http://www.dk3.sega-europe.com/

you need to be signed up with dream arena though.

hahaha yeah. I think that the darker it is outside, the louder the VMU
beeps.  I bet sega snuck some kind of satellite weather tracking in there
just to mess with us! :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@...>
To: <DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye


> oh man... it's the worst at like 3am when you get up for a gaming fix...
BZZZZ right in your ear... :/
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > Yeah, VMUs are getting pretty cheap. I should pick up some more, so I
can
> > have a whole chorus of no-battery-beeping whenever my Dreamcast turns
on! :)
> >
> > -Sam
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@m...>
> > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> >
> >
> > > I wonder if I'm brave enough to buy you a VMU... they sell for like
$10
> > here... maybe less, and they are the official sega ones.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > > > I'll answer both questions at once here.. cin / cout are the text
input
> > /
> > > > output for C++, and I also love those infocom games, I'll look into
how
> > hard
> > > > a z-code interpreter would be to port once I have keyboard input
working
> > > > correctly.  It would be great to play Adventure or Hitchhiker's
guide to
> > the
> > > > galaxy on the DC!  Sadly saving your game wouldn't be possible for a
> > while,
> > > > as I'm not brave enough to start messing with (and corrupting) my
VMUs
> > just
> > > > yet :)
> > > >
> > > > -Sam
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > > > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > -Sam
> > > > > > > (DreamZZT author)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > oh...  i guess i hadn't noticed...
> > > > > i put 'dreamzzt' into google and landed on your site
> > > > > ...  looks like you have great stuff going on...  do
> > > > > n't know how i missed the connection all this time..
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ok, well that means you get subjected to the same qu
> > > > > estion i throw anyone i think might know since i am
> > > > > no expert on all this...
> > > > > old text adventure?
> > > > > child of the 70s/80s and all that, i grew up on scot
> > > > > t adams and infocom, anything been done?  anything s
> > > > > topping it from being done?
> > > > > http://ifiction.org has an amazing selection and i s
> > > > > ee them for download in many formats all over the we
> > > > > b, so i am guessing there are no huge legal entangle
> > > > > ments...  i haven't gotten around to it, but, i know
> > > > >  i can get them all for my psion...
> > > > > i was thinking linux probably opened up quite a few
> > > > > possibilities and saving to the vmu doesn't seem to
> > > > > be all that tough, i notice the pboom port does it,
> > > > > though i heard the saving is not perfect...
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway, i was once told that there was somethg avail
> > > > > able or little that had to be done to make it availa
> > > > > ble, but, i have since lost contact with the person
> > > > > who knew...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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oh man... it's the worst at like 3am when you get up for a gaming fix... BZZZZ
right in your ear... :/


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> Yeah, VMUs are getting pretty cheap. I should pick up some more, so I can
> have a whole chorus of no-battery-beeping whenever my Dreamcast turns on! :)
>
> -Sam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@m...>
> To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
>
>
> > I wonder if I'm brave enough to buy you a VMU... they sell for like $10
> here... maybe less, and they are the official sega ones.
> >
> >
> > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > > I'll answer both questions at once here.. cin / cout are the text input
> /
> > > output for C++, and I also love those infocom games, I'll look into how
> hard
> > > a z-code interpreter would be to port once I have keyboard input working
> > > correctly.  It would be great to play Adventure or Hitchhiker's guide to
> the
> > > galaxy on the DC!  Sadly saving your game wouldn't be possible for a
> while,
> > > as I'm not brave enough to start messing with (and corrupting) my VMUs
> just
> > > yet :)
> > >
> > > -Sam
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > -Sam
> > > > > > (DreamZZT author)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > oh...  i guess i hadn't noticed...
> > > > i put 'dreamzzt' into google and landed on your site
> > > > ...  looks like you have great stuff going on...  do
> > > > n't know how i missed the connection all this time..
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ok, well that means you get subjected to the same qu
> > > > estion i throw anyone i think might know since i am
> > > > no expert on all this...
> > > > old text adventure?
> > > > child of the 70s/80s and all that, i grew up on scot
> > > > t adams and infocom, anything been done?  anything s
> > > > topping it from being done?
> > > > http://ifiction.org has an amazing selection and i s
> > > > ee them for download in many formats all over the we
> > > > b, so i am guessing there are no huge legal entangle
> > > > ments...  i haven't gotten around to it, but, i know
> > > >  i can get them all for my psion...
> > > > i was thinking linux probably opened up quite a few
> > > > possibilities and saving to the vmu doesn't seem to
> > > > be all that tough, i notice the pboom port does it,
> > > > though i heard the saving is not perfect...
> > > >
> > > > anyway, i was once told that there was somethg avail
> > > > able or little that had to be done to make it availa
> > > > ble, but, i have since lost contact with the person
> > > > who knew...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
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Yeah, VMUs are getting pretty cheap. I should pick up some more, so I can
have a whole chorus of no-battery-beeping whenever my Dreamcast turns on! :)

-Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@...>
To: <DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye


> I wonder if I'm brave enough to buy you a VMU... they sell for like $10
here... maybe less, and they are the official sega ones.
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > I'll answer both questions at once here.. cin / cout are the text input
/
> > output for C++, and I also love those infocom games, I'll look into how
hard
> > a z-code interpreter would be to port once I have keyboard input working
> > correctly.  It would be great to play Adventure or Hitchhiker's guide to
the
> > galaxy on the DC!  Sadly saving your game wouldn't be possible for a
while,
> > as I'm not brave enough to start messing with (and corrupting) my VMUs
just
> > yet :)
> >
> > -Sam
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> >
> >
> > > > > -Sam
> > > > > (DreamZZT author)
> > >
> > >
> > > oh...  i guess i hadn't noticed...
> > > i put 'dreamzzt' into google and landed on your site
> > > ...  looks like you have great stuff going on...  do
> > > n't know how i missed the connection all this time..
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > ok, well that means you get subjected to the same qu
> > > estion i throw anyone i think might know since i am
> > > no expert on all this...
> > > old text adventure?
> > > child of the 70s/80s and all that, i grew up on scot
> > > t adams and infocom, anything been done?  anything s
> > > topping it from being done?
> > > http://ifiction.org has an amazing selection and i s
> > > ee them for download in many formats all over the we
> > > b, so i am guessing there are no huge legal entangle
> > > ments...  i haven't gotten around to it, but, i know
> > >  i can get them all for my psion...
> > > i was thinking linux probably opened up quite a few
> > > possibilities and saving to the vmu doesn't seem to
> > > be all that tough, i notice the pboom port does it,
> > > though i heard the saving is not perfect...
> > >
> > > anyway, i was once told that there was somethg avail
> > > able or little that had to be done to make it availa
> > > ble, but, i have since lost contact with the person
> > > who knew...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________
> > >      - insidious_plots -
> > > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
> > >
> > >
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I wonder if I'm brave enough to buy you a VMU... they sell for like $10 here...
maybe less, and they are the official sega ones.


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> I'll answer both questions at once here.. cin / cout are the text input /
> output for C++, and I also love those infocom games, I'll look into how hard
> a z-code interpreter would be to port once I have keyboard input working
> correctly.  It would be great to play Adventure or Hitchhiker's guide to the
> galaxy on the DC!  Sadly saving your game wouldn't be possible for a while,
> as I'm not brave enough to start messing with (and corrupting) my VMUs just
> yet :)
>
> -Sam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
>
>
> > > > -Sam
> > > > (DreamZZT author)
> >
> >
> > oh...  i guess i hadn't noticed...
> > i put 'dreamzzt' into google and landed on your site
> > ...  looks like you have great stuff going on...  do
> > n't know how i missed the connection all this time..
> > .
> >
> >
> > ok, well that means you get subjected to the same qu
> > estion i throw anyone i think might know since i am
> > no expert on all this...
> > old text adventure?
> > child of the 70s/80s and all that, i grew up on scot
> > t adams and infocom, anything been done?  anything s
> > topping it from being done?
> > http://ifiction.org has an amazing selection and i s
> > ee them for download in many formats all over the we
> > b, so i am guessing there are no huge legal entangle
> > ments...  i haven't gotten around to it, but, i know
> >  i can get them all for my psion...
> > i was thinking linux probably opened up quite a few
> > possibilities and saving to the vmu doesn't seem to
> > be all that tough, i notice the pboom port does it,
> > though i heard the saving is not perfect...
> >
> > anyway, i was once told that there was somethg avail
> > able or little that had to be done to make it availa
> > ble, but, i have since lost contact with the person
> > who knew...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________
> >      - insidious_plots -
> > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> >      Bookmark the Official DCBG Website
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >
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> >

