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#15515 From: Steven Lavander <kevin_clauson@...>
Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 7:37 pm
Subject: New Additions
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I added a whole bunch of flash games to my site for you to play while you wait for the downloads to finish from (megaupload, rapidshare etc....).

The link to my site is in my yahoo group
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/kevin_clauson/join


Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

#15329 From: dpk@...
Date: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:15 am
Subject: Re: some web archive dc stuff
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------------------------------------------------
Search the web by email! mailto:www@...
adding your search to the subject line like this:
search summer vacations
------------------------------------------------


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...> wrote:

>Another good example

>http://web.archive.org/web/20030213203059/home.earthlink.net/~dcbrowsers/bookma\
rklets/
>Somebody should host these. There are some good bookmarklets for dreamcast and
pc users.

Some brazil dude saved it in vmfile.
http://www.angelfire.com/dc2/fer/vmu/passs74.VMS

#15327 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Lik_Sang out?
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--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks...
>
> Just cruised over to one of my favorite
> import sites (lik-sang.com) only to be
> greeted with the following.....
>
> Recent headlines:  Important Notice: Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to
Multiple Sony Lawsuits
>
>
> I have done business there multible times for
> hard to find items and must admit I was a bit
> startled to see they are not accepting ANY orders
>
> Another end-of-an-era I guess.......
>

Yeah, all thanks to Sony Europe. They repeatedly got Liksang involved in
lawsuits over the importing of the PSP into UK/Europe. It didn't come to light
until afterwards that several execs from Sony Euroe regularly used liksang to
import stuff!

Liksang was where I got the last Dreamcast games from.


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...

#15326 From: "segata128" <daniel_iglesias_diaz@...>
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: Lik_Sang out?
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Very sad news indeed. Play-Asia was also "threatened" by sony and
they stopped shipping sony products to the EU months ago. Many
customs agents (in the EU again) have orders to report about packages
with the name "sony" or "playstation" on it, making import shops'
life impossible. I know the owner of one of these shops and he
doesn't import any psp related articles anymore.

But again I think sony is carving their own tomb. The only thing they
have left are a few exclusive games for the ps3, but titles don't
remain "exclusive" for too long these days...

--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi folks...
>
> Just cruised over to one of my favorite
> import sites (lik-sang.com) only to be
> greeted with the following.....
>
> Recent headlines:  Important Notice: Lik-Sang.com Out of Business
due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits
>
>
> I have done business there multible times for
> hard to find items and must admit I was a bit
> startled to see they are not accepting ANY orders
>
> Another end-of-an-era I guess.......
>

#15322 From: "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:42 am
Subject: Lik_Sang out?
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Hi folks...

Just cruised over to one of my favorite
import sites (lik-sang.com) only to be
greeted with the following.....

Recent headlines:  Important Notice: Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to
Multiple Sony Lawsuits


I have done business there multible times for
hard to find items and must admit I was a bit
startled to see they are not accepting ANY orders

Another end-of-an-era I guess.......

#15319 From: dpk@...
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:07 am
Subject: Super Bookmark Maker for DP/DK
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------------------------------------------------
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adding the web page you want as the subject line
e.g. get CNN headlines with the subject: cnn.com
------------------------------------------------

Hello everyone,
This Bookmark maker is very similar like japanese hyperbookmark maker, Just
enter Title and URL in big textarea (line by line)
  Preview it until you happy with the look and download  to VMU, also detect
useragent, Because i dont use frame, all preview, and the result are on the
bottom.

  Cool thing is you will able to load your old superbookmark vmfile back and it
will extract all your links so you can add new link, compatible with japanese
hyperbookmark if you still have it and blueswirl compress bookmark file, load
those file and you will see. Currently it will NOT work with individual
bookmark, the one contain 2 blocks. I have a problem with entity characters.
3 styles of html to download
Easy links - Contain 3 favorite links on per lines. rarely have to scroll up and
down, very easy to use. (recommended use this)
Bookmarklet style - Very easy to C/C/P, just click the button on left side.
History style- Just like your DP/DK visited page.

