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#2897 From: Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@...>
Date: Sun Jan 1, 2006 11:29 am
Subject: RE: Demelza-Stuck in Catacomb Ruins
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You will notice in the files download section of the forum that there is now a walk thru for Demelza. This should help through all the stages.
Regards,
Simon Jacobs
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Subject: [DragonBaneII] Demelza-Stuck in Catacomb Ruins

I can't figure out how to unlock the gate at 26,22 in Catacomb Ruins.
I pushed the button at 26,24....what does that button do?

Thanks in advance for the help!






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#2896 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:49 am
Subject: Re: Any News on Sudden Death?
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Sorry, no news.  Our PPC developer has been on vacation and said he
should be able to look at it in January.  I'll check back with him
first week of January.

Jason

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@m...> wrote:
>
> Any news on the Sudden Death bug in the PPC version of DB2?
>
> I am still able to make progress in the game, thanks to frequent
> saves.  I don't have a save position where I can repeat this, but I
> rencently fought a battle against a hydra, a couple of death knights,
> and a couple of corrupt mages.  Caleb, Unger, Heric, and Mordor all
> fell in turn to sudden death, leaving lonely old Poe and The Iqtar to
> finish the battle.
>
> Curious,
> Dale
>

#2895 From: "R H Gin" <rhgindc@...>
Date: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:26 pm
Subject: Demelza-Stuck in Catacomb Ruins
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I can't figure out how to unlock the gate at 26,22 in Catacomb Ruins.
I pushed the button at 26,24....what does that button do?

Thanks in advance for the help!

#2894 From: "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@...>
Date: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:22 pm
Subject: Any News on Sudden Death?
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Any news on the Sudden Death bug in the PPC version of DB2?

I am still able to make progress in the game, thanks to frequent
saves.  I don't have a save position where I can repeat this, but I
rencently fought a battle against a hydra, a couple of death knights,
and a couple of corrupt mages.  Caleb, Unger, Heric, and Mordor all
fell in turn to sudden death, leaving lonely old Poe and The Iqtar to
finish the battle.

Curious,
Dale

#2893 From: "lizard_weasel" <lizard@...>
Date: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
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I am running a Dell Axim x50v.  At the time I saw these errors I was
running Wm5.  Since then I have upgraded to PPC2003se, but have not
played the game, so I can't say the error will still occur.



--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
>
>
> To anyone who has seen this bug, and I think there are 4 reports of
> it, can you post or email us to say exactly what device you have?
>
> Jason
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ok, this last time the death happened, I decided to get creative.
> > I loaded my saved game and went into the encounter again. This
time,
> > once the first round was up and the Dragon Prince summoned his
> > elemental, I chose "Repeat" for my battle instruction, instead of
> > "Fight." The sudden death did NOT occur! Henceforth I was able to
> > continue choosing "Fight" and nobody died anymore.
> >
> > Situation was as usual: Caleb was in slot 1, Iqtar in slot 6, and
the
> > enemy had an elemental summoned.
> >
> > I hope this info helps the debug process.
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous
posts.
> > >  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was
that we
> > > needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
> > > monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence
of
> > > combat events leading up to the bug)
> > >
> > > However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has
been
> > > reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has
anyone
> > > seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?
> > >
> > > In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
> > > developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will
take a
> > > look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be
helpful to
> > > know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have
seen the
> > > exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described
above.
> > >
> > > We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean
time, I
> > > the only thing I can suggest is:
> > >
> > > - See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on
> the bug.
> > > - If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to
reproduce the
> > > bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to
avoid
> > > those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and
save more
> > > often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running
from
> > > those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
> > > scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or
defend or
> > > some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)
> > >
> > > Jason
> > > MythoLogical
> > >
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
<postingid01@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key.
I come
> > > > upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I
choose
> > > > "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
> > > >
> > > > This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough
mob for
> > > > me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a
> summoning at
> > > > least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince
right away.
> > > > Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an
> impass in
> > > > the game.
> > > >
> > > > Any word on a patch?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#2892 From: "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@...>
Date: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
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I've been corresponding directly with Jason on this, but I'll post
here as well for completeness.  I'm using an HP IPAQ HX2495, running
Windows CE 5.0, and DB2 version PPC 1.0.5.  In case anyone doesn't
know, for the IPAQ models the fourth digit represents whether the
product was sold directly by HP (0) or by a third party vendor (5).
So an HX2490 and an HX2495 are the exact same unit, but sold via
different sales channels.

Dale

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
>
>
> To anyone who has seen this bug, and I think there are 4 reports of
> it, can you post or email us to say exactly what device you have?
>
> Jason
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ok, this last time the death happened, I decided to get creative.
> > I loaded my saved game and went into the encounter again. This
time,
> > once the first round was up and the Dragon Prince summoned his
> > elemental, I chose "Repeat" for my battle instruction, instead of
> > "Fight." The sudden death did NOT occur! Henceforth I was able to
> > continue choosing "Fight" and nobody died anymore.
> >
> > Situation was as usual: Caleb was in slot 1, Iqtar in slot 6, and
the
> > enemy had an elemental summoned.
> >
> > I hope this info helps the debug process.
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous
posts.
> > >  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was
that we
> > > needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
> > > monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence
of
> > > combat events leading up to the bug)
> > >
> > > However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has
been
> > > reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has
anyone
> > > seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?
> > >
> > > In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
> > > developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will
take a
> > > look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be
helpful to
> > > know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have
seen the
> > > exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described
above.
> > >
> > > We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean
time, I
> > > the only thing I can suggest is:
> > >
> > > - See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on
> the bug.
> > > - If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to
reproduce the
> > > bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to
avoid
> > > those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and
save more
> > > often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running
from
> > > those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
> > > scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or
defend or
> > > some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)
> > >
> > > Jason
> > > MythoLogical
> > >
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
<postingid01@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key.
I come
> > > > upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I
choose
> > > > "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
> > > >
> > > > This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough
mob for
> > > > me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a
> summoning at
> > > > least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince
right away.
> > > > Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an
> impass in
> > > > the game.
> > > >
> > > > Any word on a patch?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#2891 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Fri Dec 9, 2005 9:42 am
Subject: WizardWorld Released!
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MythoLogical Software announces WizardWorld 1.0.0 for the Tapwave Zodiac.

WizardWorld is a 3D action/strategy game that places you in an
illusory realm controlled by a master wizard. In a test of skill and
wits, your goal is to manoever your "hull" to a vantage point where
you can see the dragon's thrown and dispell his illusionary dragon to
advance to the next level in a series of progressively more
challenging tests.

Along the way, you'll be hunted by traps and other summoned illusions,
so you'll want to take advantage of hiding places on the terrain and
special tokens that you can store in your inventory to invoke when you
get into a tight spot.

