As "insidious_plots" can tell you, it took me a while to be able to
use Dreamkey on Dreamcast and I couldn't figure out why.  It's now
been a while since I solved the problem, and I thought I would tell
you the details before I completely forget what the problem was.

I couldn't use Dreamkey for a while.  What would happen is when I
tried to connect, the screen would freeze there and I could not back
out and choose "cancel".  However I could use Planetweb.  Any
version.  I was using 2.6.  Often I would notice that the dial
option in PW was set to 'pulse' even though I always selected 'tone'
and saved it as that.  I never ever changed it except for having to
change it BACK to tone over and over again.  Somehow, PW ver 2.6 was
auto-saving the option as 'pulse' and I can probably safely assume
that was not compatible with Dreamkey.

Once I tried PW ver 2.0 to set the options and saved them, Dreamkey
worked.  And now it will only not work if the ISP is dead, in which
case PW will also not work until I enter correct info.  I don't know
if this happens on purpose because PW doesn't want you to use DK,
nor do I even know if it happens to anyone else!  All I know is I
never use PW 2.6.

So if you don't get this problem, cool, you can use PW 2.6 and the
other features it has.  But if you can't use Dreamkey, one of the
superior browsers to PW, check to see if PW 2.6 has the dial setting
set to 'pulse'.  It has to be set to 'tone'.  And for me, only PW
2.0 and earlier will assure that TONE stays saved.

But please inform me if this does or does not happen to you!  I hope
my info is useful to you, because it caused me several weeks or more
(I THINK) of aggrivation, and I don't want someone else to
experience that.

Good day.

-Nadine

Unfortunately, you forgot all about the left and right trigger
menus, and what each thing in the menu does, including how to set up
Dreamkey's options.

Might want to update this...  ;P

-Nadine


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "christopher and mary"
<insidious_plots@D...> wrote:
>
> ---- DreamKey v1 ----
>
>
> --- KEYBOARD ---
>
> cntrl+O --- URL Bar ("Jump Box")
>
> Esc ---  same thing as "stop"
>
> F5 ---  reload page  (in other words, it downloads a
>  new copy of the document from the server)
>
> shift+arrow key --- highlight text
> cntrl+A ---  highlight All text
> cntrl+C ---  copy highlighted text to clipboard
> cntrl+V ---  paste contents of clipboard
> cntrl+X ---  delete highlighted text and save to cli
> pboard
> (note that you can only c/c/p in a text box...  any
> place where your cursor turns into a pencil is a tex
> t box,,,)
>
> cntrl+M ---  go to mail program
>
> cntrl+H ---  history  (all the sites you have visite
> d, very handy for navigation...  when you log off, y
> ou can still go to any page in your history, too...)
>
> cntrl+B ---  open bookmarks
> cntrl+D ---  bookmark current page  (remember, it wi
> ll not remind you to save them like planetweb, so do
> n't forget)
>
> Home --- moves page to the left
> End --- moves page to the right
>
>
> ---CONTROLLER---
>
> To enable hidden controller commands:
> Hold A and press 'start' 10 times
>
> then, you have the following commands:
>
> B+Start --- Bookmarks
> Y+Start --- History
> X+Start --- Connect
>
> put the pointer on the status bar at the bottom of t
> he screen, and then...
> X+A --- URL Bar ("Jump Box")
>
> and, these are the regular commands:
>
> B --- usually does the same thing as escape
>
> X+left ---  go back one page
> X+right --- go forward one page  (after you have gon
> e back)
> (remember, these can be used in somewhat rapid succe
> ssion...  so hold X and click left three times to go
>  back 3 pages)
>
> X+up ---  go to top of page
> X+down ---  go to bottom of page
>
> X+A ---  when your cursor is on an image, it will sa
> ve the image to a memory card...
>
> stick ---  move cursor
> d-pad ---  move page
> (that is the configuration i prefer)
>
>
> i think that is pretty much it...
>
> except maybe cntrl+alt+delete to soft reset...

---re u from Brasil to? if yes, send me an email. i can help... In
DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "gostosinha_1999" <outlander@s...> wrote:
> Hi, i need know where i could find  Dreamcast Webrowser Dreamkey
> v.3.0 USA version? i need this program, please,help me, i tried
> kazzaa but it is impossible!
> thanks in advance
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> > Well I had a friend of mine whip up a login for DK (he's infamous
> here at DCBG) B-cuz of that very same problem I had (I use DK too).
> The URL is:
> >
> > http://dc-sg.tripod.com/dkyahoologin.html
> >
> > It will log you in to yahoo mail or to DC-SG (Dreamcast Survivors
> Group). Once you login in you can hit  "my groups" and go to all of
> your groups including DCBG.
> >
> > I know it's a lil late but I hope that helps... :)
> >
> > -- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "niec25" <niec25@y...> wrote:
> > > I tried logging in with my dreamkey to the link in the main page
> but it just links to the real yahoo page & not that one that would
> let you log on with a Dreamkey?
> > >
> > > is that link broken for good or has it been fixed?