I'll answer both questions at once here.. cin / cout are the text input /
output for C++, and I also love those infocom games, I'll look into how hard
a z-code interpreter would be to port once I have keyboard input working
correctly.  It would be great to play Adventure or Hitchhiker's guide to the
galaxy on the DC!  Sadly saving your game wouldn't be possible for a while,
as I'm not brave enough to start messing with (and corrupting) my VMUs just
yet :)

-Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: <insidious_plots@...>
To: <DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye


> > > -Sam
> > > (DreamZZT author)
>
>
> oh...  i guess i hadn't noticed...
> i put 'dreamzzt' into google and landed on your site
> ...  looks like you have great stuff going on...  do
> n't know how i missed the connection all this time..
> .
>
>
> ok, well that means you get subjected to the same qu
> estion i throw anyone i think might know since i am
> no expert on all this...
> old text adventure?
> child of the 70s/80s and all that, i grew up on scot
> t adams and infocom, anything been done?  anything s
> topping it from being done?
> http://ifiction.org has an amazing selection and i s
> ee them for download in many formats all over the we
> b, so i am guessing there are no huge legal entangle
> ments...  i haven't gotten around to it, but, i know
>  i can get them all for my psion...
> i was thinking linux probably opened up quite a few
> possibilities and saving to the vmu doesn't seem to
> be all that tough, i notice the pboom port does it,
> though i heard the saving is not perfect...
>
> anyway, i was once told that there was somethg avail
> able or little that had to be done to make it availa
> ble, but, i have since lost contact with the person
> who knew...
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
>      - insidious_plots -
> http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
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> > -Sam
> > (DreamZZT author)


oh...  i guess i hadn't noticed...
i put 'dreamzzt' into google and landed on your site
...  looks like you have great stuff going on...  do
n't know how i missed the connection all this time..
.


ok, well that means you get subjected to the same qu
estion i throw anyone i think might know since i am
no expert on all this...
old text adventure?
child of the 70s/80s and all that, i grew up on scot
t adams and infocom, anything been done?  anything s
topping it from being done?
http://ifiction.org has an amazing selection and i s
ee them for download in many formats all over the we
b, so i am guessing there are no huge legal entangle
ments...  i haven't gotten around to it, but, i know
  i can get them all for my psion...
i was thinking linux probably opened up quite a few
possibilities and saving to the vmu doesn't seem to
be all that tough, i notice the pboom port does it,
though i heard the saving is not perfect...

anyway, i was once told that there was somethg avail
able or little that had to be done to make it availa
ble, but, i have since lost contact with the person
who knew...





______________________________
      - insidious_plots -
http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

Sounds cool... let me know so I can submit the news to cvision/dcemu lol. :)

What exactly is cin and cout? I don't know if it's a programming thing because
I'm dumb in that area (for now).