#2890 From: "feklhr666" <postingid01@...>
Date: Wed Dec 7, 2005 11:26 pm
Subject: Sudden Death on a Massive Scale
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I made it into the lair/palace/whatever (brass key, gate SW of NT)...
I go up against some Corrupt Mages who keep summoning creatures. I
finally wipe out the Mages and I'm on the last creature, and viola!
Caleb experiences sudden death.

Ok, I load my last saved game and go for it again.

This time, I encounter a Scorpion King who keeps summoning more
scorpions. Ok but this seems like a fun challenge.
BAM, I choose "fight" and Caleb dies. But this doesn't end there - for
the remaining rounds, regardless of whether I chose "Fight" or "Run,"
the next player in line dies. Again and again, until only Poe was
left, poor poisoned poe, and finally I manage to "Run" away. Now I
have a group of 5 DEAD players (by Running, Poe died too) wandering
like zombies through the dungeon with Iqtar trailing them like a
devoted puppy. After about 2 or 3 squares of movement, the game must
have woken up and thought "hey wait a second...!" and my game reverted
to a new starting game.

Here's a screeny, it is not the greatest quality, but I was on the
train and took the pic with my phone.

http://danspage.tallerworks.com/dragon_bane_ii_sudden_death.jpg

This was taken just prior to Poe getting killed with my final round
choice.

#2889 From: "feklhr666" <postingid01@...>
Date: Thu Dec 8, 2005 5:22 am
Subject: Can't progress because of sudden death
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Well, it has come to a point that whenever I encounter an enemy, Caleb
immediately dies!

I simply cannot play anymore, unless they come out with a patch to fix
this bug.

#2888 From: "toddkienitz" <tkienitz@...>
Date: Tue Dec 6, 2005 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
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I am using a Dell Axim X51v (WM5, ROM version A04).

Todd J. Kienitz


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...> wrote:
>
>
> To anyone who has seen this bug, and I think there are 4 reports of
> it, can you post or email us to say exactly what device you have?
>
> Jason
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ok, this last time the death happened, I decided to get creative.
> > I loaded my saved game and went into the encounter again. This time,
> > once the first round was up and the Dragon Prince summoned his
> > elemental, I chose "Repeat" for my battle instruction, instead of
> > "Fight." The sudden death did NOT occur! Henceforth I was able to
> > continue choosing "Fight" and nobody died anymore.
> >
> > Situation was as usual: Caleb was in slot 1, Iqtar in slot 6, and the
> > enemy had an elemental summoned.
> >
> > I hope this info helps the debug process.
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous
posts.
> > >  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was that we
> > > needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
> > > monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence of
> > > combat events leading up to the bug)
> > >
> > > However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has been
> > > reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has anyone
> > > seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?
> > >
> > > In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
> > > developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will
take a
> > > look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be helpful to
> > > know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have seen the
> > > exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described above.
> > >
> > > We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean
time, I
> > > the only thing I can suggest is:
> > >
> > > - See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on
> the bug.
> > > - If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to
reproduce the
> > > bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to avoid
> > > those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and
save more
> > > often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running from
> > > those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
> > > scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or defend or
> > > some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)
> > >
> > > Jason
> > > MythoLogical
> > >
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key.
I come
> > > > upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I
choose
> > > > "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
> > > >
> > > > This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough
mob for
> > > > me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a
> summoning at
> > > > least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince right
away.
> > > > Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an
> impass in
> > > > the game.
> > > >
> > > > Any word on a patch?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#2887 From: "feklhr666" <postingid01@...>
Date: Tue Dec 6, 2005 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
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I have an iPAQ HX2490 running Windows Mobile 5. Dragon Bane II is
running off a CF card.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...> wrote:
>
>
> To anyone who has seen this bug, and I think there are 4 reports of
> it, can you post or email us to say exactly what device you have?
>
> Jason
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ok, this last time the death happened, I decided to get creative.
> > I loaded my saved game and went into the encounter again. This time,
> > once the first round was up and the Dragon Prince summoned his
> > elemental, I chose "Repeat" for my battle instruction, instead of
> > "Fight." The sudden death did NOT occur! Henceforth I was able to
> > continue choosing "Fight" and nobody died anymore.
> >
> > Situation was as usual: Caleb was in slot 1, Iqtar in slot 6, and the
> > enemy had an elemental summoned.
> >
> > I hope this info helps the debug process.
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous
posts.
> > >  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was that we
> > > needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
> > > monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence of
> > > combat events leading up to the bug)
> > >
> > > However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has been
> > > reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has anyone
> > > seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?
> > >
> > > In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
> > > developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will
take a
> > > look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be helpful to
> > > know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have seen the
> > > exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described above.
> > >
> > > We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean
time, I
> > > the only thing I can suggest is:
> > >
> > > - See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on
> the bug.
> > > - If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to
reproduce the
> > > bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to avoid
> > > those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and
save more
> > > often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running from
> > > those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
> > > scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or defend or
> > > some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)
> > >
> > > Jason
> > > MythoLogical
> > >
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key.
I come
> > > > upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I
choose
> > > > "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
> > > >
> > > > This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough
mob for
> > > > me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a
> summoning at
> > > > least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince right
away.
> > > > Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an
> impass in
> > > > the game.
> > > >
> > > > Any word on a patch?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#2886 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Tue Dec 6, 2005 4:52 am
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
jlfreund
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To anyone who has seen this bug, and I think there are 4 reports of
it, can you post or email us to say exactly what device you have?

Jason

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...> wrote:
>
> Ok, this last time the death happened, I decided to get creative.
> I loaded my saved game and went into the encounter again. This time,
> once the first round was up and the Dragon Prince summoned his
> elemental, I chose "Repeat" for my battle instruction, instead of
> "Fight." The sudden death did NOT occur! Henceforth I was able to
> continue choosing "Fight" and nobody died anymore.
>
> Situation was as usual: Caleb was in slot 1, Iqtar in slot 6, and the
> enemy had an elemental summoned.
>
> I hope this info helps the debug process.
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...> wrote:
> >
> > I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous posts.
> >  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was that we
> > needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
> > monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence of
> > combat events leading up to the bug)
> >
> > However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has been
> > reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has anyone
> > seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?
> >
> > In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
> > developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will take a
> > look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be helpful to
> > know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have seen the
> > exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described above.
> >
> > We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean time, I
> > the only thing I can suggest is:
> >
> > - See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on
the bug.
> > - If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to reproduce the
> > bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to avoid
> > those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and save more
> > often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running from
> > those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
> > scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or defend or
> > some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)
> >
> > Jason
> > MythoLogical
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key. I come
> > > upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I choose
> > > "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
> > >
> > > This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough mob for
> > > me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a
summoning at
> > > least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince right away.
> > > Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an
impass in
> > > the game.
> > >
> > > Any word on a patch?
> > >
> >
>

#2885 From: "feklhr666" <postingid01@...>
Date: Mon Dec 5, 2005 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
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Ok, this last time the death happened, I decided to get creative.
I loaded my saved game and went into the encounter again. This time,
once the first round was up and the Dragon Prince summoned his
elemental, I chose "Repeat" for my battle instruction, instead of
"Fight." The sudden death did NOT occur! Henceforth I was able to
continue choosing "Fight" and nobody died anymore.

