Hi there!

I'm having trouble getting new adventures to compile, once i have made
changes to the wall tiles.

I get 'bad version' error.


also would like some comments on this: I was looking at redoing the graphics
for the game, by just editing the .bmp.
theoretically this should let me insert new graphics over the old ones
without having to mess around with the brush data and wall defintions?

thanks!

Bob.

_________________________________________________________________
Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Guys,
I posted a cheat for this game a while back on this site.  I
originally only wanted to do that and nothing more, but now that I am
compiling my cheats for all the games so far into one site
http://www.palmcheaterguy.4t.com (unfinished!) I wanted to get this
one and see how it was doing...  I never really expected the replies
I recieved!  I am glad that I have help! :-)  I will bookmark this
page and come here more often!

Shadows92

Hi Simon,

Actually, the "T.M.U. GUEST LODGE" deliberately appears on several
maps (Note 1).  You can go to the "T.M.U. GUEST LODGE" if any of your
party is DEFEATED and the necromancer's will cast REVIVE DEFEATED+
for free.  Once revived, you can heal your character.  You can also
put STORAGE class characters (see below) in "T.M.U. GUEST LODGE" and
load them up with "SUNFRUIT. 20", "PORT MELON. 99", "SEAL-PORTAL",
etc. in case your party needs them to get back to INTERIORS.

Major Bug: Grayscale support
Minor Bugs: Storage Class, Three Temples

Grayscale support.  Grayscale crashes Pocket PC.  Mighty Might
Software is working to generate an error message, and they may
support grayscale in the future.  A Hobby That Pays, Inc. has created
demo versions of 4 shade gray, 16 shade gray, and 256 color and
included them with the Dragon Blossom OSI and Saexgryth.

Storage Class.  The STORAGE class characters have been renamed --
  "STASH A", "STASH P", "STASH M" and "STASH I".  The STORAGE class
now uses tile #152 which has been revised. Tile #152 now has the
text "Not a character. Item Storage. 1 HP AC+30".  All the tiles for
classes have been updated.  The MONITOR used to have the text "M00,
P00, I00", it now has the text "MA00-00, PA00-00, IA00-00".  Meaning
the MONITOR class has a melee accuracy 00% with intermediate melee
objects and melee accuracy 00% with advanced melee objects;a
projectile accuracy 00% with intermediate projectile objects and
projectile accuracy 00% with advanced projectile objects;an invoke
accuracy 00% with intermediate invoke objects and invoke accuracy 00%
with advanced invoke objects.  These were detailed in the
documentation, but this will hopefully make it clearer, to new people.

Three Temples.  The game starting map and INTERIORS was created
several years ago.  Some of the walls, and text are out of date.  The
three temples, when the game starts, have been replaced with a floor
& ceiling pentagram teleport wall, a temple wall, a grav lift down
wall. Text has been updated for unlock alley, difficulty setting
corridors, entering the CLEARING, portal returns, taverns in
INTERIORS.  Mostly this was just clarifying the text.  Some obsolete
text was deleted.

-William

Note 1) It should appear on INTERIORS, ORCHARD HOUSE, FACTORY,
GREENHOUSE, LOW FARM, MIDDLE FARM, and HIGH FARM.


++++ Begin Original Message++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2651

Msg#2651 Murphy's Law (or Re: Dragon Blossom OSI index)

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@a...>
wrote:
> William,
> I am still play testing Saexgryth. Only bug so far is same
necromancer inne
> appears on several maps such as orchard, factory, interior.
>
> What is the major bug to watch for?
>
> Simon Jacobs
> Group Systems & Development Coordinator

++++ End Original Message ++++
=

Hi,

I've played DB2 for a while, one characters as 2 items "Jewel2" that
I do not know how they got there.

Now, I'm in Lord Lair 2, with a shield called Holy Ward* I think and
after a fight, probably a Hydra, it transformed in "Jewel3".

Can someone explain me all this and if I can convert it back ??