Click "Sample" button, it has 3 links for testing and click Preview. (you will
see zip extractor tool here)
http://m30.hostrocket.com/Vm_bookmark

Thank to Thomazo for the S file maker, And some japanese script.
this is thomazo version of bookmark maker.
http://programadores-sp.freehostia.com/dreamcast/bookmaker.html
His vmfile is not compatible with my page.

If the page doesnt load, most likely my server is down again.
Bookmarklet for this script coming soon.
enter url:x-avfront://---.dream  etc in jumpbox so it allow you to load.
(BTW, i havent really test with DREAMKEY 3 browser, please test it and let me
know if it work.)

#15318 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:00 pm
Subject: I'm back!
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Hi folks,

I unfortunately lost access to the net last Sunday/Monday when my Dreamcast
(model HKT:3010 (Hong Kong)) started resetting itself randomly (usually every
5-10 seconds). Despite having another one (partially broken - the GD disc drive
doesn't work), a model HKT:3000 (Japanese), I was unable to sort the problem
out.

I did opened up the spare one as a test run and gave it a good clean out. I
checked it still worked and, apart from the GD disc drive, it did. I opened up
the one I had been using and, apart from a dead spder in there, it wasn't at all
dirty.
I looked over the connections and did everything I could to try and get it
working again. It still resets itself randomly, making it pretty useless other
than for spare parts.

I have borrowed my dads one (model HKT: 3030 (UK/Europe?)) so I can get back
online and get a new one from eBay :)


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...


PS. I'll clean-up the archive shortly.

#15232 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Sat Oct 7, 2006 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: How do I switch my yahoo email accts back...
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--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "xmulder1212" <xmulder1212@> wrote:
> >
> > to the way it way was before they somehow
> > got changed to 'Beta', Which I did not choose
> > for my accts??
> >
>
> Nor me
>
> > With beta I can't send out any letters I compose.
> > I press send and all I get is a blank screen.
>
> Yup, me too. I either reply to emails via the groups pages, or I use the POP3
mode (on Dreamkey 3).
>
> > This is what shows on the bottom bar space
> > (I'm using DDP) on the Compose page.
> >
> > http://us.fXXX.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose
> > ?YY=XXXXX&y5beta=yes  (the Xs represent numbers)
> >
>
> Hmmm, I hadn't noticed that end code
>

This is why:

http://uk.f259.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?box=Inbox&Mid=7808_2579130_6431_2817_67\
2_0_164916_-1_0&inc=&Search=&YY=10989&order=down&sort=date&pos=0

Yahoo UK doesn't have the same URL! Hmmm...


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...

#15231 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Sat Oct 7, 2006 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: How do I switch my yahoo email accts back...
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--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "xmulder1212" <xmulder1212@...> wrote:
>
> to the way it way was before they somehow
> got changed to 'Beta', Which I did not choose
> for my accts??
>

Nor me

> With beta I can't send out any letters I compose.
> I press send and all I get is a blank screen.

Yup, me too. I either reply to emails via the groups pages, or I use the POP3
mode (on Dreamkey 3).

> This is what shows on the bottom bar space
> (I'm using DDP) on the Compose page.
>
> http://us.fXXX.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose
> ?YY=XXXXX&y5beta=yes  (the Xs represent numbers)
>

Hmmm, I hadn't noticed that end code

> How do I get rid of the &5ybeta=yes on the end?
>

I'll take a look...

   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
> (Now I hope this message wront(sp?) be lost
> because of all the spamming) :/
>

Shouldn't do, atleast not in the archives, as I just deleted all the spam from
the last week.


Regards,
Andrew B
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#15228 From: "xmulder1212" <xmulder1212@...>
Date: Sat Oct 7, 2006 8:45 am
Subject: How do I switch my yahoo email accts back...
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to the way it way was before they somehow
got changed to 'Beta', Which I did not choose
for my accts??

With beta I can't send out any letters I compose.
I press send and all I get is a blank screen.