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> Yep, right now I'm working on a 3d engine, but that's just really to show
> off.. I can't really imagine it being used for something like Quake.  I've
> also been working on providing cin and cout text stuff for the Dreamcast so
> that people can do simple stuff to show off.. even if it's just putting
> "Hello world!" on the screen.  Hopefully once I finish the keyboard stuff
> I'll get someting released.
>
> -Sam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@m...>
> To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
>
>
> > heh, sorry I have a head cold ;)
> >
> > so that's cool you have experience with dc programming... I wanted to make
> a simple text based game (similar to what I meantioned in the post to doug a
> few minutes to go), and I have no idea where to get started as far as
> programming, and since I'm using mIRC so much I figured might as well go
> with what I know lol. for the record, I've never played Dream ZZT, although
> I've played it on pc and I never do too well... are you still working with
> dc-related programming?
> >
> >
> > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > > Actually, it's dc-load-ip, not KOS that has LAN support.  Dan's working
> on
> > > getting the networking stuff going now, as well as an improved 3d API,
> but I
> > > assume that since you mentioned KOS you're probably on the dcdev mailing
> > > list, too, and already know that :)
> > >
> > > -Sam
> > > (DreamZZT author)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@m...>
> > > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> > >
> > >
> > > > It's not 'good' for making Dreamcast software yet... there's a version
> of
> > > kalistios that had lan support added, but afaik, it's limited yet...
> still,
> > > cheaper than the (some places) $130+ BBA for devving. And yes be weary,
> it
> > > will not work with any dc software except the DP2 included with it, and
> the
> > > new kalistios with support added.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > > > > Keep in mind that the LAN adapter and the Broadband Adapter are two
> > > > > completly different units, and only the Broadband Adapter works with
> > > > > official Sega games.  The LAN adapter is only good for using the
> version
> > > of
> > > > > Passport included with it, and for developing Dreamcast software.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Sam
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > > > > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://gamechoice.com.uk
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> > > > > > ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> > > > > > alot of rare stuff...
> > > > > > they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you know, we may buy this cam...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Yep, right now I'm working on a 3d engine, but that's just really to show
off.. I can't really imagine it being used for something like Quake.  I've
also been working on providing cin and cout text stuff for the Dreamcast so
that people can do simple stuff to show off.. even if it's just putting
"Hello world!" on the screen.  Hopefully once I finish the keyboard stuff
I'll get someting released.

-Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@...>
To: <DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye


> heh, sorry I have a head cold ;)
>
> so that's cool you have experience with dc programming... I wanted to make
a simple text based game (similar to what I meantioned in the post to doug a
few minutes to go), and I have no idea where to get started as far as
programming, and since I'm using mIRC so much I figured might as well go
with what I know lol. for the record, I've never played Dream ZZT, although
I've played it on pc and I never do too well... are you still working with
dc-related programming?
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > Actually, it's dc-load-ip, not KOS that has LAN support.  Dan's working
on
> > getting the networking stuff going now, as well as an improved 3d API,
but I
> > assume that since you mentioned KOS you're probably on the dcdev mailing
> > list, too, and already know that :)
> >
> > -Sam
> > (DreamZZT author)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@m...>
> > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> >
> >
> > > It's not 'good' for making Dreamcast software yet... there's a version
of
> > kalistios that had lan support added, but afaik, it's limited yet...
still,
> > cheaper than the (some places) $130+ BBA for devving. And yes be weary,
it
> > will not work with any dc software except the DP2 included with it, and
the
> > new kalistios with support added.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > > > Keep in mind that the LAN adapter and the Broadband Adapter are two
> > > > completly different units, and only the Broadband Adapter works with
> > > > official Sega games.  The LAN adapter is only good for using the
version
> > of
> > > > Passport included with it, and for developing Dreamcast software.
> > > >
> > > > -Sam
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > > > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > > Subject: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://gamechoice.com.uk
> > > > >
> > > > > i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> > > > > ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
> > > > >
> > > > > 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
> > > > >
> > > > > btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> > > > > alot of rare stuff...
> > > > > they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
> > > > >
> > > > > you know, we may buy this cam...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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heh, sorry I have a head cold ;)

so that's cool you have experience with dc programming... I wanted to make a
simple text based game (similar to what I meantioned in the post to doug a few
minutes to go), and I have no idea where to get started as far as programming,
and since I'm using mIRC so much I figured might as well go with what I know
lol. for the record, I've never played Dream ZZT, although I've played it on pc
and I never do too well... are you still working with dc-related programming?