Is there any use of those Jewels or it is only something to slow me
down ??

Thanks !!

William,
I am still play testing Saexgryth. Only bug so far is same necromancer inne
appears on several maps such as orchard, factory, interior.

What is the major bug to watch for?

Simon Jacobs
Group Systems & Development Coordinator

  -----Original Message-----
From:  A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
[mailto:a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...]
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2004 19:57
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Murphy's Law (or Re: Dragon Blossom OSI
index)

Hi Brian [original message -- and URL -- at end of this post],

Dragon Blossom OSI can be found at the following URL:

Dragon Blossom OSI adventure script
http://tinyurl.com/3mp3j

This will redirect you to the DragonBaneII Yahoo!Group.  You need a
Yahoo!ID because the file section is members only.  If you do not
have a Yahoo!ID, you will need to create one.  Yahoo!IDs are free.

It was thought that Saexgryth was missing some bonus sections, but
bug free.  However, three bugs have so far been found,  one of them
major.  Because of this, Saexgryth was pulled from the market leaving
just Blossom OSI.  Once Blossom OSI has been "play tested" and
debugged, the same bugs can be fixed in Saexgryth.  Saexgryth will
then be sold through www.palmgear.com, a palm software site (though
it should run on the Pocket PC, linux and any other platform that
supports Dragon Bane 2: "Return of Kra'an" [MSRK]).

Currently we have one (1) person looking for bugs in Blossom OSI.

-William
A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
"If there is more than one way to do something,
and one of those ways ends in total disaster,
someone will do it that way"- The Original Murphy's Law

"If anything can go wrong, it will"- Murphy's Law first quoted to the
press.


++++ Begin Original Message ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2649

Msg#2649 Re: Dragon Blossom OSI index

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Price"
<warriors4christ@d...> wrote:
> I am looking for a copy of this game and the follow on Saexgryth.
Can
> you help?
>
> Redeemed, by the Grace of God
> Forgiven, by the mercy of God
> Married to a Proverbs 31 wife, by the design of God
> Father to 5 blessings, by the will of God
>
> Brian Price
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:40 PM
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] Dragon Blossom OSI index
>
> =
> Dragon Blossom OSI
> -> Game (Object Code- Easy)
>       This the the game.  Load any documents you want, the
> adventure script, tile file, and wall file then start playing on
your
> PDA.


++++ End Original Message ++++

=






Yahoo! Groups Links






This email message (including any file attachments transmitted with it) is for
the sole use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorised review, use,
alteration, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this
email in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all copies
of the original message.

Any confidentiality or legal professional privilege is not waived or lost by any
mistaken delivery of the email.

Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate
to the official business of the company shall be understood as neither given nor
endorsed by it.

Hi Brian [original message -- and URL -- at end of this post],

Dragon Blossom OSI can be found at the following URL:

Dragon Blossom OSI adventure script
http://tinyurl.com/3mp3j

This will redirect you to the DragonBaneII Yahoo!Group.  You need a
Yahoo!ID because the file section is members only.  If you do not
have a Yahoo!ID, you will need to create one.  Yahoo!IDs are free.

It was thought that Saexgryth was missing some bonus sections, but
bug free.  However, three bugs have so far been found,  one of them
major.  Because of this, Saexgryth was pulled from the market leaving
just Blossom OSI.  Once Blossom OSI has been "play tested" and
debugged, the same bugs can be fixed in Saexgryth.  Saexgryth will
then be sold through www.palmgear.com, a palm software site (though
it should run on the Pocket PC, linux and any other platform that
supports Dragon Bane 2: "Return of Kra'an" [MSRK]).

Currently we have one (1) person looking for bugs in Blossom OSI.

-William
A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
"If there is more than one way to do something,
and one of those ways ends in total disaster,
someone will do it that way"- The Original Murphy's Law

"If anything can go wrong, it will"- Murphy's Law first quoted to the
press.