This is what shows on the bottom bar space
(I'm using DDP) on the Compose page.

http://us.fXXX.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose
?YY=XXXXX&y5beta=yes  (the Xs represent numbers)

How do I get rid of the &5ybeta=yes on the end?
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

(Now I hope this message wront(sp?) be lost
because of all the spamming) :/

#15200 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Sun Oct 1, 2006 9:43 pm
Subject: east coast gaming expo
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Hi folks,

I stumbled onto this


http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/07/24/192024.php


about 1/4 way down the page, there was talk of a Dreamcast magazine that was due
to be launched at the East Coast Gaming Expo '05, but was delayed. Anyone know
anything about this?


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...

#15047 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:35 pm
Subject: well i rejoined..
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well i had rejoined before but really didnt feel comfortable with
it.but since ive been posting without anything coming up negative from
the past,im gonna keep my membership now.

still feels a bit weird tho..

#15045 From: "Fallout =)" <falout1@...>
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: some web archive dc stuff
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--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "curtis_ray_31"
<curtis_ray_31@...> wrote:
>
> yep plot's bookmarklet site needs a new home.i think its archived here
> at the group,but in compressed form.be cool if the group could host
> the html files itself in the files section.i would help if someone
> else wanted to help add them.
>

I backed them up some time ago (1 yeahr and a half) + resgistered some
domains that where used in the past .

http://www.dcbg.cjb.net
http://search.dcbg.cjb.net
http://www.dcbookmarkletlab.cjb.net
http://www.dcbg-faqs.cjb.net

#15038 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: some web archive dc stuff
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yep plot's bookmarklet site needs a new home.i think its archived here
at the group,but in compressed form.be cool if the group could host
the html files itself in the files section.i would help if someone
else wanted to help add them.


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
wrote:
>
> Another good example
>
>
http://web.archive.org/web/20030213203059/home.earthlink.net/~dcbrowsers/bookmar\
klets/
> Somebody should host these. There are some good bookmarklets for
dreamcast and pc users.
>

#15035 From: "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
Date: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:18 am
Subject: Re: some web archive dc stuff
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Another good example

http://web.archive.org/web/20030213203059/home.earthlink.net/~dcbrowsers/bookmar\
klets/
Somebody should host these. There are some good bookmarklets for dreamcast and
pc users.

#15028 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:51 am
Subject: some web archive dc stuff
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030218084453/http://magmoon.goodsite.cc/


the above will take you to a functioning?? archive of the vmuhtml
testbed and even has a downloadable vmi of the testbed that works..ie
the download does..the web archive "may" support the actual use of the
testbed as it seems to have backed up everything including the cgi.

also of note

http://kefka.hypermart.net is archived in the web archive..but some
things are there and some things are not.

just look thru on dc to see what functions for you and what doesnt.

also of note is that the archive has a backed up vmi section as well
from the old dreamserv but it isnt indexed..the url was
http://kefka.hypermart.net/data if i recall correctly..once you do a
proper archive search of dreamserv..youll notice the /data directory
with the included saves.


note for dc users..the archive is a extremely useful tool to you.you
can find MANY of the now gone sites that we all used to visit and
use.some are fully functional with actual download content and some
are semi-useful with the exception of some missing pages..

a tip for you would be to hit the dcbg links section,if you hit a dead
link or missing site..use that link in the wayback machine to get what
you were looking for.most of the time the archive will have something
backed up.

for those who have xdp 3 you should have a built in wayback machine
that functions just fine for these purposes.

that in retrospect was probably my most useful contribution to xdp and
this whole scene.considering the usefulness of the wayback machine in
these days of disappearing dc sites.

#15026 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: Attention: Calling Mr vgskarl...
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check your yahoo email,in case you cant reach karl i sent you a link..