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> Actually, it's dc-load-ip, not KOS that has LAN support.  Dan's working on
> getting the networking stuff going now, as well as an improved 3d API, but I
> assume that since you mentioned KOS you're probably on the dcdev mailing
> list, too, and already know that :)
>
> -Sam
> (DreamZZT author)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@m...>
> To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
>
>
> > It's not 'good' for making Dreamcast software yet... there's a version of
> kalistios that had lan support added, but afaik, it's limited yet... still,
> cheaper than the (some places) $130+ BBA for devving. And yes be weary, it
> will not work with any dc software except the DP2 included with it, and the
> new kalistios with support added.
> >
> >
> > --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > > Keep in mind that the LAN adapter and the Broadband Adapter are two
> > > completly different units, and only the Broadband Adapter works with
> > > official Sega games.  The LAN adapter is only good for using the version
> of
> > > Passport included with it, and for developing Dreamcast software.
> > >
> > > -Sam
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > Subject: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://gamechoice.com.uk
> > > >
> > > > i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> > > > ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
> > > >
> > > > 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
> > > >
> > > > btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> > > > alot of rare stuff...
> > > > they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
> > > >
> > > > you know, we may buy this cam...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ______________________________
> > > >      - insidious_plots -
> > > > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
> > > >
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I was just playing this game called Drug Lord 2 for pc today, and got to
thinking... I love this game lol. I don't know how to program, I do know how to
script mIRC though, and am going to try to "port" it to mIRC, or actually making
a clone of it, with different options etc. Now, this afaik will be hard because
there are things I have to do, that I haven't done yet, but I see it entirely
possible.

Anyways, to get to my point, I wanted to know how hard it would be to script a
high-score board for this... not necesarily a board, but I'm sure it would
consist of a database, a script to recieve the sent data, and a script to
redirect the person to a page showing the top 50 scores, and where (if at all)
they rank. So my question is... how hard would it be? and would you want to do
it? I don't know how I could repay you... but uh, I'm good at burning stuff to
cd-r's ;) anyways, let me know what you think, and if you want a link to this
game (yes I'm addicted), let me know.

BTW: my high score is like 3,500,000,000 - and I've been playing for oh, 3 days
now? :P

Actually, it's dc-load-ip, not KOS that has LAN support.  Dan's working on
getting the networking stuff going now, as well as an improved 3d API, but I
assume that since you mentioned KOS you're probably on the dcdev mailing
list, too, and already know that :)

-Sam
(DreamZZT author)

----- Original Message -----
From: "nbvampman" <VampMan@...>
To: <DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye


> It's not 'good' for making Dreamcast software yet... there's a version of
kalistios that had lan support added, but afaik, it's limited yet... still,
cheaper than the (some places) $130+ BBA for devving. And yes be weary, it
will not work with any dc software except the DP2 included with it, and the
new kalistios with support added.
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> > Keep in mind that the LAN adapter and the Broadband Adapter are two
> > completly different units, and only the Broadband Adapter works with
> > official Sega games.  The LAN adapter is only good for using the version
of
> > Passport included with it, and for developing Dreamcast software.
> >
> > -Sam
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> > To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:51 PM
> > Subject: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
> >
> >
> > >
> > > http://gamechoice.com.uk
> > >
> > > i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> > > ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
> > >
> > > 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
> > >
> > > btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> > > alot of rare stuff...
> > > they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
> > >
> > > you know, we may buy this cam...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________
> > >      - insidious_plots -
> > > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________
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>
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It's not 'good' for making Dreamcast software yet... there's a version of
kalistios that had lan support added, but afaik, it's limited yet... still,
cheaper than the (some places) $130+ BBA for devving. And yes be weary, it will
not work with any dc software except the DP2 included with it, and the new
kalistios with support added.


