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Topics in this digest:

1. a working offline html editor/ftp
From: cray25@...
2. Re:my bookmarklet editor and an html question
From: cray25@...
3. Re:my bookmarklet editor and an html question
From: insidious_plots@...
4. Re:a working offline html editor/ftp
From: insidious_plots@...
5. Re: Re:a working offline html editor/ftp
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
6. Re:my bookmarklet editor and an html question
From: insidious_plots@...
7. To Cari From Planetweb
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
8. Re: a working offline html editor/ftp
From: "christopher and mary" <insidious_plots@...>
9. Re:To Cari From Planetweb
From: insidious_plots@...
10. Re:Re: a working offline html editor/ftp
From: cray25@...
11. Re:Re: a working offline html editor/ftp
From: insidious_plots@...
12. Re:Re: a working offline html editor/ftp
From: cray25@...
13. To Cari From planetweb..
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
14. plots...!!!
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
15. anime and japanese culture
From: "nick hart" <ultimatedevilman@...>
16. Re:plots...!!!
From: insidious_plots@...
17. the site is completely begun...
From: insidious_plots@...
18. Re:plots...!!!
From: cray25@...
19. Re:plots...!!!
From: insidious_plots@...
20. Re:the site is completely begun...
From: cray25@...
21. Re:the site is completely begun...
From: insidious_plots@...
22. on your site
From: cray25@...
23. Re:on your site
From: insidious_plots@...
24. planetwebs biggest obstacle for us
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
25. Re:on your site
From: dezliz2k@...

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:57:49 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: a working offline html editor/ftp

ok,heres how it works,cut/paste this script
to your dp/dk bookmarks,save it. then
when ever you need to use it. just go online
and click it,once in the editor you can
disconnect,edit your html,cut the html,
re-connect,use my ftp link to send the edited
html to your hompage provider.

heres the script to cut/paste
to your bookmarks

JavaScript:document.write("<HTML><BODY bgcolor=DARKB
LUE text=GOLD link=WHITE vlink=LIGHTBLUE><CENTER>
HTML Editor<br><br><a href='x-avefront://---.dream/p
roc/menu/disconnect'>DisConnect</a><br><br><a href='
x-avefront://---.dream/proc/menu/connect'>Connect Th
en Use FTP<br><br><a href='http://newblood02.tripod.
com/ftp.html'>FTP</a></a><FORM><TEXTAREA= rows=10 Co
ls=35><html></FORM></AREA></CENTER></BODY></HTML>")

tell me what ya think.

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:58:49 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: Re:my bookmarklet editor and an html question

was it wide enough?

>
> um... 35 columns is what i already had it set to.
..
>
> and, i just heard back from dctv... i don't think
he's coming... dammi
> t... but, i am still trying to talk him into maki
ng the html builder fo
> r me...
>
>
>
> > try this is pretty wide..
> >
> > JavaScript:document.write("<HTML><BODY bgcolor=B
LACK
> > text=WHITE><CENTER>
> > Bookmarklet Editor For Use Only On Sega Dreamcas
t PW
> > /DP/DK<FORM><TEXTAREA= rows=10 Cols=35>javascrip
t:</
> > FORM></AREA></CENTER></BODY></HTML>")
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > JavaScript:document.write("<HTML><BODY bgcolor
=BLA
> > CK text=WHITE><CENTER>
> > > Bookmarklet Editor<FORM><TEXTAREA col=35 rows=
17>j
> > avascript:</FORM></ARE
> > > A></CENTER></BODY></HTML>")
> > >
> > >
> > > now, why won't it go wider than that???
> > > now matter what number i put in, it won't make
it
> > wider???
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:03:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:my bookmarklet editor and an html question

> was it wide enough?

well, i would like it wider...
but, no matter what number i use, it doesn't seem to get any wider...

it isn't even 35 i don't think... 35 is what i have my editor page set
to, so i set it to the same...

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:03:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:a working offline html editor/ftp

D'OH!!!

i hadn't noticed that to use a bookmarklet, it tries to connect you firs
t...
well, that's kinda' annoying...