Hi, i need know where i could find  Dreamcast Webrowser Dreamkey
v.3.0 USA version? i need this program, please,help me, i tried
kazzaa but it is impossible!
thanks in advance


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> Well I had a friend of mine whip up a login for DK (he's infamous
here at DCBG) B-cuz of that very same problem I had (I use DK too).
The URL is:
>
> http://dc-sg.tripod.com/dkyahoologin.html
>
> It will log you in to yahoo mail or to DC-SG (Dreamcast Survivors
Group). Once you login in you can hit  "my groups" and go to all of
your groups including DCBG.
>
> I know it's a lil late but I hope that helps... :)
>
> -- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "niec25" <niec25@y...> wrote:
> > I tried logging in with my dreamkey to the link in the main page
but it just links to the real yahoo page & not that one that would
let you log on with a Dreamkey?
> >
> > is that link broken for good or has it been fixed?

What games do you have?  Do you have Chu Chu Rocket? Jet Grind
Radio?  Sonic Adventure 2?  Phantasy Star Online or ver 2?  Crazy
Taxi 2?   There are others as well... if you have these games you
already have Dreamkey.  Read in the FAQs and Guides, there's
articles about this.

Believe me, Dreamkey is WAY better and easier to use.  You only need
Planetweb for imputting your ISP info, and maybe it has some other
uses.  But Dreamkey is way better, and I haven't even tried
DreamPassport which is I've heard the best one.

-Nadine


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "micheal_1979_2000"
<Mandy7amanda@a...> wrote:
> Im still running Planetweb 2.6 for web access on my DC, can this
Dreamkey be downloaded or bought somewhere? Or can someone with a
extra copy send it to me snail mail?

Im still running Planetweb 2.6 for web access on my DC, can this Dreamkey be
downloaded or bought somewhere? Or can someone with a extra copy send it to me
snail mail?

hi,

> That's all I have to do is plug my Broadband Adapter into the cable
> modem?  Will my ISP sense that I have another PC connected to it?  I
> have a network at home so the PCs can use the cable modem, but I
> just want to make sure my Dreamcast can remain hidden so I don't get
> charged an extra fee.

if your cable modem has multiple ports or you are plugging an ethernet
hub into the modem
and plugging your pc's into that then your ISP can work out how many
physical devices are
connected to your LAN since they can detect the MAC addresses (hardware
address) of
eash ethernet card. to get round this you need a proxy in between your
LAN and modem
or a router that is also IP masquerading which gives the impression that
only one device is
connected. i run the smoothwall linux dist (www.smoothwall.org) on a an
old pc with two
ethernet cards to do this.

> I wonder if the Broadband adapter works with Dreamkey?  I only have
> BMO as an online game, and it supports the BBA, but I wonder how
> expensive this thing is and is it worth it?

i'm using the japanese DreamPassport for web browsing since this
supports the LAN adapter.
newer DreamKeys do support the BBA. getting hold of a BBA isn't cheap
unfortunately,
though i think in 4Q this year there's going to be another production
run of them? should bring
the price down. i just paid 30UKP for my LAN adapter from ebay.

pete

That's all I have to do is plug my Broadband Adapter into the cable
modem?  Will my ISP sense that I have another PC connected to it?  I
have a network at home so the PCs can use the cable modem, but I
just want to make sure my Dreamcast can remain hidden so I don't get
charged an extra fee.

I wonder if the Broadband adapter works with Dreamkey?  I only have
BMO as an online game, and it supports the BBA, but I wonder how
expensive this thing is and is it worth it?

-Nadine


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., Pete Backhouse <Pete@S...> wrote:
> definately get one if you can. i've just bought a LAN adapter
which is
> only 10 not 10/100 though still pretty cool. not sure which games
are
> compatible with the BBA though i know that the LanA isn't
compatible
> with any games. i have my LanA plugged into an ethernet hub that
then
> routes through a linux box connected to ADSL. if you have a cable
modem
> you can just plug the BBA into it.
>
> pete
>
> rkpellagirl wrote:
>
> >  Where can I find info about it?  How does it work?  Will it use
my
> > existing cable ISP that my PC uses or something?  How many online
> > games are compatible with it?  Can I use it just for serving -
like
> > on Dreamkey?
> >
> > Any and all info on the Broadband adapter.  Where?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
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> >
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definately get one if you can. i've just bought a LAN adapter which is
only 10 not 10/100 though still pretty cool. not sure which games are
compatible with the BBA though i know that the LanA isn't compatible
with any games. i have my LanA plugged into an ethernet hub that then
routes through a linux box connected to ADSL. if you have a cable modem
you can just plug the BBA into it.