--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "xmulder1212"
<xmulder1212@...> wrote:
>
> Please send me your email address :)
>
> I tried to write you but the letter came
> back (old addy-undeliverable). It's in
> regards to the Planetweb 3.0 Browser.
>
> Thanks Much!  xmulder1212
>

#15011 From: "xmulder1212" <xmulder1212@...>
Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:18 am
Subject: Attention: Calling Mr vgskarl...
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Please send me your email address :)

I tried to write you but the letter came
back (old addy-undeliverable). It's in
regards to the Planetweb 3.0 Browser.

Thanks Much!  xmulder1212

#14979 From: "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 9:20 pm
Subject: gmail in older browsers
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Thanks to  Jason Hart Maivia for pointing me to a Lite version of gmail that
supports all Dreamcast browsers.

gmail.pirana0.com

#14969 From: SONICR <SONICR2@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 9:42 am
Subject: Interview with Ken Soohoo about PW 3.0 - Part 2
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> Hi SonicR,
>
> Answers below...
>
> >So tell me about DreamCall. Was it not in 3.0D
because of Sega and their Innosphere VoIP
Contract or was it just replaced in favor of the
IM?
>
> Not sure why, Sega of Japan just cancelled it.
>
> >ah, so would it be possible to bring the IM
back online if someone created some VMU
downloads?
>
> Different kind of download, not VMU, and the
server-side is long since gone, sorry!
>
> >So it was all SOJ's decesion to make you guys
use them enstead of just sharing the same memory
areas 100%?
>
> Yes, SOJ made the call.
>
>
>
> ----------
> Ken Soohoo
> President and CEO
> Planetweb, Inc.
> 1300 Island Drive, Suite 202
> Redwood Shores, CA 94065
> (650) 551-5529 (direct)
> (650) 551-5562 (fax)
> soohoo@...


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#14967 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 5:17 am
Subject: Re: A Interview with Ken Soohoo about PW 3.0
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the java function works fairly well if the right java applications are
used.many and i mean many of the java games work very well.

many get confused with shockwave games and java games...not their
fault but mostly the web designers faults.they "lump" java and
shockwave applications together and when you did a search on pw 3 for
"java games"..you would end up getting shockwave flash...many dc users
couldnt see if it was java or flash due to no source viewer at hand to
see any extension differences..thus believed they just didnt work.

i believe excalibur had many java games working on pw for xdp at one
time...not sure if they ended up in the final work tho.the ones we
worked on together worked failry well..with a few exceptions where
frames or popup window scripts where used in the java.


planetweb 3 was overall not what many had hoped for around here,and
thus just did not sell after initial reviews from those whom had it
and saw it in action got out there.among those where mine and plot's
reviews..dismal..to be nice about it..we had suggested many features
to planetweb that made sense...like just dumping flash support
altogether,and java as well..and focus on beefing up JS,css,cut copy
paste functions..and even pondered dumping dreamcall(which they did
any way..)to free dc memory for the things that would have made pw 3 a
real alternative to dp...planetweb just didnt listen to the ONLY
audience and trusted authority they had to rely on..this group.


we made suggestions..if implemented..would still be seeling today..and
  might have resulted in even more updates.


to bad they didnt think actually turning the toy known as planetweb
browser into a real web browser was a selling point.

i cant see buying it at all.

not at anything over $9.95 a disc...it just isnt worth it.


Curtis




--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
wrote:
>
> Interesting. The java was ambitious (and I'm sure quite costly) but
ended up with little functionality.
> The biggest feature, which should have been in 2.0 and higher,
definetly would have been copy + paste. The earliest DreamKey had
that. It's a basic, expected browser function. Having the use of
hotkeys and new (unread) email notification would have been a close
second. A third party IM would have been icing on the cake. Kudos
though for a very good IRC client, nice tools from planetwebmaster,
and a functioning VoIP client in 2.6 (Dreamcall).
>

#14965 From: "coffeepro" <coffeepro@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 2:31 am
Subject: Re: A Interview with Ken Soohoo about PW 3.0
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Interesting. The java was ambitious (and I'm sure quite costly) but ended up
with little functionality.
The biggest feature, which should have been in 2.0 and higher, definetly would
have been copy + paste. The earliest DreamKey had that. It's a basic, expected
browser function. Having the use of hotkeys and new (unread) email notification
would have been a close second. A third party IM would have been icing on the
cake. Kudos though for a very good IRC client, nice tools from planetwebmaster,
and a functioning VoIP client in 2.6 (Dreamcall).