Situation was as usual: Caleb was in slot 1, Iqtar in slot 6, and the
enemy had an elemental summoned.

I hope this info helps the debug process.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...> wrote:
>
> I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous posts.
>  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was that we
> needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
> monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence of
> combat events leading up to the bug)
>
> However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has been
> reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has anyone
> seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?
>
> In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
> developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will take a
> look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be helpful to
> know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have seen the
> exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described above.
>
> We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean time, I
> the only thing I can suggest is:
>
> - See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on the bug.
> - If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to reproduce the
> bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to avoid
> those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and save more
> often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running from
> those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
> scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or defend or
> some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)
>
> Jason
> MythoLogical
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
wrote:
> >
> > This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key. I come
> > upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I choose
> > "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
> >
> > This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough mob for
> > me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a summoning at
> > least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince right away.
> > Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an impass in
> > the game.
> >
> > Any word on a patch?
> >
>

#2884 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Sun Dec 4, 2005 9:12 am
Subject: Re: Sudden Death Again!
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I should've added "MythoLogical" after my name on the previous posts.
  I have reviewed the bug and the status when I left off was that we
needed more details about how to reproduce it (ie what are the
monsters, quantities, distances, and what is the exact sequence of
combat events leading up to the bug)

However, Gabe pointed out that we don't know if this bug has been
reproduced on the Palm (all of my testing is Palm only).  Has anyone
seen this bug _for sure_ on the Palm (or Palm Emulator)?

In any case, we just forwarded the bug description to our PPC
developer today, in case it's a PPC-only bug, so maybe he will take a
look at it, but I can't guarantee anything.  But it'd be helpful to
know if anyone on the Palm can say with certainty they have seen the
exact same symptom occur in similar circumstances described above.

We'll keep you posted if there is anything more.  In the mean time, I
the only thing I can suggest is:

- See if swapping positions of the characters has any effect on the bug.
- If you are able to isolate the exact circumstances to reproduce the
bug better, please let us know.  And if you do, you can try to avoid
those situations as much as possible.  For example: load and save more
often until you get past the offending monsters.  Try running from
those situations.  And if you have to fight, try to avoid combat
scenarios that will lead to the bug (maybe a near foe, or defend or
some other action can reduce the chance it will occur)

Jason
MythoLogical

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...> wrote:
>
> This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key. I come
> upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I choose
> "Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.
>
> This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough mob for
> me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a summoning at
> least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince right away.
> Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an impass in
> the game.
>
> Any word on a patch?
>

#2883 From: "feklhr666" <postingid01@...>
Date: Sun Dec 4, 2005 2:34 am
Subject: Sudden Death Again!
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This time in lower level of sewer after using the scaled key. I come
upon the Dragon Prince, he summons an elemental, next round I choose
"Fight" and Caleb is suddenly dead.

This is getting truly annoying. Since this is a fairly tough mob for
me at this point in the game, chances are there will be a summoning at
least once unless I can manage to kill the dragon prince right away.
Seems I will always encounter the same glitch, so I'm at an impass in
the game.

Any word on a patch?

#2882 From: "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@...>
Date: Fri Dec 2, 2005 4:28 pm
Subject: Sudden Death - FYI
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No one here mentioned having sent a report to Mythological regarding
this sudden death issue.  Maybe someone did but just didn't mention it
here.  In any case, I went ahead and sent them a report at their
support e-mail address, along with the same save file that I earlier
uploaded to this forum.  I'll keep you posted when I hear something
from them.

Dale

#2881 From: "A Hobby That Pays, Inc." <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...>
Date: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for prison key: return of kra'an
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Hi,

See the below URLs for the walkthrough. The first is for a message
(Note 1). If it does not display correctly, the second is for a
download (Note 2).

William

Note 1)

Message:

///////////////////////////////////////////////

( http://tinyurl.com/4wazy )

or

( http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/1674 )

///////////////////////////////////////////////

Note 2)

File to download:

///////////////////////////////////////////////

"Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) walkthrough

( http://tinyurl.com/5n76f )

or

(
http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/files/Walkthrus/
)

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--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Sng Boon Seng"
<Albert_SNG@n...> wrote:
> I'm stucked in the Goblin Prison 2.
> After answering the questions at (1,2) I was transported to
(21,13). I
> should be looking for the prison key but i have no clue where it is.
> Appreciate any form of help.
> Thanks!

#2880 From: "Albert Sng Boon Seng" <Albert_SNG@...>
Date: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:16 am
Subject: Looking for prison key: return of kra'an
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Hi,

I'm stucked in the Goblin Prison 2.
After answering the questions at (1,2) I was transported to (21,13). I
should be looking for the prison key but i have no clue where it is.
Appreciate any form of help.
Thanks!

#2879 From: Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@...>
Date: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:04 am
Subject: RE: RE: New Dragon Bane II Adventure
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OK so when is Beowilid coming out?

Regards,
Simon Jacobs

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Hi,

When you enter the grav lift to the student shops you automatically go to street
level.  At street level you have the choice of exiting or going to the student
shops.

Next version (1.0.4.10?), I might just remove the choice and treat it like a
regular tube way (teleport).

Originally the adventure was large like "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK), and called
Grimflaed (ATGA) after the planet.  Grimflaed was for characters circle 1- 15
with bonus levels for circle 17 & 27 characters (a circle is a character
level).  Programming Grimflaed is taking too long.  Grimflaed has been broken
up into two smaller adventures, Saexgryth (ATSA) and Beowilid: Saexgryth Pt 2
(ATBA).  Saexgryth is for characters circle 1- 10 and Beowilid is for
characters circle 10- 15 with bonus levels for circle 17 & 27 characters.

Thank you.  I am glad you like the game.

-William


Quoting Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@...>:

> Thanks William. So what about grimflaed, is that a sequel to Saexgryth you
> are working on? By the way I have started playing the new version. Noticed 1
> little bug, when taking the lift to the dorms it says "down" but if you
> catch the lift back up again to ground level it still says "down". Maybe
> needs another local state controling going up. Otherwise great game so far!!
>
> Simon.

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#2878 From: "A Hobby That Pays, Inc." <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:37 pm
Subject: RE: New Dragon Bane II Adventure
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Hi,

When you enter the grav lift to the student shops you automatically go to street
level.  At street level you have the choice of exiting or going to the student
shops.

Next version (1.0.4.10?), I might just remove the choice and treat it like a
regular tube way (teleport).

Originally the adventure was large like "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK), and called
Grimflaed (ATGA) after the planet.  Grimflaed was for characters circle 1- 15
with bonus levels for circle 17 & 27 characters (a circle is a character
level).  Programming Grimflaed is taking too long.  Grimflaed has been broken
up into two smaller adventures, Saexgryth (ATSA) and Beowilid: Saexgryth Pt 2
(ATBA).  Saexgryth is for characters circle 1- 10 and Beowilid is for
characters circle 10- 15 with bonus levels for circle 17 & 27 characters.