pete

rkpellagirl wrote:

>  Where can I find info about it?  How does it work?  Will it use my
> existing cable ISP that my PC uses or something?  How many online
> games are compatible with it?  Can I use it just for serving - like
> on Dreamkey?
>
> Any and all info on the Broadband adapter.  Where?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> If you use a Dreamcast for the Internet/Web,
> make sure to take some time to explore all
> of the resources available at the group site
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>     information you will not find elsewhere
>
>     http://links.DreamcastBrowsers.cjb.net
> the most comprehensive collection on the Web
>
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>      user information, not opinion surveys
>
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Every expert in this group agree that the unlocked version of DK is the one
that's included in Chu Chu Rocket, but i don't see any diference from the others
(Sega Gt, Pso). Could anybody please tell me what the diferences are ?, maybe
i'm using another version of Chu Chu , or, are you talking about an import
version of Chu Chu.


Thanks

Where can I find info about it?  How does it work?  Will it use my
existing cable ISP that my PC uses or something?  How many online
games are compatible with it?  Can I use it just for serving - like
on Dreamkey?

Any and all info on the Broadband adapter.  Where?

Thanks.

--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "khnc5" <vgskarl@h...> wrote:
> Is that when you usually play? I'm on EST which is 3
> hours ahead of you so 12-3 for you is 3am-6am for me. :(


Hmm.  That's what I figured.  Maybe I'M just not going on at good
times.  The times I go on, across many different time zones is still
sleeping hours for people.  Maybe we can work out something
different then.  But right now, those are the only times I can get
on when the phone is not busy.  UNLESS, I can get up early.  But I'm
so lazy it's hard to get up before noon.

Anyone who can play post here and maybe we can figure out
something.  For example, I may get lucky and be able to wake up
earlier, or be able to play at night before 12AM PST.

And it's my friend's birthday soon.  She has a Dreamcast and has
never gone online on it.  I'm gonna set her up, and the gift I
bought her is BMO so we can play together.  But it wasn't a cheap
gift (cheap for a game, but not cheap still), that's exactly why she
didn't want to get it.  Hmm.  Guess I'll have to get her a real
cheap Christmas gift then.

-Nadine





> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "rkpellagirl" <rkpellagirl@y...>
wrote:
> > No, there's hardly ever anyone on!  That's the problem.  There
are
> > still people who play it, but they don't go on at the same
times,
> > and often quit when they find the servers empty.  So I'm trying
to
> > get things organised.  Anyone here who plays this game or wants
to
> > play, say when you can be on.  We have to get together at
similar
> > times.  Also, if you don't already know, many SegaNet servers,
> > including Bomberman's are FREE.  But they are closing them down
> > forever at the end of the year.  Play while you can!
> >
> > I have been having some luck lately at night after 12AM PST.
You
> > may find me on between 12 - 3 somenights.  It just depends if
the
> > phone is busy then (it SHOULDN'T be, but my teen brothers talk
to
> > their friends at ANY time).  I'm atomicpunk, but I may change my
> > name sometimes to better suit the character I chose.  For
example,
> > in my new wolf outfit, I rather call myself "bomberwolf" if that
> > fits.
> >
> > -Nadine
> >
> >
> > -- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., vgskarl@h... wrote:
> > >
> > > Never tried it online yet is there people on the
> > > servers much?  I'll give it a try one night.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > If anybody is here right now and has BMO, wanna pl
> > > ay right now?  I'm "atomicpunk".
> > > > For future reference, when do you guys play it or
> > > do you?  I try to get on at nights when the phone ii
> > > s not tied up.
> > > >
> > > > Come and play BMO!
> > > >
> > > > -Nadine
> > > > "atomicpunk"
> > > >
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where can i download the new Dreampassport 3 DreamKey3 or WebBrowser3?
I mean as i image(self-booted) or just the plain files.....




I need it badly.'Cause i live in greece and dreamkey1.5 doesn't
support my country and webbrowser2.6 isn't so good.

Is that when you usually play? I'm on EST which is 3
hours ahead of you so 12-3 for you is 3am-6am for me. :(