++++ Begin Original Message ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2649

Msg#2649 Re: Dragon Blossom OSI index

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Price"
<warriors4christ@d...> wrote:
> I am looking for a copy of this game and the follow on Saexgryth.
Can
> you help?
>
> Redeemed, by the Grace of God
> Forgiven, by the mercy of God
> Married to a Proverbs 31 wife, by the design of God
> Father to 5 blessings, by the will of God
>
> Brian Price
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:40 PM
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] Dragon Blossom OSI index
>
> =
> Dragon Blossom OSI
> -> Game (Object Code- Easy)
>       This the the game.  Load any documents you want, the
> adventure script, tile file, and wall file then start playing on
your
> PDA.


++++ End Original Message ++++

=

Hi subspace444 [original message -- and URL -- at end of post],

I am not an employee of Mythological Software.

Even running the demo version of Dragon Bane 2 Engine (DB2E), you
should be able to find the Lonely Spirit Tavern
  after midnight unless you have completed "Cellar 2" and recovered
the figurine.

Try the following.

1a) save your game
1b) restart your game
1c) go to the Lonely Spirit Tavern at "NEW TRELEON (24,2)", your
party facing North, after midnight.

if that does not work, got to the below URL for "Return of Kra'an"
(MSRK) saved games.  Load a game  like MSRK Cellar 1.  See if it will
work with your copy of DB2E.

If you want an answer about the Enchanted Grove go to the below URL
for "Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) walkthrough.  Be warned, the Enchanted
Grove is after Cellar 2 (the Lonely Spirit Tavern) but you must pass
through another dungeon to get through the Enchanted Grove.

-William

///////////////////////////////////////////////

"Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) saved games.

http://tinyurl.com/4mfsj

or

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/files/DB2%
20Saved%20Games/MSRK%20saved%20games/NEFTF/

///////////////////////////////////////////////

"Return of Kra'an" (MSRK) walkthrough

http://tinyurl.com/5n76f

or

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/files/Walkthrus/

///////////////////////////////////////////////

++++ Begin Original Message ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2642

Msg#2642Re: The worst player ever

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "subspace444" <subspace444@y...>
wrote:
> Ok, now I'm really frustrated. I've been to the location of the
> Lonely Spirits Pub every day of the week, and though I am allowed
to
> enter, it is always an empty building. MUST I go in this pub to
> finish the game?
>
> If not, could you answer my question about the Enchanted Grove.
> Thanks.

++++ End Original Message ++++
=

I've talked to the king, I've talked to the barkeep in the SouthWest
bar, and I have gone to the correct location of the Lonely Spirits.

The only conclusion I can come to is that my game is somehow broken.
Maybe my map file is corrupt. I will try downloading another one.


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "D-" <malkavian@w...> wrote:
> Go talk to the king so he can tell you about the bar that
should "open" the
> dialog you're looking for. -MalKiE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:19 PM
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: The worst player ever
>
>
>
> Ok, now I'm really frustrated. I've been to the location of the
> Lonely Spirits Pub every day of the week, and though I am allowed to
> enter, it is always an empty building. MUST I go in this pub to
> finish the game?
>
> If not, could you answer my question about the Enchanted Grove.
> Thanks.
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "subspace444"
<subspace444@y...>
> wrote:
> > Geez, I am hopeless.
> >
> > I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place,
it's
> > just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
> > locked.
> >
> > So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to try
> > them all.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger"
> <LarryF@D...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon.
> You
> > have
> > > to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
> > remember
> > > right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> > > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
> > >
> > >
> > > I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because
I
> > see
> > > no one else who is having the problems I am.
> > >
> > > First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go
> to
> > > the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> > > says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have
waited
> > > until night, but still no go.
> > >
> > > Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> > > Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the
> trees
> > > are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> > > times of the day, but no go. Help.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > >
> > > ADVERTISEMENT
> > >
> > >
> >
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
> > 6/
> > >
> >
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
> > tt
> > > p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click
> here
> >
> > >
> > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
> > M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> > > s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
> > >
> > >
> > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
> > subject=Unsubscribe>
> > >
> > >
> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

Ok, I started the game over, and now it works fine.