Thank you.  I am glad you like the game.

-William


Quoting Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@...>:

> Thanks William. So what about grimflaed, is that a sequel to Saexgryth you
> are working on? By the way I have started playing the new version. Noticed 1
> little bug, when taking the lift to the dorms it says "down" but if you
> catch the lift back up again to ground level it still says "down". Maybe
> needs another local state controling going up. Otherwise great game so far!!
>
> Simon.

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#2877 From: "A Hobby That Pays, Inc." <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: New Dragon Bane II Adventure
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Hi,

Originally, the demo version of "Beta Saexgryth" included only 4 color grayscale
graphics.  The PPC is not designed for grayscale and crashed the PDA.

While we plan to release a grascale version of Saexgryth 1.0.4 for the Palm OS,
we have currently released the 256 color version.

We are told that the 256 color version runs fine on the PPC by our focus group.
We do not have any PPCs to test this on.

The first half of Saexgryth 1.0.4, until you defeat the Snap Dragon+ and
retrieve the RED GLO SOUTH PASS* (a key), is free.  Go ahead and play it.
There is no reason to pay for the second half if you do not like the first
half.

-William

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Quoting styskul <epankoke@...>:

> That's what I would have suspected, but I thought I remembered reading
> one time where that wasn't always the case.
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...> wrote:
> >
> > All adventure files (and save game files) should be interchanchable on
> > any platform.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Pankoke" <epankoke@c...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm positive I asked this before, but does this adventure not work on
> > > the PPC version of Dragon Bane II?  I'd really like to pay it, but I
> > > don't want to shell out another $25 first to get the Palm version of a
> > > game I already own.
> > >
> > > Eric Pankoke
> > > Founder
> > > Point Of Light Software
> > > http://www.polsoftware.com/

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#2876 From: "A Hobby That Pays, Inc." <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sudden Death?
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Hi,

I tried running the saved game file in POSE and got the following:

"The creation date in the database header inside "DrgSaveMSRK" is zero.

The Emulator does not consider this to be a problem, and neither does the Palm
OS.  However, some versions of HotSync will test for this condition and report
an error, so you may wish to fix the database before trying to install it on a
device."

Also, when I load saved game 1, the bottom half of the screen is okay.  However,
for the top half, I get a picture of Heric and the following menu:

SELECT AN

INVENTORY

ITEM

When I load saved game 8, the bottom half of the screen is okay.  However, for
the top half, I get a picture of Caleb and the following menu:

CALEB

KNIGHT


(STATISTICS)


(INVENTORY)

Both of these issues go away when you refresh the screen.

Except for those non-important issues, when I run it in POSE, I have no
glitches.  I tried the first fight after the troll teleporter over and over for
an hour with no result.  Then I played the game for 6 hours, stopping when I got
the Eye of Soli.  I will be buying a new PDA for christmas, after I get it, I
can try the saved game on my old Palm m500.

-William


Quoting Dale Alan Beitz <muza@...>:

> OK, I uploaded the save file.  It's in \Files\DB2 Saved Games\MSRK
> Saved Games, and the description is "PPC 1.0.5 Save Before Sudden
> Death of Caleb".  If you restore the entry labelled "Talon Cloister
> Sewe", the party will be standing just outside the king's residence
> in New Treleon.  Enter the teleporter, and you'll be at the troll's
> teleporter in the Talon Cloiser sewer.  Head toward the bronze key
> door at (2,24).  My experience has been that in the first battle you
> engage in, no matter where it happens or what you're fighting, Caleb
> has about a 50/50 chance of dying inexplicably.  And it always
> happens in the first "round".  So if you complete the first round of
> combat and Caleb is still alive, finish the battle, reset, and try
> again.  Or keep playing if you want - maybe it will happen in a later
> battle, but that hasn't happened with me.
>
> Good luck!
> Dale

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#2875 From: "A Hobby That Pays, Inc." <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:37 pm
Subject: Version 1.0.4.9
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Hi,

The latest version of Saexgryth(tm) is 1.0.4.9 which clarifies the following
item names:

was REVIVE WAND now R'SENTRY WAND
was SEAL-REVIVE now SEAL-R'SENTRY
was SEAL-SQUARE now SEAL-D'SQUARE

In addition, flavor text has been added to some permanent items, for example:

was NECKLACE AC 2! now GOLD TORC AC 2!
was AURA HP 9* now NEON AURA HP 9*

was TORSO 1 WEAVE now COVERT T1 WEAVE
was LGS 2 WEAVE now SCOUT L2 WEAVE
was HOOD 3 FLEX now DRAGOON H3 FLEX

was PISTOL 2=7 now DERRINGER 2=7
was PISTOL 4=8 now FORELIMB GUN 4=18
was RIFLE 7=39 now CARBINE 7=39

was CLUB LT <8 now BATON <8
was CLUB MD <14 now TONFA <14
was CLUB HV <23 now MORPH 1/4 STAFF <23

All game mechanics are the same.

-William

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#2874 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:40 am
Subject: Re: Sudden Death?
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I tried again with various sets of Lizard Summoners, and still can't
get it.  If anyone can repro, it would really help to know exactly
what the configuration is (number, distance, type of each monster) and
  the battle sequence.