--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "rkpellagirl" <rkpellagirl@y...> wrote:
> No, there's hardly ever anyone on!  That's the problem.  There are
> still people who play it, but they don't go on at the same times,
> and often quit when they find the servers empty.  So I'm trying to
> get things organised.  Anyone here who plays this game or wants to
> play, say when you can be on.  We have to get together at similar
> times.  Also, if you don't already know, many SegaNet servers,
> including Bomberman's are FREE.  But they are closing them down
> forever at the end of the year.  Play while you can!
>
> I have been having some luck lately at night after 12AM PST.  You
> may find me on between 12 - 3 somenights.  It just depends if the
> phone is busy then (it SHOULDN'T be, but my teen brothers talk to
> their friends at ANY time).  I'm atomicpunk, but I may change my
> name sometimes to better suit the character I chose.  For example,
> in my new wolf outfit, I rather call myself "bomberwolf" if that
> fits.
>
> -Nadine
>
>
> -- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., vgskarl@h... wrote:
> >
> > Never tried it online yet is there people on the
> > servers much?  I'll give it a try one night.
> >
> >
> >
> > > If anybody is here right now and has BMO, wanna pl
> > ay right now?  I'm "atomicpunk".
> > > For future reference, when do you guys play it or
> > do you?  I try to get on at nights when the phone ii
> > s not tied up.
> > >
> > > Come and play BMO!
> > >
> > > -Nadine
> > > "atomicpunk"
> > >
> > >
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> > >  make sure to take some time to explore all
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> > >
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No, there's hardly ever anyone on!  That's the problem.  There are
still people who play it, but they don't go on at the same times,
and often quit when they find the servers empty.  So I'm trying to
get things organised.  Anyone here who plays this game or wants to
play, say when you can be on.  We have to get together at similar
times.  Also, if you don't already know, many SegaNet servers,
including Bomberman's are FREE.  But they are closing them down
forever at the end of the year.  Play while you can!

I have been having some luck lately at night after 12AM PST.  You
may find me on between 12 - 3 somenights.  It just depends if the
phone is busy then (it SHOULDN'T be, but my teen brothers talk to
their friends at ANY time).  I'm atomicpunk, but I may change my
name sometimes to better suit the character I chose.  For example,
in my new wolf outfit, I rather call myself "bomberwolf" if that
fits.

-Nadine


-- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., vgskarl@h... wrote:
>
> Never tried it online yet is there people on the
> servers much?  I'll give it a try one night.
>
>
>
> > If anybody is here right now and has BMO, wanna pl
> ay right now?  I'm "atomicpunk".
> > For future reference, when do you guys play it or
> do you?  I try to get on at nights when the phone ii
> s not tied up.
> >
> > Come and play BMO!
> >
> > -Nadine
> > "atomicpunk"
> >
> >
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> >
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> __
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> >  make sure to take some time to explore all
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> >
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> >
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Hey, so I guess sega net will be free for the rest of it's duration here on
earth. Good for us... But bad for DC :'( ....

Dear DCBG

As requested, please find
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Best regards

The Web2Mail team

Never tried it online yet is there people on the
servers much?  I'll give it a try one night.



> If anybody is here right now and has BMO, wanna pl
ay right now?  I'm "atomicpunk".
> For future reference, when do you guys play it or
do you?  I try to get on at nights when the phone ii
s not tied up.
>
> Come and play BMO!
>
> -Nadine
> "atomicpunk"
>
>
> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---
>
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__
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>     information you will not find elsewhere
>
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If anybody is here right now and has BMO, wanna play right now?  I'm
"atomicpunk".
For future reference, when do you guys play it or do you?  I try to get on at
nights when the phone iis not tied up.

Come and play BMO!

-Nadine
"atomicpunk"

Alien Front Online has been taken down for good
and the other Sega online games are on borrowed
time maybe two months or so....I never could find
a server on NFL2K1 so maybe just the 2K2 servers
are going




--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., MR DREAMWAVES <ayeshe@y...> wrote:
> hi
> whenever i get online playing nba2k1 or unreal tournament
> cant find server is there a period of time to get online?
> anyone knows what about alien front online?
>
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hi
whenever i get online playing nba2k1 or unreal tournament
cant find server is there a period of time to get online?
anyone knows what about alien front online?

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this sums it up nicely.....

Look can we move along it's aparent you are making this seem like it's nothing
to you but pushing it along like it's a mountain.

Sorry the i_p URL was your DK login when I came across it here as the DK yahoo
login and it was changed (obviously b-cuz it's i_p's web space) and that's when
I pulled out my hack of it I never said sh*t at the group until I saw a post
from someone else, you keep forgetting that when you quote my posts. It was a
concern of mine when I and others wanted to start a group we didn't want to
leave out DK users and we didn't want to take someone else's login tool. "We" is
basicaly me doing that foot work.

I was only addressing a post here (DCBG) b-cuz the DK login I had bookmarked (a
year ago) pulled a U turn on me and it (the post) caught my eye so I posted
where a remedy could be found if the problem was still about (I didn't know a
file at DCBG for the login had been created...duh...). No conspiracies or ill
feelings towards DCBG (of which I'm a member too!!!!!!!!!!). I didn't get sh*ty
about it until you (i_p) came in w/ yer snooby attitude about how all was grand
w/ the "F"in' DK login. For some of us it was a different thing (where the URL
we had Boookmarked led our lil cyber feet. BTW when's the last time you looked
at a URL in yer BM's from a year ago to know if it were i_p's or DCBG's URL? all
you'd know is if it hit or didn't hit, that's why I've been using my own hack
and by passed the URL i had originaly and said nothing........until the post
from someone else *F*). Good for you and yer web space, sh*t it was a stupid
login!!!!!!!!! And a RE: to a post !!!!!!!!!!! Let's move on now!!!!!!!