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:07:34 -0400
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
Subject: Re: Re:a working offline html editor/ftp

nah,aint to bad though,main reason to even have it offline would be to
not tie up the phone..so its like just making a minute or two phone
call,then disconnecting to do your editing. then connecting to send it
on its way..not bad...could be worse! LOL..

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:my bookmarklet editor and an html question

i get it... you were right... i was wrong...
i did not notice the real diff between your script and mine... the "="
after the word TEXTAREA... my bad, dude...

> > was it wide enough?
>
>
> well, i would like it wider...
> but, no matter what number i use, it doesn't seem to get any wider...
>
> it isn't even 35 i don't think... 35 is what i have my editor page se
t
> to, so i set it to the same...
>

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:16:51 -0400
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
Subject: To Cari From Planetweb

Cari,Ive asked planetweb if they would share a few of the browser
commands with me several times to see if I could get some stuff
working on planetweb that would be fun. For instance,myself and
insidious plots have WORKING bookmarklets that allow for
html,email,etc to be edited offline after a short connect online. they
work on planetweb,the only problem is that the script we have are
suited to dp3/dreamkey..what would fix this problem is commands like
connect and disconnect,the ones when you click the phone icon on the
planetweb browser. in the working html editor i have codes that will
connect and disconnect the dp/dk browsers,but obviously these will not
work on planetweb,thus making the whole thing useless except for the
link to my ftp. everything works great except for those 2 items. Do
you think you could show a working demo to planetweb,and maybe
convince them this is a good thing???? If they would allow just
restrivted access to some of the codes we could offer TONS !
of script related stuff to planetweb users..heres a breif discription
on how it all would work for the planetweb user.

First I would put a <a href> Link to the script on my or plots
website,the planetweb user could click the link and thus save the
script to their bookmarks,anytime they would like to do editing,they
just open the bookmark and click the link to go to the editor which is
generated by the browser. There is 2 or 3 other methods that will work
just as well. Please try and help us with this. Thanks Curtis.

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 01:19:36 -0000
From: "christopher and mary" <insidious_plots@...>
Subject: Re: a working offline html editor/ftp

explain that again...
what are we ftp'ing here?
and, btw, when i hit 'upload' it did not work...

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:To Cari From Planetweb

you go boy...

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 22:06:49 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: Re:Re: a working offline html editor/ftp

the ftp button on my transloader wasnt
working? hmm,transloader does go down
for short periods,as far as ftping i meant
this script

JavaScript:document.write("<HTML><BODY bgcolor=BLACK
text=GOLD link=WHITE vlink=ORANGE><CENTER>
HTML Editor<br><br><a href='x-avefront://---.dream/p
roc/menu/disconnect'>DisConnect</a><br><br><a href='
x-avefront://---.dream/proc/menu/connect'>Connect Th
en Use FTP<br><br><a href='http://newblood02.tripod.
com/ftp.html'>FTP</a></a><FORM><TEXTAREA= rows=10 Co
ls=35><html></FORM></AREA></CENTER></BODY></HTML>")

> explain that again...
> what are we ftp'ing here?
> and, btw, when i hit 'upload' it did not work...
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:Re: a working offline html editor/ftp

> the ftp button on my transloader wasnt
> working? hmm,transloader does go down
> for short periods,as far as ftping i meant
> this script

well, just in case, it was the button that said 'upload' that didn't wor
k...

but, i used the script, and i was asking what we are ftp'ing?

i wrote out a script, then hit the ftp button, and it didn't bring the s
cript, and there is no file to move... just script in a text box... if
i can write a script there, then send that script to my account, have i
t make the actual html document, then re-paste and alter, then send aga
in, i want to know... it sounds faster than making a script in an html
editor, then making a new page, and posting all the script i just made i
nto it...

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 22:41:02 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: Re:Re: a working offline html editor/ftp

not that experienced yet LOL all the ftp
can do is move and copy pages,files.

