend anyone on the list that...
... Actually, I think Mario Kart Advance (called Super Circuit in the states) has quite good control, but the "Boo Lake" and "Ghost Valley" courses are way too...
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