Obviously this will be something to look back on and say ??????????HUH?????????

I still think you ripped me i_p. But what the "F" right???

--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:

> http://geocities.com/insidious_plots/dcbg/dkyahoologin.html

yup, that is my webspace...  the "insidious_plots" could be said to be a
giveaway...
that is the directory that has been used to keep things handy for testing and
other purposes in this group for a very long time...
once things are finished up, they are moved to a more official place...  in this
particular case, the link on the group front page makes it fairly obvious which
one is intended for use...

and yes, many things have been moved and changed at my personal webspace te last
few months for a variety of reasons...
if it was a website, i might feel obligated to make annoncements about it...
it is not...  it is just a personal webspace directory that you found something
useful in...
that is the way personal webspace goes...  when you just find something in
someone's directory instead of on an actual website, you never know what will
become of it...
i have noted in my logs that some people still link to files in my webspace for
some reason, so, some files there i have replaced with a warning before i delete
them completely...


> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DreamcastBrowsers/files/dkyahoologin.html

yes...  "DreamcastBrowsers" in the files section...  handy place for it since
the group is no one's property, no one uses the files section for anything and
you know where it will be at any given time...


> Oh that's about 25 pages w/ a login that benefited this group That I have to
fix now.

again, linking to something in someone's personal directory and thinking it
would always be there was your first mistake...

no url was changed...
you simply linked to the wrong one...

--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> Look I never said it was a conspiracy or anything so let me elaborate.

your statement in your post said you assumed that something was done to try to
keep the script a dcbg exclusive...


> Now about the DK login, A while back I dunno maybe 3 weeks ago when
> you hit the DK yahoo login from your bookmarks or from somewhere like
> let's say another site other than DCBG you were takin to a page  w/ a
> link that said to login at DCBG.

sounds to me like you were linking to the test version of the login script in my
personal webspace instead the actual completed file which has been housed here
at the dcbg for quite some time...
recently, i have changed aot of things in my webspace...
since just about everything the dcbg needs is housed here, there is no reason
people should be linking to files in my personal webspace...
if you did this, i have no control over what problems you may enconter...


so I
> and other DK users wouldn't have to come to DCBG to use the DK yahoo
> login.

again, a vmu-based version has been lomg available or can be easily made by just
about anyone now, so, i am not sure why anyone would have to rely on a web-based
version, no matter where it is housed...


> I erased the JS in it that let it be tracked and so
> forth.

tracking javascript?
the file has no tracker in it...
if it did, it i because you copied it from my space, which is on geocities, and
geocities uses a tracker javascript-based cookie script...

once again, the whole mess could have been avoided by going to the actual
completed file, not the test model on my webspace...


> I'll give you this much OK. I'm a bastard b-cuz all these ppl here do
> all this work for DC browsing and I come along and reseach and
> bookmark (and rape and pilage your knowledge for days) for later and
> so on and so forth. And then I contribute nothing but my mesly like 6
> posts most of which are all about this DK thing.
>
> Well I'm sorry I use all the resouces here to often to split and
> sometimes I want to post about things I find interesting (which is
> seldom).

and this line of reasoning is just absurd...
of the countless people who have used the resources at this group in it's
various incarnations for over a year and a half, very few have contributed
anything...  members and non-members alike...

great things have come from non-members and many members have never had anything
to add...
whether or not someone has anything to contribute is a total non-issue...
if it was, we would not leave this place open to the public, now would we?

And I just remembered I've had the script
bookmarked for almost a year....I checked it and it
takes you directly to the DK/Yahoo sign in so I'm not
quite sure where your coming from here.....