#14964 From: "Nathan" <SONICR2@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 2:58 am
Subject: eBuddy
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For those that don't know, eBuddy (formaly eMessenger) has finished their Yahoo
and AIM Mobile HTML Messengers.

http://mob.ebuddy.com/ eBuddy MSN IM
http://moby.ebuddy.com/ eBuddy Yahoo IM
http://moba.ebuddy.com/ eBuddy AOL IM

The Yahoo one doesn't work 100% correct, the Auto-Update Javascript doesn't work
on any DC browser so you must manual refresh the page. Also if you ever get a
"Can not load document" Error, try again later.

#14962 From: SONICR <SONICR2@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 1:15 am
Subject: A Interview with Ken Soohoo about PW 3.0
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> Hi SonicR,
>
> Some answers to your questions... (see below)
>
> Ken
>
> At 04:01 AM 8/1/2006, SONICR wrote:
> >How much did it cost to finish the project
> >anyway, and what can you tell me about it?
> like
> >DreamCall, was it gonna be in 3.0? because the
> >HTML is still there I know.
>
> Its really impossible to say how much this
> cost...
> We had eight engineers on this for months,
> which
> means to "finish" it was half a million
> dollars.
>
> >was the IM gonna have support for
> MSN/AOL/Yahoo?
> >I remember a servay i think on
> >dreamcast.planetweb about MSN being supported
> >later on.
>
> Definitely, the architecture supported
> multi-protocol
> chat / IM through automatic downloads.
>
> >why didn't the BBA setting be like
> DreamPassport
> >so that it'd configure the DC for PSO and
> such?
>
> Sega of Japan specifically allocated different
> blocks
> in the internal memory storage area for the
> DreamPassport and Planetweb products.  PSO is
> a derivative of DreamPassport.
>
> >why didn't the "URL Clock" feature, also in
> >2.6/2.62, get fully re-implamented from the
> >Saturn days?
>
> The clock was removed in favor of the other
> icons that were new, and in general the
> products we were developing at that time
> did not contain a clock feature.
>
> >also why wasn't there ever a "Disable Pics"
> >option like from the Saturn days and
> >DreamPassport/DreamKey?
>
> With larger bandwidths this was deemed
> unnecessary.
>
> >was there ever also gonna be multi browser
> >"Skins" like on the Saturn browsers and
> >DreamPassportPremier?
>
> The feature was not perceived to be very
> valuable, so it was cut from the
> specifications.
> It was a possibility for 3.0, but we decided to
> spend the R & D on new functions like Java.
>
>
>
> ----------
> Ken Soohoo
> President and CEO
> Planetweb, Inc.
> 1300 Island Drive, Suite 202
> Redwood Shores, CA 94065
> (650) 551-5529 (direct)
> (650) 551-5562 (fax)
> soohoo@...
>


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#14958 From: "Nathan" <SONICR2@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 7:21 am
Subject: Planetweb Web Browser 3.0
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I've been talking to the my friend Ken Soohoo, President/CEO of Planetweb, and
have good news for anyone still seeking the 3.0 Browser. It seams they still
have back stock of at least 900 3.0 Web Browsers!!!

Don't pay those Insain prices of $50-75+ Anymore, as you can own 3.0 for a Total
of $24.95!!! Contact KenSoohoo@... to order or you can wait untill
they get up their eBay ad. They'll take Cashier's Check or a Money Order, no
need for Credit Cards or PayPal!

For those that don't know anything about the 3.0 Browser it features:
- Limited 4.0 Flash, The ONLY DC Browser to have such.
- Limited Java ver 1.1.8,  Again the ONLY DC Browser to have such!
- BBA (BroadBand Adaptor) Support! The ONLY US DC Browser to support it!

Along with returning features like IRC Chat and limited MP3 support!