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "Sam Steele" <chip@c...> wrote:
> Keep in mind that the LAN adapter and the Broadband Adapter are two
> completly different units, and only the Broadband Adapter works with
> official Sega games.  The LAN adapter is only good for using the version of
> Passport included with it, and for developing Dreamcast software.
>
> -Sam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <insidious_plots@y...>
> To: <DreamcastBrowsers@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:51 PM
> Subject: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye
>
>
> >
> > http://gamechoice.com.uk
> >
> > i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> > ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
> >
> > 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
> >
> > btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> > alot of rare stuff...
> > they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
> >
> > you know, we may buy this cam...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________
> >      - insidious_plots -
> > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> >      Bookmark the Official DCBG Website
> >         http://DCBrowserGroup.cjb.net
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
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> >
> >
> >

January 31st was also the day Sega announced their exit from hardware
:(  -Sargeant D(VGA)


>From: insidious_plots@...
>Reply-To: DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com
>To: DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DCBG] oh, it's pso's 1 year birthday
>Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:44:53 -0800
>
>
>missmary went to check something out on gamefaqs and
>  noticed the u.s. release of pso was jan 31, 2001...
>   by my math, that makes one year...
>
>oh, to have been there...  we came along in april...
>
>you are not the only hero...
>
>
>
>
>
>______________________________
>      - insidious_plots -
>http://insidiousplots.cjb.net


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i recieved 2 pics (dreameye) from jpn to my email, they
while not digital qaulity were neverthelesss quite cool......



--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., "oldskoolsega" <oldskoolsega@y...> wrote:
> i would like you to go back and read my post on the dreameye before
> buying it im not trying to put you of just trying to say you
> can/will/maybe not find it hard to get going i found it quite simple
> you may find it so easy but you might not take the time to find out
> about it ask any more questions that you would like and i will answer
> them. ive seen quite a few people get broken on the rocks like this
> not over dreameye but on stuff like the lan adapter there are even
> places selling this item knowing its not the bba and selling it as a
> bba aleast some places state you cant use it with games you can
> allways check the part number i sorry i dont have them near now but i
> will post them up so anyone who is thinking of getting a bba can
> check to make sure there not getting a lan adapter if anyone else has
> the number post it up to help groupmembers and site visters out as im
> sure people do come to the site to find out how to get online with
> there games
>                  oldskoolsega

this will come in handy, esp if it can shorten
url's run through a translator (which always break)



--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., insidious_plots@y... wrote:
>
> http://paulding.net/bin/url.cgi
>
> you go there, and put a long ass address in, and it
> gives you a very short re-director address...
>
> as often as we post long links here and they always
> get broken, this is the final answer...  man, how ha
> ndy do things get...
> of course, i only tested it once, so, it could be wa
> yyyyy too good to be true...
>
>
> oh, and, btw, this is yet another super-useful site
> you find while digging through webtv web-tools sites
> , for which we have a folder, but, only a couple of
> links...  but, they have tons of useful stuff...
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
>      - insidious_plots -
> http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

UPDATE: The new settings are for ASDL connections only.



--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., insidious_plots@y... wrote:
>
> it looks that way, doesn't it...
>
>
> > for dricas pop3 and smtp?
> >
> > http://www.sega.co.jp/dc/qa/mail_config.html
>
> ______________________________
>      - insidious_plots -
> http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

i would like you to go back and read my post on the dreameye before
buying it im not trying to put you of just trying to say you
can/will/maybe not find it hard to get going i found it quite simple
you may find it so easy but you might not take the time to find out
about it ask any more questions that you would like and i will answer
them. ive seen quite a few people get broken on the rocks like this
not over dreameye but on stuff like the lan adapter there are even
places selling this item knowing its not the bba and selling it as a
bba aleast some places state you cant use it with games you can
allways check the part number i sorry i dont have them near now but i
will post them up so anyone who is thinking of getting a bba can
check to make sure there not getting a lan adapter if anyone else has
the number post it up to help groupmembers and site visters out as im
sure people do come to the site to find out how to get online with
there games
                  oldskoolsega

http://paulding.net/bin/url.cgi

you go there, and put a long ass address in, and it
gives you a very short re-director address...

as often as we post long links here and they always
get broken, this is the final answer...  man, how ha
ndy do things get...
of course, i only tested it once, so, it could be wa
yyyyy too good to be true...


oh, and, btw, this is yet another super-useful site
you find while digging through webtv web-tools sites
, for which we have a folder, but, only a couple of
links...  but, they have tons of useful stuff...