--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "khnc5" <vgskarl@h...> wrote:
> I have to admit I'm a little confused by all the fuss here. The first link
simply redirects traffic to the DCBG and the DK log-in. Since it's i_p's web
site I'm unclear why this would be a problem. Once someone gains access to the
script they can simply bookmark it if they no longer wish to visit the DCBG
homepage. As previously mentioned the DK log-in script is here for public access
and has always worked flawlessly.....or did I miss something?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> > Yeah, There is a diference between this (the original DK login that now says
"login at DCBG") URL:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/insidious_plots/dcbg/dkyahoologin.html
> >
> > And this (the new DK login) URL:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DreamcastBrowsers/files/dkyahoologin.html
> >
> > Oh that's about 25 pages w/ a login that benefited this group That I have to
fix now.
> > Plz don't tell me you didn't know about the URL change? That is all I was
talking about. Not a consparicsy at all here in "reality". Not paranoid fantasy
land! You insist it never changed and then hacked me for pointing out that it
did..... Dog Sh*t!
> >
> > You could have said "don't get yer panties in a bunch everyone I changed the
URL for that dumb DK login, so everyone just relax...." Instead you say I made
up a theory and was some how out side of reality w/ my unfounded aligations...
> >
> > I don't know what else to say... your last post about me is rediculous (I'm
not a crack pot folks) and all the while you made this bigger than it actualy is
(it's a "F"in' DK login, ~dear lord~) and then I find that the URL was changed.
Who else could've done that. That's yer stupid DK login problem crap in a nut
shell, ppl who had the old URL had to come here b-cuz you changed the login
page. It only makes me wonder what if this were a serious issue not a lame one
like a "DK login", how would you explode that into some major kind of drama.
> >
> > PLEASE...... >-[
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> > > Look I never said it was a conspiracy or anything so let me elaborate.
> > >
> > > 1st I am a member of this group not some guy who sqeeked in to
> > > complain about DCBG conspiracies.
> > >
> > > Now about the DK login, A while back I dunno maybe 3 weeks ago when
> > > you hit the DK yahoo login from your bookmarks or from somewhere like
> > > let's say another site other than DCBG you were takin to a page  w/ a
> > > link that said to login at DCBG. That's it. Where's the consparicy?
> > >
> > > Now I would say that's a change. Curtis investigated this and found
> > > it to be true as well and developed the sript for me at DC-SG so I
> > > and other DK users wouldn't have to come to DCBG to use the DK yahoo
> > > login.
> > >
> > > BTW I FTP'ed that page like in December of last year when I first
> > > found this group. For my own personal login and so I'd have one when
> > > DCBG's DK logins web host might go down or if the group disbanded and
> > > that page may be deleted and so on, I'm not a hacker but I sure aint
> > > a dumb-ass! I erased the JS in it that let it be tracked and so
> > > forth. I only had curtis do the new one cause he likes doing that
> > > kinda' stuff.
> > >
> > > So I hope that clearifies the subject a lil' more. BTW you don't need
> > > to get so damn deffensive and belittling ppl (w/ comments like "don't
> > > you know Ctrl+D") making them seem like they are stupid is lame.
> > > You know me. And you know I know my shit! Thing is ppl here might not
> > > realy know me to good and now they might think I'm a gimp 'cuz  i_p
> > > cut me down to size. I only posted that cuz I thought it was strange
> > > someone else had DK login problems here besides me. You turned it
> > > into I don't know what the "F" I'm talkin' about and now I must be
> > > stewin' up consparicies.... Dude I thought we were buds but instead
> > > you rip me...
> > >
> > > I'll give you this much OK. I'm a bastard b-cuz all these ppl here do
> > > all this work for DC browsing and I come along and reseach and
> > > bookmark (and rape and pilage your knowledge for days) for later and
> > > so on and so forth. And then I contribute nothing but my mesly like 6
> > > posts most of which are all about this DK thing.
> > >
> > > Well I'm sorry I use all the resouces here to often to split and
> > > sometimes I want to post about things I find interesting (which is
> > > seldom). You cutting me down like I'm some kiddie jack-ass is
> > > rediculous. Sorry I must not know how to BM b-cuz I like using DK and
> > > not DP, DPP, DPF, ect........
> > >
> > > If there is a conspiracy I didn't create it. And if you think I am
> > > creating one then your paranoid. I have never bad talked this group
> > > or it's members in public or private. And yes I belong to groups who
> > > have members that don't like some or certain DCBG ppl. So don't get
> > > that mixxed up. Next time I have aproblem w/ something here I'll
> > > email you (i_p) OK. So don't down talk me anymore... Deal.?

I have to admit I'm a little confused by all the fuss here. The first link
simply redirects traffic to the DCBG and the DK log-in. Since it's i_p's web
site I'm unclear why this would be a problem. Once someone gains access to the
script they can simply bookmark it if they no longer wish to visit the DCBG
homepage. As previously mentioned the DK log-in script is here for public access
and has always worked flawlessly.....or did I miss something?