Jason

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "lizard_weasel" <lizard@n...> wrote:
>
> I also have this problem in the Princess Demelza adventure.  I have
> discovered that this happens only when I encounter a creature that
> attacks from far away, like a Lizard Summoner or Scorpion King.  Not
> only will the 1st member of your party die, but so will the 2nd if
> you don't kill the creature during that round.
>
> I find it happens all over the adventure, not in any specific place.
>
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@m...>
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I uploaded the save file.  It's in \Files\DB2 Saved Games\MSRK
> > Saved Games, and the description is "PPC 1.0.5 Save Before Sudden
> > Death of Caleb".  If you restore the entry labelled "Talon Cloister
> > Sewe", the party will be standing just outside the king's residence
> > in New Treleon.  Enter the teleporter, and you'll be at the troll's
> > teleporter in the Talon Cloiser sewer.  Head toward the bronze key
> > door at (2,24).  My experience has been that in the first battle
> you
> > engage in, no matter where it happens or what you're fighting,
> Caleb
> > has about a 50/50 chance of dying inexplicably.  And it always
> > happens in the first "round".  So if you complete the first round
> of
> > combat and Caleb is still alive, finish the battle, reset, and try
> > again.  Or keep playing if you want - maybe it will happen in a
> later
> > battle, but that hasn't happened with me.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Dale
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the detailed report.  Can you post that save game to
> the
> > forum
> > > Files section?  Maybe someone on a Palm OS device can try to
> repeat
> > your
> > > steps and we can find out if the bug is specific to Win Mobile.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also note there is a History command in battle - at least in the
> > Palm
> > > version, you can get to it using the application menu (not the in-
> > game menu,
> > > but the OS title bar menu).  That way you can double check the
> text
> > that
> > > played in the most recent battle to see if there is a note about
> > Caleb
> > > getting hit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, maybe the person who originally reported this problem - if
> > you're
> > > reading, can you say where in the game it happened?  If it also
> > happened in
> > > the same map and against the same bad guys or similar bad guys,
> > that would
> > > be a clue.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Dale Alan Beitz
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:53 AM
> > > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: Sudden Death?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had an incident of "sudden death" last night.  Unfortunately, I
> > > hadn't read this thread yet so I didn't know how to document the
> > > situation to send in to Mythological. I'm playing Version 1.0.5
> PPC
> > > on an IPAQ HX2495 with Windows CE 5.0.  I was in the sewer under
> > > Talon Cloister, had just gone through the door requiring the
> bronze
> > > key, and faced either a party of Eagle guards, or a lizard
> summoner
> > > and lizards. I've had it happen facing either group. In the first
> > > round of battle after encountering the "bad guys", Caleb dies
> with
> > > full hit points.  I didn't see any message indicating that
> anything
> > > had hit him.  And as I recall, Eagle guards don't use magic, so
> > there
> > > shouldn't have been any chance of anything other than a physical
> > > attack in that case.  Which means either Caleb took 50 HP of
> damage
> > > from the baddies (Caleb apparently dies with full HP, which is
> > > currently 50) and the game didn't display the HP correctly, or
> > > there's a glitch in the game causing the death.  The rest of the
> > > party (in order) consisted of Unger, Heric, Mordor, and Poe, with
> > > nobody in slot 6.
> > >
> > > I have a save position just before this at the troll's
> teleporter,
> > > and have replayed from this save point several times. About half
> > the
> > > time Caleb inexplicably dies in the first battle after I teleport
> > > back to the sewer, no matter where the battle occurs and no
> matter
> > > what monsters they face, and about half the time he doesn't.
> > >
> > > I'll try and document this next time it happens.
> > >
> > > Dale
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
> <postingid01@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Come to think of it, I do believe I had an elemental in slot 6.
> > > > I avoided a few fights, and it has not happened since.
> > > >
> > > > I'll photograph it if it happens again.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "A Hobby That Pays, Inc."
> > > > <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@z...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not work for Mythological Software or Mighty Mighty Good
> > > Games.
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds strange that you can be dead with full
> hitpoints.
> > > When this
> > > > > happens, do you have an elemental in slot six of the party?
> > > > >
> > > > > For game reasons, you cannot save the game during combat.
> > However
> > > > when you exit
> > > > > the program, it should save a temporary copy, even during
> > combat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two ways you can document this bug.  One, immediately when it
> > > > happens, stop
> > > > > playing Dragon Bane II "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) and exit the
> > > > program.  When
> > > > > you next synchronize your PPC, copy the MSRK saved game file
> and
> > > > email it to
> > > > > the appropriate people.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two, when it happens stop, but do not exit the program.  Get
> a
> > > video
> > > > camera/
> > > > > digital camera with video mode and make a video of your
> screen.
> > > > Before making
> > > > > the video, click on the menu -> options -> preferences.  For
> > > > preferences select
> > > > > Combat Scroll Speed = Slowest, make sure Smooth Combat Scroll
> > > Text is an
> > > > > unchecked box.  While making the video, click on the menu ->
> > > options
> > > > -> last
> > > > > message.  If you exit the program, the Last Message buffer is
> > > purged.
> > > > >
> > > > > -William
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting feklhr666 <postingid01@>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well it just happened several times in a row. It usually
> > happens
> > > > > > immediately after a foe has advanced or summoned a
> creature,
> > > and my
> > > > > > lead character chooses "attack" he is immediately dead.
> > > > >
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
> > > <postingid01@t...>
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#2873 From: "lizard_weasel" <lizard@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:14 am
Subject: Re: Sudden Death?
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As I said previously, this has happened to me multiple times against
several creatures.  I do not have Wizard Wall.  When the Summoner or
Scorpion King appears at 20-30', I typically cast near foe with
Caleb, and attack with the next 3 characters which all have bows.
Defend with the last one.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
wrote:
>
> I downloaded the save game and it plays fine on the Palm version.  I
> went to the door at 2,24 and walked around a little while until I
> encountered something.  I fought for a couple rounds then ran and
> didn't get the bug.
>
> I also tried walking around some more and encountered about 5
> different groups.  Each time, I fought a few rounds and ran, but
never
> got the bug.
>
> Finally, using a special debug version of the game, I could
construct
> scenarios with lizard summoners at various distances, with and
without
> an elemental (Wizard Wall) in the party.  Each time, I played a few
> rounds and gave up without encountering the bug.
>
> Can anyone else help to reproduce this?  It would help a lot if you
> knew exactly what happened before it occurred so I can try to setup
> that scenario.  Did you have a WizardWall?  Exactly what monsters
were
> you fighting (including quantity, and distances)?  What attack
> commands did you issue, and what attacks did the enemy do?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@m...>
wrote:
> >
> > OK, I uploaded the save file.  It's in \Files\DB2 Saved
Games\MSRK
> > Saved Games, and the description is "PPC 1.0.5 Save Before Sudden
> > Death of Caleb".  If you restore the entry labelled "Talon
Cloister
> > Sewe", the party will be standing just outside the king's
residence
> > in New Treleon.  Enter the teleporter, and you'll be at the
troll's
> > teleporter in the Talon Cloiser sewer.  Head toward the bronze
key
> > door at (2,24).  My experience has been that in the first battle
you
> > engage in, no matter where it happens or what you're fighting,
Caleb
> > has about a 50/50 chance of dying inexplicably.  And it always
> > happens in the first "round".  So if you complete the first round
of
> > combat and Caleb is still alive, finish the battle, reset, and
try
> > again.  Or keep playing if you want - maybe it will happen in a
later
> > battle, but that hasn't happened with me.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Dale
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the detailed report.  Can you post that save game to
the
> > forum
> > > Files section?  Maybe someone on a Palm OS device can try to
repeat
> > your
> > > steps and we can find out if the bug is specific to Win Mobile.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also note there is a History command in battle - at least in
the
> > Palm
> > > version, you can get to it using the application menu (not the
in-
> > game menu,
> > > but the OS title bar menu).  That way you can double check the
text
> > that
> > > played in the most recent battle to see if there is a note
about
> > Caleb
> > > getting hit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, maybe the person who originally reported this problem -
if
> > you're
> > > reading, can you say where in the game it happened?  If it also
> > happened in
> > > the same map and against the same bad guys or similar bad guys,
> > that would
> > > be a clue.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Dale Alan Beitz
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:53 AM
> > > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: Sudden Death?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had an incident of "sudden death" last night.  Unfortunately,
I
> > > hadn't read this thread yet so I didn't know how to document
the
> > > situation to send in to Mythological. I'm playing Version 1.0.5
PPC
> > > on an IPAQ HX2495 with Windows CE 5.0.  I was in the sewer
under
> > > Talon Cloister, had just gone through the door requiring the
bronze
> > > key, and faced either a party of Eagle guards, or a lizard
summoner
> > > and lizards. I've had it happen facing either group. In the
first
> > > round of battle after encountering the "bad guys", Caleb dies
with
> > > full hit points.  I didn't see any message indicating that
anything
> > > had hit him.  And as I recall, Eagle guards don't use magic, so
> > there
> > > shouldn't have been any chance of anything other than a
physical
> > > attack in that case.  Which means either Caleb took 50 HP of
damage
> > > from the baddies (Caleb apparently dies with full HP, which is
> > > currently 50) and the game didn't display the HP correctly, or
> > > there's a glitch in the game causing the death.  The rest of
the
> > > party (in order) consisted of Unger, Heric, Mordor, and Poe,
with
> > > nobody in slot 6.
> > >
> > > I have a save position just before this at the troll's
teleporter,
> > > and have replayed from this save point several times. About
half
> > the
> > > time Caleb inexplicably dies in the first battle after I
teleport
> > > back to the sewer, no matter where the battle occurs and no
matter
> > > what monsters they face, and about half the time he doesn't.
> > >
> > > I'll try and document this next time it happens.
> > >
> > > Dale
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
<postingid01@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Come to think of it, I do believe I had an elemental in slot
6.
> > > > I avoided a few fights, and it has not happened since.
> > > >
> > > > I'll photograph it if it happens again.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "A Hobby That Pays, Inc."
> > > > <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@z...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not work for Mythological Software or Mighty Mighty
Good
> > > Games.
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds strange that you can be dead with full
hitpoints.
> > > When this
> > > > > happens, do you have an elemental in slot six of the party?
> > > > >
> > > > > For game reasons, you cannot save the game during combat.
> > However
> > > > when you exit
> > > > > the program, it should save a temporary copy, even during
> > combat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two ways you can document this bug.  One, immediately when
it
> > > > happens, stop
> > > > > playing Dragon Bane II "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) and exit
the
> > > > program.  When
> > > > > you next synchronize your PPC, copy the MSRK saved game
file and
> > > > email it to
> > > > > the appropriate people.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two, when it happens stop, but do not exit the program.
Get a
> > > video
> > > > camera/
> > > > > digital camera with video mode and make a video of your
screen.
> > > > Before making
> > > > > the video, click on the menu -> options -> preferences.  For
> > > > preferences select
> > > > > Combat Scroll Speed = Slowest, make sure Smooth Combat
Scroll
> > > Text is an
> > > > > unchecked box.  While making the video, click on the menu -
>
> > > options
> > > > -> last
> > > > > message.  If you exit the program, the Last Message buffer
is
> > > purged.
> > > > >
> > > > > -William
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting feklhr666 <postingid01@>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well it just happened several times in a row. It usually
> > happens
> > > > > > immediately after a foe has advanced or summoned a
creature,
> > > and my
> > > > > > lead character chooses "attack" he is immediately dead.
> > > > >
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
> > > <postingid01@t...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Version 1.0.5 PPC
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Occasionally, within a battle, one of my characters
(so
> > far,
> > > > it has
> > > > > > > > only been my lead) will suddenly become labeled DEAD.
He
> > may
> > > > not even
> > > > > > > > have been hit, and still has all his HPs, he's just
> > > > suddenly... dead!
> > > > > =
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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#2872 From: "lizard_weasel" <lizard@...>
Date: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:10 am
Subject: Re: Sudden Death?
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I also have this problem in the Princess Demelza adventure.  I have
discovered that this happens only when I encounter a creature that
attacks from far away, like a Lizard Summoner or Scorpion King.  Not
only will the 1st member of your party die, but so will the 2nd if
you don't kill the creature during that round.