I think because my chars were very high level (by going back to the
eaglemen over and over), it just didn't want to let me in.

Thanks for the help.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "D-" <malkavian@w...> wrote:
> Go talk to the king so he can tell you about the bar that
should "open" the
> dialog you're looking for. -MalKiE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:19 PM
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: The worst player ever
>
>
>
> Ok, now I'm really frustrated. I've been to the location of the
> Lonely Spirits Pub every day of the week, and though I am allowed to
> enter, it is always an empty building. MUST I go in this pub to
> finish the game?
>
> If not, could you answer my question about the Enchanted Grove.
> Thanks.
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "subspace444"
<subspace444@y...>
> wrote:
> > Geez, I am hopeless.
> >
> > I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place,
it's
> > just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
> > locked.
> >
> > So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to try
> > them all.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger"
> <LarryF@D...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon.
> You
> > have
> > > to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
> > remember
> > > right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> > > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
> > >
> > >
> > > I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because
I
> > see
> > > no one else who is having the problems I am.
> > >
> > > First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go
> to
> > > the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> > > says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have
waited
> > > until night, but still no go.
> > >
> > > Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> > > Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the
> trees
> > > are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> > > times of the day, but no go. Help.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > >
> > > ADVERTISEMENT
> > >
> > >
> >
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
> > 6/
> > >
> >
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
> > tt
> > > p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click
> here
> >
> > >
> > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
> > M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> > > s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
> > >
> > >
> > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
> > subject=Unsubscribe>
> > >
> > >
> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

=
Dragon Blossom OSI
-> Game (Object Code- Easy)
	 This the the game.  Load any documents you want, the
adventure script, tile file, and wall file then start playing on your
PDA.
->-> Adventure Script- Easy
	 Blossom OSI adventure script, which is ready to play, just
needs an included tile file and wall file.  Tile file and wall file
must be the same pallette -- 256 color or 16 shade gray or 4 shade
gray.
->-> Documents- Easy
	 Documents about Blossom OSI such as glossary, spell
descriptions, spells by class, class descriptions, weapon accuracy,
etc.  All documents are text files, so you can convert them to any
format and load them onto any PDA that will play Blossom OSI.
->->-> Screen Shots- Easy
->->->-> WallList- Easy
	 Walls.html contains graphics of all the walls used by Blossom
OSI to help you modify Blossom OSI or create your own adventure
scripts.  Gives players an idea what to expect.
->-> Tile and Wall Files- Easy
	 Tile files and wall files for use with the Blossom OSI
adventure script.
->->-> Color 256 demo- Easy
	 256 color tile file and wall file for use with the Blossom
OSI adventure script.
->->-> Gray 16 shade demo- Easy
	 Gray 16 shade tile file and wall file for use with the
Blossom OSI adventure script.
->->-> Gray 4 shade demo- Easy
	 Gray 4 shade tile file and wall file for use with the Blossom
OSI adventure script.