> > the ftp button on my transloader wasnt
> > working? hmm,transloader does go down
> > for short periods,as far as ftping i meant
> > this script
>
> well, just in case, it was the button that said 'u
pload' that didn't wor
> k...
>
> but, i used the script, and i was asking what we a
re ftp'ing?
>
> i wrote out a script, then hit the ftp button, and
it didn't bring the s
> cript, and there is no file to move... just scrip
t in a text box... if
> i can write a script there, then send that script
to my account, have i
> t make the actual html document, then re-paste an
d alter, then send aga
> in, i want to know... it sounds faster than makin
g a script in an html
> editor, then making a new page, and posting all th
e script i just made i
> nto it...
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 23:08:17 -0400
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
Subject: To Cari From planetweb..

Here is a link to the first semi-working test editor(i forgot about
cut/paste that will be a obstacle on planetweb for now,maybe 3.0 will
have the function..i will solve this problem.)
http://www.angelfire.com/games3/pwvmu/pwtool.vmi

heres the others we found on a japanese users website..they
work...kinda on planetweb..they will at least load..thats the first
hurdle.
http://www.angelfire.com/games3/pwvmu/index.html

im sending this to the dreamcast@... mail list,moderator,would you
please forward this to Cari B. for me? Its a test file for use on
planetweb browsers..they load OFFLINE for use. i would like the
planetweb team to look at them and maybe give some pointers on how to
best give them functionality. (hint!!!! I NEED BROWSER CODES!!!! LOL)

just in case you guys at planetweb are clueless on these,heres the jist.
1.load to vmu
2.click the link in the browser bookmarks
3.see what happens...offline.

these have use

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 23:37:22 -0400
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
Subject: plots...!!!

heres how the japanese kid is getting the javascripts to load from the
bookmarks...it isnt neccacarily by putting the script in the "link"
line..its also by putting it in the line where you name the bookmarks.
reason i know this is because every script i tried to get to load on
planetweb after saving it to the vmu with dp/dk wouldnt load the
script...i put the script in the subject line and then saved it with
dp/dk and then loaded the vmu files i ftp'd to angelfire worked
then..interesting.

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 03:37:31 -0000
From: "nick hart" <ultimatedevilman@...>
Subject: anime and japanese culture

if youre interested in those things go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/japthings the more the merrirer

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:plots...!!!

that is very interesting...

i did notice a couple had the stuff in the title... that was how he was
making them work in the history... because the title contained the act
ual html... every page you visit of his offline tools embed themselves
in your history as you visit them... brilliant...

i was wondering if i could do that with the bookmarklets for planetwebbe
rs... since you have enabled them to have html history pages, if i just
put the script with a <a href> then, i was guesig they could click on it
from there... that is apossibility for making a 'toolbox'... like put
ting several search scripts together or something... that even sounds l
ike a way to make a toolki anyone could use... though, of course pw is
more limited in their javascript... but, i was thining of playing with
it...

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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:13:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: the site is completely begun...

NOW go to http://DCBookmarkletLab.cjb.net

and the real address is...
http://www.angelfire.com/dc/dcbookmarkletlab/Bookmarklets/DCBL-INDEX.htm
l

the new home is built... now, i start adding scripts... but, the found
ation is officially laid...

WHOO HOO!!

and, since it is no longer on my personal webspace, it will be possible
for others to collaborate... anyone interested needs to let me know...
for now, the big job is adding the scripts... and, it is a big job...
ESPECIALLY, adding all the scripts that don't work...

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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:23:50 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: Re:plots...!!!

its very possible,i already got one editor
going http://www.angelfire.com/games3/pwvmu/pwtool.v
mi

all they got to do is just save it and then load the
bookmarks and its there.

> that is very interesting...
>
> i did notice a couple had the stuff in the title..
. that was how he was
> making them work in the history... because the t
itle contained the act
> ual html... every page you visit of his offline t
ools embed themselves
> in your history as you visit them... brilliant...

>
> i was wondering if i could do that with the bookma
rklets for planetwebbe
> rs... since you have enabled them to have html hi
story pages, if i just
> put the script with a <a href> then, i was guesig
they could click on it
> from there... that is apossibility for making a
'toolbox'... like put
> ting several search scripts together or something.
.. that even sounds l
> ike a way to make a toolki anyone could use... th
ough, of course pw is
> more limited in their javascript... but, i was th
ining of playing with
> it...
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:plots...!!!

awesome...