I find it happens all over the adventure, not in any specific place.


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@m...>
wrote:
>
> OK, I uploaded the save file.  It's in \Files\DB2 Saved Games\MSRK
> Saved Games, and the description is "PPC 1.0.5 Save Before Sudden
> Death of Caleb".  If you restore the entry labelled "Talon Cloister
> Sewe", the party will be standing just outside the king's residence
> in New Treleon.  Enter the teleporter, and you'll be at the troll's
> teleporter in the Talon Cloiser sewer.  Head toward the bronze key
> door at (2,24).  My experience has been that in the first battle
you
> engage in, no matter where it happens or what you're fighting,
Caleb
> has about a 50/50 chance of dying inexplicably.  And it always
> happens in the first "round".  So if you complete the first round
of
> combat and Caleb is still alive, finish the battle, reset, and try
> again.  Or keep playing if you want - maybe it will happen in a
later
> battle, but that hasn't happened with me.
>
> Good luck!
> Dale
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the detailed report.  Can you post that save game to
the
> forum
> > Files section?  Maybe someone on a Palm OS device can try to
repeat
> your
> > steps and we can find out if the bug is specific to Win Mobile.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also note there is a History command in battle - at least in the
> Palm
> > version, you can get to it using the application menu (not the in-
> game menu,
> > but the OS title bar menu).  That way you can double check the
text
> that
> > played in the most recent battle to see if there is a note about
> Caleb
> > getting hit.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, maybe the person who originally reported this problem - if
> you're
> > reading, can you say where in the game it happened?  If it also
> happened in
> > the same map and against the same bad guys or similar bad guys,
> that would
> > be a clue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Dale Alan Beitz
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:53 AM
> > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: Sudden Death?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had an incident of "sudden death" last night.  Unfortunately, I
> > hadn't read this thread yet so I didn't know how to document the
> > situation to send in to Mythological. I'm playing Version 1.0.5
PPC
> > on an IPAQ HX2495 with Windows CE 5.0.  I was in the sewer under
> > Talon Cloister, had just gone through the door requiring the
bronze
> > key, and faced either a party of Eagle guards, or a lizard
summoner
> > and lizards. I've had it happen facing either group. In the first
> > round of battle after encountering the "bad guys", Caleb dies
with
> > full hit points.  I didn't see any message indicating that
anything
> > had hit him.  And as I recall, Eagle guards don't use magic, so
> there
> > shouldn't have been any chance of anything other than a physical
> > attack in that case.  Which means either Caleb took 50 HP of
damage
> > from the baddies (Caleb apparently dies with full HP, which is
> > currently 50) and the game didn't display the HP correctly, or
> > there's a glitch in the game causing the death.  The rest of the
> > party (in order) consisted of Unger, Heric, Mordor, and Poe, with
> > nobody in slot 6.
> >
> > I have a save position just before this at the troll's
teleporter,
> > and have replayed from this save point several times. About half
> the
> > time Caleb inexplicably dies in the first battle after I teleport
> > back to the sewer, no matter where the battle occurs and no
matter
> > what monsters they face, and about half the time he doesn't.
> >
> > I'll try and document this next time it happens.
> >
> > Dale
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
<postingid01@t...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Come to think of it, I do believe I had an elemental in slot 6.
> > > I avoided a few fights, and it has not happened since.
> > >
> > > I'll photograph it if it happens again.
> > >
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "A Hobby That Pays, Inc."
> > > <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@z...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I do not work for Mythological Software or Mighty Mighty Good
> > Games.
> > > >
> > > > That sounds strange that you can be dead with full
hitpoints.
> > When this
> > > > happens, do you have an elemental in slot six of the party?
> > > >
> > > > For game reasons, you cannot save the game during combat.
> However
> > > when you exit
> > > > the program, it should save a temporary copy, even during
> combat.
> > > >
> > > > Two ways you can document this bug.  One, immediately when it
> > > happens, stop
> > > > playing Dragon Bane II "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) and exit the
> > > program.  When
> > > > you next synchronize your PPC, copy the MSRK saved game file
and
> > > email it to
> > > > the appropriate people.
> > > >
> > > > Two, when it happens stop, but do not exit the program.  Get
a
> > video
> > > camera/
> > > > digital camera with video mode and make a video of your
screen.
> > > Before making
> > > > the video, click on the menu -> options -> preferences.  For
> > > preferences select
> > > > Combat Scroll Speed = Slowest, make sure Smooth Combat Scroll
> > Text is an
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#2871 From: Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@...>
Date: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:34 pm
Subject: RE: New Dragon Bane II Adventure
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Thanks William. So what about grimflaed, is that a sequel to Saexgryth you are working on? By the way I have started playing the new version. Noticed 1 little bug, when taking the lift to the dorms it says "down" but if you catch the lift back up again to ground level it still says "down". Maybe needs another local state controling going up. Otherwise great game so far!!
 