--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, There is a diference between this (the original DK login that now says
"login at DCBG") URL:
>
> http://geocities.com/insidious_plots/dcbg/dkyahoologin.html
>
> And this (the new DK login) URL:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DreamcastBrowsers/files/dkyahoologin.html
>
> Oh that's about 25 pages w/ a login that benefited this group That I have to
fix now.
> Plz don't tell me you didn't know about the URL change? That is all I was
talking about. Not a consparicsy at all here in "reality". Not paranoid fantasy
land! You insist it never changed and then hacked me for pointing out that it
did..... Dog Sh*t!
>
> You could have said "don't get yer panties in a bunch everyone I changed the
URL for that dumb DK login, so everyone just relax...." Instead you say I made
up a theory and was some how out side of reality w/ my unfounded aligations...
>
> I don't know what else to say... your last post about me is rediculous (I'm
not a crack pot folks) and all the while you made this bigger than it actualy is
(it's a "F"in' DK login, ~dear lord~) and then I find that the URL was changed.
Who else could've done that. That's yer stupid DK login problem crap in a nut
shell, ppl who had the old URL had to come here b-cuz you changed the login
page. It only makes me wonder what if this were a serious issue not a lame one
like a "DK login", how would you explode that into some major kind of drama.
>
> PLEASE...... >-[
>
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> > Look I never said it was a conspiracy or anything so let me elaborate.
> >
> > 1st I am a member of this group not some guy who sqeeked in to
> > complain about DCBG conspiracies.
> >
> > Now about the DK login, A while back I dunno maybe 3 weeks ago when
> > you hit the DK yahoo login from your bookmarks or from somewhere like
> > let's say another site other than DCBG you were takin to a page  w/ a
> > link that said to login at DCBG. That's it. Where's the consparicy?
> >
> > Now I would say that's a change. Curtis investigated this and found
> > it to be true as well and developed the sript for me at DC-SG so I
> > and other DK users wouldn't have to come to DCBG to use the DK yahoo
> > login.
> >
> > BTW I FTP'ed that page like in December of last year when I first
> > found this group. For my own personal login and so I'd have one when
> > DCBG's DK logins web host might go down or if the group disbanded and
> > that page may be deleted and so on, I'm not a hacker but I sure aint
> > a dumb-ass! I erased the JS in it that let it be tracked and so
> > forth. I only had curtis do the new one cause he likes doing that
> > kinda' stuff.
> >
> > So I hope that clearifies the subject a lil' more. BTW you don't need
> > to get so damn deffensive and belittling ppl (w/ comments like "don't
> > you know Ctrl+D") making them seem like they are stupid is lame.
> > You know me. And you know I know my shit! Thing is ppl here might not
> > realy know me to good and now they might think I'm a gimp 'cuz  i_p
> > cut me down to size. I only posted that cuz I thought it was strange
> > someone else had DK login problems here besides me. You turned it
> > into I don't know what the "F" I'm talkin' about and now I must be
> > stewin' up consparicies.... Dude I thought we were buds but instead
> > you rip me...
> >
> > I'll give you this much OK. I'm a bastard b-cuz all these ppl here do
> > all this work for DC browsing and I come along and reseach and
> > bookmark (and rape and pilage your knowledge for days) for later and
> > so on and so forth. And then I contribute nothing but my mesly like 6
> > posts most of which are all about this DK thing.
> >
> > Well I'm sorry I use all the resouces here to often to split and
> > sometimes I want to post about things I find interesting (which is
> > seldom). You cutting me down like I'm some kiddie jack-ass is
> > rediculous. Sorry I must not know how to BM b-cuz I like using DK and
> > not DP, DPP, DPF, ect........
> >
> > If there is a conspiracy I didn't create it. And if you think I am
> > creating one then your paranoid. I have never bad talked this group
> > or it's members in public or private. And yes I belong to groups who
> > have members that don't like some or certain DCBG ppl. So don't get
> > that mixxed up. Next time I have aproblem w/ something here I'll
> > email you (i_p) OK. So don't down talk me anymore... Deal.?

Yeah, There is a diference between this (the original DK login that now says
"login at DCBG") URL:

http://geocities.com/insidious_plots/dcbg/dkyahoologin.html

And this (the new DK login) URL:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DreamcastBrowsers/files/dkyahoologin.html

Oh that's about 25 pages w/ a login that benefited this group That I have to fix
now.
Plz don't tell me you didn't know about the URL change? That is all I was
talking about. Not a consparicsy at all here in "reality". Not paranoid fantasy
land! You insist it never changed and then hacked me for pointing out that it
did..... Dog Sh*t!

You could have said "don't get yer panties in a bunch everyone I changed the URL
for that dumb DK login, so everyone just relax...." Instead you say I made up a
theory and was some how out side of reality w/ my unfounded aligations...

I don't know what else to say... your last post about me is rediculous (I'm not
a crack pot folks) and all the while you made this bigger than it actualy is
(it's a "F"in' DK login, ~dear lord~) and then I find that the URL was changed.
Who else could've done that. That's yer stupid DK login problem crap in a nut
shell, ppl who had the old URL had to come here b-cuz you changed the login
page. It only makes me wonder what if this were a serious issue not a lame one
like a "DK login", how would you explode that into some major kind of drama.