Support Planetweb, they deserve it for taking the chance, with their own
money&time, to finish and get the 3.0 Browser released after Sega scapped plans
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#14922 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: Last Hope (Neo Geo AES and Dreamcast)
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--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
wrote:
>
> i did wanna mention how im alternatively enjoying my dc versus the
> homebrew scene.i now focus on finding the many titles i never
> played(and there is way more than enough to keep me busy on dc for
> some time to come..),looking for the rare titles that dc had that many
> might have overlooked,etc..dont get me wrong..i have enjoyed much in
> the homebrew community..just not the actual homebrew games..things
> like the homebrew apps,players,emus,ports,etc.
>
> the dc homebrew community is strongest in
> porting,emulation,applications for dc.
>
> they have some catching up to do in the actual gaming area.
>

Yeah, I know what you mean.

I just picked up Heavy Metal Geomatrix from Ebay yesterday. I still have Seaman,
Headhunter and a few other games I still wanna get :) Still not started D2 yet
though... I guess I'll play that once I finish off ZElda: Windwaker (Gamecube).


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...

#14912 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:47 am
Subject: Re: Last Hope (Neo Geo AES and Dreamcast)
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i did wanna mention how im alternatively enjoying my dc versus the
homebrew scene.i now focus on finding the many titles i never
played(and there is way more than enough to keep me busy on dc for
some time to come..),looking for the rare titles that dc had that many
might have overlooked,etc..dont get me wrong..i have enjoyed much in
the homebrew community..just not the actual homebrew games..things
like the homebrew apps,players,emus,ports,etc.

the dc homebrew community is strongest in
porting,emulation,applications for dc.

they have some catching up to do in the actual gaming area.




--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "curtis_ray_31"
<curtis_ray_31@...> wrote:
>
> i wasnt aware that it was a homebrew development team...that explains
> much then.i assumed they were actually working with a true development
> kit capable of producing high end games.
>
>
> and yes there are and have been GREAT 2D games.but NOT from the dc
> homebrew community...fair maybe..but not great.
>
>
> most dc homebrew is whack...and i dont consider emulation part of
> homebrew..so the great dc emus dont count.im speaking strictly of
> actual homebrew games..and the ones that were actually cool were
> nothing more than brief and unfinished demos.nor do i consider ports
> homebrew.so that leaves much to be desired from the homebrew community
> on dc.much is unfinished,never released,or just hype altogether.even
> the great emu dreamsnes was left incomplete at version 0.9.8.
>
> i wish this team well either way.if the experience of creating and
> releasing it makes them and a few dc owners happy..then all is good i
> guess.
>

#14911 From: "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
Date: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:34 am
Subject: Re: Last Hope (Neo Geo AES and Dreamcast)
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i wasnt aware that it was a homebrew development team...that explains
much then.i assumed they were actually working with a true development
kit capable of producing high end games.


and yes there are and have been GREAT 2D games.but NOT from the dc
homebrew community...fair maybe..but not great.


most dc homebrew is whack...and i dont consider emulation part of
homebrew..so the great dc emus dont count.im speaking strictly of
actual homebrew games..and the ones that were actually cool were
nothing more than brief and unfinished demos.nor do i consider ports
homebrew.so that leaves much to be desired from the homebrew community
on dc.much is unfinished,never released,or just hype altogether.even
the great emu dreamsnes was left incomplete at version 0.9.8.

i wish this team well either way.if the experience of creating and
releasing it makes them and a few dc owners happy..then all is good i
guess.