Simon.
 
 

Regards,
Simon Jacobs

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To: DragonBaneII-yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DragonBaneII] New Dragon Bane II Adventure

Hi Simon,

Your license key for Saexgryth is still valid with the latest release.  Do not
pay for Saexgryth.  Paying for Saexgryth will simply give you the license key
again.

New players need to download the file once.  After they play the first half for
free (thus making sure it works with their hardware), they will then purchase a
license key from ( www.palmgear.com ).

Your version 1.0.3 saved game will not work.  If you upgrade to 1.0.4.8 you will
get a "corrupt file" error and it will erase your saved game.  Several of the
items in 1.0.4.8 are different from version 1.0.3, especially I'FIELDs.

You have at least two options:
A) continue playing your current game, and upgrade to 1.0.4.8 when you are
finished and start over.

B) delete your current saved game and upgrade to 1.0.4.8, when you are done with
the first half, use your license key.

When you upgrade, simply go to ( www.palmgear.com ) and download the .ZIP file.
Your license key will work with the latest file without you having to pay again.

I did not upload the file to the Yahoo! Groups TMU-Saexgryth, since I am having
problems with uploading files to Yahoo! Groups.

There seems to be little interest in Dragon Blossom, so I it will not be
uploaded to ( www.palmgear.com ).

-William

Quoting Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@...>:

> A while ago I purchased a license key for Saexgryth. Will this number still
> work after reaching the end of the demo or do I need the full version sent
> to me now?
>
> Also what happened to Dragon Blossom?
>
> Regards,
> Simon Jacobs

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#2870 From: "styskul" <epankoke@...>
Date: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: New Dragon Bane II Adventure
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That's what I would have suspected, but I thought I remembered reading
one time where that wasn't always the case.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...> wrote:
>
> All adventure files (and save game files) should be interchanchable on
> any platform.
>
> Jason
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Pankoke" <epankoke@c...>
wrote:
> >
> > I'm positive I asked this before, but does this adventure not work on
> > the PPC version of Dragon Bane II?  I'd really like to pay it, but I
> > don't want to shell out another $25 first to get the Palm version of a
> > game I already own.
> >
> > Eric Pankoke
> > Founder
> > Point Of Light Software
> > http://www.polsoftware.com/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
> > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:41 AM
> > To: DragonBaneII-yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [DragonBaneII] New Dragon Bane II Adventure
> >
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > Your license key for Saexgryth is still valid with the latest release.
> > Do not
> > pay for Saexgryth.  Paying for Saexgryth will simply give you the
> > license key
> > again.
> >
> > New players need to download the file once.  After they play the first
> > half for
> > free (thus making sure it works with their hardware), they will then
> > purchase a
> > license key from ( www.palmgear.com ).
> >
> > Your version 1.0.3 saved game will not work.  If you upgrade to
1.0.4.8
> > you will
> > get a "corrupt file" error and it will erase your saved game.  Several
> > of the
> > items in 1.0.4.8 are different from version 1.0.3, especially
I'FIELDs.
> >
> > You have at least two options:
> > A) continue playing your current game, and upgrade to 1.0.4.8 when you
> > are
> > finished and start over.
> >
> > B) delete your current saved game and upgrade to 1.0.4.8, when you are
> > done with
> > the first half, use your license key.
> >
> > When you upgrade, simply go to ( www.palmgear.com ) and download the
> > .ZIP file.
> > Your license key will work with the latest file without you having to
> > pay again.
> >
> > I did not upload the file to the Yahoo! Groups TMU-Saexgryth,
since I am
> > having
> > problems with uploading files to Yahoo! Groups.
> >
> > There seems to be little interest in Dragon Blossom, so I it will
not be
> > uploaded to ( www.palmgear.com ).
> >
> > -William
> >
> > Quoting Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@>:
> >
> > > A while ago I purchased a license key for Saexgryth. Will this
number
> > still
> > > work after reaching the end of the demo or do I need the full
version
> > sent
> > > to me now?
> > >
> > > Also what happened to Dragon Blossom?
> > >
> > > Regards,
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#2869 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: New Dragon Bane II Adventure
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All adventure files (and save game files) should be interchanchable on
any platform.

Jason

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Pankoke" <epankoke@c...> wrote:
>
> I'm positive I asked this before, but does this adventure not work on
> the PPC version of Dragon Bane II?  I'd really like to pay it, but I
> don't want to shell out another $25 first to get the Palm version of a
> game I already own.
>
> Eric Pankoke
> Founder
> Point Of Light Software
> http://www.polsoftware.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:41 AM
> To: DragonBaneII-yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [DragonBaneII] New Dragon Bane II Adventure
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> Your license key for Saexgryth is still valid with the latest release.
> Do not
> pay for Saexgryth.  Paying for Saexgryth will simply give you the
> license key
> again.
>
> New players need to download the file once.  After they play the first
> half for
> free (thus making sure it works with their hardware), they will then
> purchase a
> license key from ( www.palmgear.com ).
>
> Your version 1.0.3 saved game will not work.  If you upgrade to 1.0.4.8
> you will
> get a "corrupt file" error and it will erase your saved game.  Several
> of the
> items in 1.0.4.8 are different from version 1.0.3, especially I'FIELDs.
>
> You have at least two options:
> A) continue playing your current game, and upgrade to 1.0.4.8 when you
> are
> finished and start over.
>
> B) delete your current saved game and upgrade to 1.0.4.8, when you are
> done with
> the first half, use your license key.
>
> When you upgrade, simply go to ( www.palmgear.com ) and download the
> .ZIP file.
> Your license key will work with the latest file without you having to
> pay again.
>
> I did not upload the file to the Yahoo! Groups TMU-Saexgryth, since I am
> having
> problems with uploading files to Yahoo! Groups.
>
> There seems to be little interest in Dragon Blossom, so I it will not be
> uploaded to ( www.palmgear.com ).
>
> -William
>
> Quoting Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@>:
>
> > A while ago I purchased a license key for Saexgryth. Will this number
> still
> > work after reaching the end of the demo or do I need the full version
> sent
> > to me now?
> >
> > Also what happened to Dragon Blossom?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Simon Jacobs
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#2868 From: "Jason Freund" <freund@...>
Date: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: Sudden Death?
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I downloaded the save game and it plays fine on the Palm version.  I
went to the door at 2,24 and walked around a little while until I
encountered something.  I fought for a couple rounds then ran and
didn't get the bug.