______________________________
      - insidious_plots -
http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

Keep in mind that the LAN adapter and the Broadband Adapter are two
completly different units, and only the Broadband Adapter works with
official Sega games.  The LAN adapter is only good for using the version of
Passport included with it, and for developing Dreamcast software.

-Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: <insidious_plots@...>
To: <DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: [DCBG] btw, here is where to buy dreameye


>
> http://gamechoice.com.uk
>
> i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
>
> 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
>
> btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> alot of rare stuff...
> they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
>
> you know, we may buy this cam...
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
>      - insidious_plots -
> http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
>      Bookmark the Official DCBG Website
>         http://DCBrowserGroup.cjb.net
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>
>

oops...

http://gamechoice.com.hk

and if i got it wrong again, it is in the bookmarks
in 'where to buy passport'...


> why doesn't the url work...?
>
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., insidious_plots@y..
. wrote:
> >
> > http://gamechoice.com.uk
> >
> > i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they m
ay h
> > ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
> >
> > 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
> >
> > btw, if you have never been to this site, they h
ave
> > alot of rare stuff...
> > they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50.
..
> >
> > you know, we may buy this cam...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________
> >      - insidious_plots -
> > http://insidiousplots.cjb.net
>
>
> __________________________________________________
__
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______________________________
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http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

why doesn't the url work...?


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@y..., insidious_plots@y... wrote:
>
> http://gamechoice.com.uk
>
> i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
> ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...
>
> 140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...
>
> btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
> alot of rare stuff...
> they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...
>
> you know, we may buy this cam...
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
>      - insidious_plots -
> http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

i just got my 2.62.. really 2.613 i dont know why they call it 2.62..

now i can switch between Planetweb and DPP without fucking my Ch@b. :)

http://gamechoice.com.uk

i had said before it was hongkongfun, and they may h
ave it, but, i was thinking of this one...

140 bucks, and they say it is in stock...

btw, if you have never been to this site, they have
alot of rare stuff...
they even have the lan adaptor in stock for $50...

you know, we may buy this cam...





______________________________
      - insidious_plots -
http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

oh also about that new imac that was just release. its a g4, dual gig

system with the new GEforce 4 mx card in case anyone was interested.

-- 

Ok, a few more questions-

1. I've looked around at some imacs
   and I'm impressed. However, all
   the apples I've seen have a
   processor speed in the 5-700mhz
   range. Will these be a problem?

2. Since it requires different software
   than a pc, will I be able to take
   advantage of all the free (for
   backups only, of course) software
   at places like Morpheus?

-- 

> well your talkin apples and oranges here. mhz is n
ot a good way to
> compare speed between the two systems (pc/mac)

yeah, exactly...  well said...  i knew i was forgett
ing a good summary line...





______________________________
      - insidious_plots -
http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

> Ok, a few more questions-
>
> 1. I've looked around at some imacs
>    and I'm impressed. However, all
>    the apples I've seen have a
>    processor speed in the 5-700mhz
>    range. Will these be a problem?

well, i am sure he will say it, so, i will just rein
force it by agreeing, the apples have more efficient
  processors...  they do more with less...  i have se
en a place or two on the web giving the comparison..
.  this much apple mhz equals that much pc mhz, etc.
..
btw, if you do a web search on mac vs. pc and throw
in the word "faq" i bet you'll see some solid compar
isons...


> 2. Since it requires different software
>    than a pc, will I be able to take
>    advantage of all the free (for
>    backups only, of course) software
>    at places like Morpheus?

since i haven't touched all this stuff in awhile i c
an't say on this one for today's software/services,
but, i will say that the pc'ers have always created
alot more paranoia about lack of software than actua
lly exists, but, i think you got that part already..
.





______________________________
      - insidious_plots -
http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

it looks that way, doesn't it...


> for dricas pop3 and smtp?
>
> http://www.sega.co.jp/dc/qa/mail_config.html

______________________________
      - insidious_plots -
http://insidiousplots.cjb.net

missmary went to check something out on gamefaqs and
  noticed the u.s. release of pso was jan 31, 2001...
   by my math, that makes one year...

oh, to have been there...  we came along in april...

you are not the only hero...





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