PLEASE...... >-[



--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "november" <the_november@y...> wrote:
> Look I never said it was a conspiracy or anything so let me elaborate.
>
> 1st I am a member of this group not some guy who sqeeked in to
> complain about DCBG conspiracies.
>
> Now about the DK login, A while back I dunno maybe 3 weeks ago when
> you hit the DK yahoo login from your bookmarks or from somewhere like
> let's say another site other than DCBG you were takin to a page  w/ a
> link that said to login at DCBG. That's it. Where's the consparicy?
>
> Now I would say that's a change. Curtis investigated this and found
> it to be true as well and developed the sript for me at DC-SG so I
> and other DK users wouldn't have to come to DCBG to use the DK yahoo
> login.
>
> BTW I FTP'ed that page like in December of last year when I first
> found this group. For my own personal login and so I'd have one when
> DCBG's DK logins web host might go down or if the group disbanded and
> that page may be deleted and so on, I'm not a hacker but I sure aint
> a dumb-ass! I erased the JS in it that let it be tracked and so
> forth. I only had curtis do the new one cause he likes doing that
> kinda' stuff.
>
> So I hope that clearifies the subject a lil' more. BTW you don't need
> to get so damn deffensive and belittling ppl (w/ comments like "don't
> you know Ctrl+D") making them seem like they are stupid is lame.
> You know me. And you know I know my shit! Thing is ppl here might not
> realy know me to good and now they might think I'm a gimp 'cuz  i_p
> cut me down to size. I only posted that cuz I thought it was strange
> someone else had DK login problems here besides me. You turned it
> into I don't know what the "F" I'm talkin' about and now I must be
> stewin' up consparicies.... Dude I thought we were buds but instead
> you rip me...
>
> I'll give you this much OK. I'm a bastard b-cuz all these ppl here do
> all this work for DC browsing and I come along and reseach and
> bookmark (and rape and pilage your knowledge for days) for later and
> so on and so forth. And then I contribute nothing but my mesly like 6
> posts most of which are all about this DK thing.
>
> Well I'm sorry I use all the resouces here to often to split and
> sometimes I want to post about things I find interesting (which is
> seldom). You cutting me down like I'm some kiddie jack-ass is
> rediculous. Sorry I must not know how to BM b-cuz I like using DK and
> not DP, DPP, DPF, ect........
>
> If there is a conspiracy I didn't create it. And if you think I am
> creating one then your paranoid. I have never bad talked this group
> or it's members in public or private. And yes I belong to groups who
> have members that don't like some or certain DCBG ppl. So don't get
> that mixxed up. Next time I have aproblem w/ something here I'll
> email you (i_p) OK. So don't down talk me anymore... Deal.?

Look I never said it was a conspiracy or anything so let me elaborate.

1st I am a member of this group not some guy who sqeeked in to
complain about DCBG conspiracies.

Now about the DK login, A while back I dunno maybe 3 weeks ago when
you hit the DK yahoo login from your bookmarks or from somewhere like
let's say another site other than DCBG you were takin to a page  w/ a
link that said to login at DCBG. That's it. Where's the consparicy?

Now I would say that's a change. Curtis investigated this and found
it to be true as well and developed the sript for me at DC-SG so I
and other DK users wouldn't have to come to DCBG to use the DK yahoo
login.

BTW I FTP'ed that page like in December of last year when I first
found this group. For my own personal login and so I'd have one when
DCBG's DK logins web host might go down or if the group disbanded and
that page may be deleted and so on, I'm not a hacker but I sure aint
a dumb-ass! I erased the JS in it that let it be tracked and so
forth. I only had curtis do the new one cause he likes doing that
kinda' stuff.

So I hope that clearifies the subject a lil' more. BTW you don't need
to get so damn deffensive and belittling ppl (w/ comments like "don't
you know Ctrl+D") making them seem like they are stupid is lame.
You know me. And you know I know my shit! Thing is ppl here might not
realy know me to good and now they might think I'm a gimp 'cuz  i_p
cut me down to size. I only posted that cuz I thought it was strange
someone else had DK login problems here besides me. You turned it
into I don't know what the "F" I'm talkin' about and now I must be
stewin' up consparicies.... Dude I thought we were buds but instead
you rip me...

I'll give you this much OK. I'm a bastard b-cuz all these ppl here do
all this work for DC browsing and I come along and reseach and
bookmark (and rape and pilage your knowledge for days) for later and
so on and so forth. And then I contribute nothing but my mesly like 6
posts most of which are all about this DK thing.

Well I'm sorry I use all the resouces here to often to split and
sometimes I want to post about things I find interesting (which is
seldom). You cutting me down like I'm some kiddie jack-ass is
rediculous. Sorry I must not know how to BM b-cuz I like using DK and
not DP, DPP, DPF, ect........

If there is a conspiracy I didn't create it. And if you think I am
creating one then your paranoid. I have never bad talked this group
or it's members in public or private. And yes I belong to groups who
have members that don't like some or certain DCBG ppl. So don't get
that mixxed up. Next time I have aproblem w/ something here I'll
email you (i_p) OK. So don't down talk me anymore... Deal.?