> its very possible,i already got one editor
> going http://www.angelfire.com/games3/pwvmu/pwtool.v
> mi
>
> all they got to do is just save it and then load the
> bookmarks and its there.
>
> > that is very interesting...
> >
> > i did notice a couple had the stuff in the title..
> .. that was how he was
> > making them work in the history... because the t
> itle contained the act
> > ual html... every page you visit of his offline t
> ools embed themselves
> > in your history as you visit them... brilliant...
>
> >
> > i was wondering if i could do that with the bookma
> rklets for planetwebbe
> > rs... since you have enabled them to have html hi
> story pages, if i just
> > put the script with a <a href> then, i was guesig
> they could click on it
> > from there... that is apossibility for making a
> 'toolbox'... like put
> > ting several search scripts together or something.
> ... that even sounds l
> > ike a way to make a toolki anyone could use... th
> ough, of course pw is
> > more limited in their javascript... but, i was th
> ining of playing with
> > it...
> >
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:27:18 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: Re:the site is completely begun...

the design is cool,dude we got a cool setup
about to take place.

>
> NOW go to http://DCBookmarkletLab.cjb.net
>
> and the real address is...
> http://www.angelfire.com/dc/dcbookmarkletlab/Bookm
arklets/DCBL-INDEX.htm
> l
>
>
> the new home is built... now, i start adding scri
pts... but, the found
> ation is officially laid...
>
> WHOO HOO!!
>
> and, since it is no longer on my personal webspace
, it will be possible
> for others to collaborate... anyone interested ne
eds to let me know...
> for now, the big job is adding the scripts... and
, it is a big job...
> ESPECIALLY, adding all the scripts that don't work
...
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:28:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:the site is completely begun...

i have the first script up...
do you think i should change the size of the box to show the whole scrip
t or just have the one line like that???

btw, if you want to compare the two...

< http://www.angelfire.com/dc/dcbookmarkletlab/Bookmarklets/script001.ht
ml >

< http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/insidiousplots/dreamcastweb/bookmarklets/
CustomizableGoogle.html >

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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:42:19 -0400
From: cray25@...
Subject: on your site

on the pages with the scripts,where it says
download to vmu..you could make those the
way planetweb users get the script.
and let dp/dk users cut/paste to get it.

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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: insidious_plots@...
Subject: Re:on your site

> on the pages with the scripts,where it says
> download to vmu..you could make those the
> way planetweb users get the script.
> and let dp/dk users cut/paste to get it.

that's a good idea...
i can add something for the pw'ers to get it...
but, i can add that one for the scripts that will actually work on a pw.
. i am leaving the download feature for when i have that ability, thou
gh... if we find out which scripts can run on thepw, then i can add a l
ink to each one... but, first i have to know the ones that will work...
so, if someone tests them and lets me know, i can add it...

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 01:01:30 -0400
From: Curtis <cray25@...>
Subject: planetwebs biggest obstacle for us

> the ONLY problem with these editors on planetweb is NO
cut/paste...thats a bad problem,even if we do get something
working,and they use it,how will they keep what they create? they cant
move it. im gonna try a diffeent direction with planetweb..maybe try a
script that loads stuff from the browser or something...hopefully
planetweb will release 3.0 with cut/paste..it needs it BADLY. web
browsing isnt enough,people like a browser with fucntionality.

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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 05:18:06 -0000
From: dezliz2k@...
Subject: Re:on your site

" but, first i have to know the ones that will work...
so, if someone tests them and lets me know, i can add it..."

See, this is where owning most of the browsers from 1.0 to 2.6 would
have come in handy. If only I knew what the hell you guys were talking
about. LOL

I'll be a bit busy tomorrow but if the things you're suggesting are
simple to do with the PW browser, then explain it to me like you would
a 4 yr old, when you're not too busy and I'll test it out tomorrow
night. Remember, I'm in your yahoo group so I get all the emails in my
inbox. Just let me know.

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