I also tried walking around some more and encountered about 5
different groups.  Each time, I fought a few rounds and ran, but never
got the bug.

Finally, using a special debug version of the game, I could construct
scenarios with lizard summoners at various distances, with and without
an elemental (Wizard Wall) in the party.  Each time, I played a few
rounds and gave up without encountering the bug.

Can anyone else help to reproduce this?  It would help a lot if you
knew exactly what happened before it occurred so I can try to setup
that scenario.  Did you have a WizardWall?  Exactly what monsters were
you fighting (including quantity, and distances)?  What attack
commands did you issue, and what attacks did the enemy do?

Thanks,
Jason


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Alan Beitz" <muza@m...> wrote:
>
> OK, I uploaded the save file.  It's in \Files\DB2 Saved Games\MSRK
> Saved Games, and the description is "PPC 1.0.5 Save Before Sudden
> Death of Caleb".  If you restore the entry labelled "Talon Cloister
> Sewe", the party will be standing just outside the king's residence
> in New Treleon.  Enter the teleporter, and you'll be at the troll's
> teleporter in the Talon Cloiser sewer.  Head toward the bronze key
> door at (2,24).  My experience has been that in the first battle you
> engage in, no matter where it happens or what you're fighting, Caleb
> has about a 50/50 chance of dying inexplicably.  And it always
> happens in the first "round".  So if you complete the first round of
> combat and Caleb is still alive, finish the battle, reset, and try
> again.  Or keep playing if you want - maybe it will happen in a later
> battle, but that hasn't happened with me.
>
> Good luck!
> Dale
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Freund" <freund@m...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the detailed report.  Can you post that save game to the
> forum
> > Files section?  Maybe someone on a Palm OS device can try to repeat
> your
> > steps and we can find out if the bug is specific to Win Mobile.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also note there is a History command in battle - at least in the
> Palm
> > version, you can get to it using the application menu (not the in-
> game menu,
> > but the OS title bar menu).  That way you can double check the text
> that
> > played in the most recent battle to see if there is a note about
> Caleb
> > getting hit.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, maybe the person who originally reported this problem - if
> you're
> > reading, can you say where in the game it happened?  If it also
> happened in
> > the same map and against the same bad guys or similar bad guys,
> that would
> > be a clue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Dale Alan Beitz
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:53 AM
> > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: Sudden Death?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had an incident of "sudden death" last night.  Unfortunately, I
> > hadn't read this thread yet so I didn't know how to document the
> > situation to send in to Mythological. I'm playing Version 1.0.5 PPC
> > on an IPAQ HX2495 with Windows CE 5.0.  I was in the sewer under
> > Talon Cloister, had just gone through the door requiring the bronze
> > key, and faced either a party of Eagle guards, or a lizard summoner
> > and lizards. I've had it happen facing either group. In the first
> > round of battle after encountering the "bad guys", Caleb dies with
> > full hit points.  I didn't see any message indicating that anything
> > had hit him.  And as I recall, Eagle guards don't use magic, so
> there
> > shouldn't have been any chance of anything other than a physical
> > attack in that case.  Which means either Caleb took 50 HP of damage
> > from the baddies (Caleb apparently dies with full HP, which is
> > currently 50) and the game didn't display the HP correctly, or
> > there's a glitch in the game causing the death.  The rest of the
> > party (in order) consisted of Unger, Heric, Mordor, and Poe, with
> > nobody in slot 6.
> >
> > I have a save position just before this at the troll's teleporter,
> > and have replayed from this save point several times. About half
> the
> > time Caleb inexplicably dies in the first battle after I teleport
> > back to the sewer, no matter where the battle occurs and no matter
> > what monsters they face, and about half the time he doesn't.
> >
> > I'll try and document this next time it happens.
> >
> > Dale
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666" <postingid01@t...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Come to think of it, I do believe I had an elemental in slot 6.
> > > I avoided a few fights, and it has not happened since.
> > >
> > > I'll photograph it if it happens again.
> > >
> > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "A Hobby That Pays, Inc."
> > > <a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@z...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I do not work for Mythological Software or Mighty Mighty Good
> > Games.
> > > >
> > > > That sounds strange that you can be dead with full hitpoints.
> > When this
> > > > happens, do you have an elemental in slot six of the party?
> > > >
> > > > For game reasons, you cannot save the game during combat.
> However
> > > when you exit
> > > > the program, it should save a temporary copy, even during
> combat.
> > > >
> > > > Two ways you can document this bug.  One, immediately when it
> > > happens, stop
> > > > playing Dragon Bane II "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) and exit the
> > > program.  When
> > > > you next synchronize your PPC, copy the MSRK saved game file and
> > > email it to
> > > > the appropriate people.
> > > >
> > > > Two, when it happens stop, but do not exit the program.  Get a
> > video
> > > camera/
> > > > digital camera with video mode and make a video of your screen.
> > > Before making
> > > > the video, click on the menu -> options -> preferences.  For
> > > preferences select
> > > > Combat Scroll Speed = Slowest, make sure Smooth Combat Scroll
> > Text is an
> > > > unchecked box.  While making the video, click on the menu ->
> > options
> > > -> last
> > > > message.  If you exit the program, the Last Message buffer is
> > purged.
> > > >
> > > > -William
> > > >
> > > > Quoting feklhr666 <postingid01@>:
> > > >
> > > > > Well it just happened several times in a row. It usually
> happens
> > > > > immediately after a foe has advanced or summoned a creature,
> > and my
> > > > > lead character chooses "attack" he is immediately dead.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "feklhr666"
> > <postingid01@t...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Version 1.0.5 PPC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Occasionally, within a battle, one of my characters (so
> far,
> > > it has
> > > > > > > only been my lead) will suddenly become labeled DEAD. He
> may
> > > not even
> > > > > > > have been hit, and still has all his HPs, he's just
> > > suddenly... dead!
> > > > =
> > > >
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