#14907 From: "Andrew D. Burton" <aliensrcooluk@...>
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:06 pm
Subject: Re: Last Hope (Neo Geo AES and Dreamcast)
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--- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com, "curtis_ray_31" <curtis_ray_31@...>
wrote:
>
> no offense to the development team.but from previous experience..i
> cant see spending my money on anything other than a 5 star rated dc
> title along the lines of what a top mainstream company would develop.
>
> something that would earn my 20 to 30 dollar purchase.
>
>
> definitely not a horizontal/vetical scroller...to much of the 2D/semi
> 2D stuff in the dc homebrew side of things must less from a mainstream
> or quasi-mainstream dev team.
>
> it almost seems like they have forgotten the dc can handle true 3D
> graphics.
>
>
> or just wanna make a cheap game for many buckaroo's..
>
> my dc is better than a simple 2D shooter...even if it has spiffy new
> effects in it...even if it never sees another new dc title,atleast it
> can revel in true 3D glory using its old software releases..
>
>
> but i understand some like the 2D stuff..and for them it will make a
> great release.i just wont be purchasing it..
>
>
> now if NG DevTeam wants to take on a 3D title whether it be a space
> shooter,action,rpg,etc..i would be more than interested..but for what
> my opinion is worth(which aint much i admit..lol..)...leave the 2D
> stuff to the homebrew community.god knows there is enough of that
> spooge being pumped out by them..
>
> ;)
>


Yes, but you forget a few things:


1) Sprite (2D) based games are easier and quicker to make.

2) Creating polygon models from scratch (plus the PVR textures) would take
atleast twice as long as it does to make the 2D games.

3) Creating polygon (3D) games is much much harder and would require alot more
resources than is currently available to the homebrew scene. For example
creating and converting polygon models and/or motion data to the DC's native
format would require official devkit's which are, technically, illegal for
anyone to own other than an official software developer which paid Sega for it
and a licensing aggreement.



I'm sure there are other reasons too... besides alot of great games are 2D -
either in visuals and/or in gameplay.


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...

#14906 From: SONICR <SONICR2@...>
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:10 am
Subject: Re: [DCBG] Re: Last Hope (Neo Geo AES and Dreamcast)
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I'd buy it, just like I plan to buy Beggar Prince
for Genesis. Better then no new games at least!
Plus the only reason the homebrew developers do
2D is because that's all they can really do
without a DC Development kit, any good 3D project
is too hard for most and would be very limited
without the kit.

--- curtis_ray_31 <curtis_ray_31@...>
wrote:

> no offense to the development team.but from
> previous experience..i
> cant see spending my money on anything other
> than a 5 star rated dc
> title along the lines of what a top mainstream
> company would develop.
>
> something that would earn my 20 to 30 dollar
> purchase.
>
>
> definitely not a horizontal/vetical
> scroller...to much of the 2D/semi
> 2D stuff in the dc homebrew side of things must
> less from a mainstream
> or quasi-mainstream dev team.
>
> it almost seems like they have forgotten the dc
> can handle true 3D
> graphics.
>
>
> or just wanna make a cheap game for many
> buckaroo's..
>
> my dc is better than a simple 2D shooter...even
> if it has spiffy new
> effects in it...even if it never sees another
> new dc title,atleast it
> can revel in true 3D glory using its old
> software releases..
>
>
> but i understand some like the 2D stuff..and
> for them it will make a
> great release.i just wont be purchasing it..
>
>
> now if NG DevTeam wants to take on a 3D title
> whether it be a space
> shooter,action,rpg,etc..i would be more than
> interested..but for what
> my opinion is worth(which aint much i
> admit..lol..)...leave the 2D
> stuff to the homebrew community.god knows there
> is enough of that
> spooge being pumped out by them..
>
> ;)
>
> --- In DreamcastBrowsers@yahoogroups.com,
> "Andrew D. Burton"
> <aliensrcooluk@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear members,
> >
> > The NG DevTeam have come up with a new game
> for the Neo Geo AES.
> They plan to port it to the Dreamcast (and one
> other platform). I have
> subscribed to the DC mailing list and will let
> you know when I have
> more info.
> >
> > The game is called Last Hope and is a
> side/vertical-scrolling
> shoot'em up featuring up to 4 layers of
> parrallax scrolling :) The
> visuals look great and I hope they get it
> ported pronto.
> >
> >
> > For more information visit the official
> website:
> >
> > http://lasthope.ngdevteam.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew B
> > aliensrcooluk@...
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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