-> README
	 Contains important information about the Blossom OSI



-> Source_Code-Moderate
	 pdbs256mDB-DEBUG.cfg is included for your  reference.  It is
the .cfg file used to compile Blossom OSI.  The subfolders contain
all the files you need to modify Blossom OSI.
->-> Font-Moderate
	 Char_tgsa.dat is the fonts used for Blossom OSI.
->-> List-Difficult
	 mDB_objects.txt is all the objects used in Dragon Blossom OSI.
->->-> vM_lists
	 Contains all the remaining list files for Blossom OSI such as
characters, monsters, spells, etc.
->-> Map-Moderate
		 Wallattr.bin allows you to use MAPEDIT.EXE on the
Blossom OSI .MAP files.
   mDB_text_game.txt is all the text used by the adventure.  All
the .MAP files are the stratas (overhead maps) used by the
adventure.  All the state text files are the local and global state
bits used by Blossom OSI.
->-> Project- Moderate
	 Joint Copy Right Agreement modeled after the one used by Sun
Microsystems, Inc. (OpenOffice.org Open Source Project) and
GarageGames.com, Inc. (OpenTNL.org).  Moderate rating comes from
working on new adventures and .MAP files (stratas or overhead maps).
If you wish to work on list files, the difficutly rating goes up to
Difficult.
->-> zScratch- Very Difficult
	 Scratch are all the working notes.  As working notes, even A
Hobby That Pays, Inc. staff can have problems deciphering them.  They
were included for many reasons.  (A) It protects the Open Source
Project copyright so someone cannot copyright a key aspect of Blossom
OSI and prevent people from releasing their adventure scripts under
the Open Software License v2.1  (B) A designer may wish to base an
adventure around an idea included in the notes.  (C) Decades later, a
fan of Dragon Bane may wish to port the game to an modern system. (D)
It includes paths A Hobby That Pays, Inc. choose not to pursue, such
as improved versions of the spells used in "Return of Kra'an" that
were dropped due to the 255 spell maximum.  Improved versions of the
classes from "Return of Kra'an" that were dropped because of the 16
class limit.  The monsters from "Return of Kra'an" renamed -- but
using the same statistics -- and using the Tile file included with
Blossom OSI.  The monsters were dropped because Blossom OSI's new
weapons and spells, as were early attempts at object files.  (E) In
case something unfortunate happens to the (very small) staff of A
Hobby That Pays, Inc.; no one is immortal.
->->-> DB2E Info
	 Contains notes made about "Return of Kra'an" helpful to
adventure designers.
->->-> Player Info
	 Contains notes that will be used in the manual after the open
session, beta test is concluded.
->->-> Team Hobby Info
	 Contains notes on treasures found in Saexgryth including
location (aren't you glad you kept reading?).  Useful for updating
treasures if the object file changes.

=

I am sure it is the right door. During the day it says it is locked,
but that it is a tavern.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Stanley Pohl <stanp6@o...> wrote:
> Are you sure you're trying the right door? As I recall there are
some places near it that are normal rooms. If you go the the tavern
in the daytime you get a message that there is a tavern here but the
door is locked.
>
> Stan
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: subspace444
>   To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:15 PM
>   Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: The worst player ever
>
>
>   Geez, I am hopeless.
>
>   I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place,
it's
>   just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
>   locked.
>
>   So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to
try
>   them all.
>
>
>
>   --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger"
<LarryF@D...>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon.
You
>   have
>   > to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
>   remember
>   > right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
>   >
>   > Larry
>   >
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
>   > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
>   > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
>   > Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
>   >
>   >
>   > I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because
I
>   see
>   > no one else who is having the problems I am.
>   >
>   > First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to
go to
>   > the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
>   > says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have
waited
>   > until night, but still no go.
>   >
>   > Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
>   > Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the
trees
>   > are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at
all
>   > times of the day, but no go. Help.
>   >
>   > Thanks.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>   >
>   > ADVERTISEMENT
>   >
>   >
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
>   6/
>   >
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
>   tt
>   > p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click
here
>
>   >
>   > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
>   M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
>   > s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
>   >
>   >
>   >   _____
>   >
>   > Yahoo! Groups Links
>   >
>   >
>   > *      To visit your group on the web, go to:
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
>   >
>   >
>   > *      To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   > DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>   > <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
>   subject=Unsubscribe>
>   >
>   >
>   > *      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms
of
>   > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
>
>         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>               ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
>
>     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.

Go talk to the king so he can tell you about the bar that should "open" the
dialog you're looking for. -MalKiE

-----Original Message-----
From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@...]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:19 PM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: The worst player ever



Ok, now I'm really frustrated. I've been to the location of the
Lonely Spirits Pub every day of the week, and though I am allowed to
enter, it is always an empty building. MUST I go in this pub to
finish the game?

If not, could you answer my question about the Enchanted Grove.
Thanks.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "subspace444" <subspace444@y...>
wrote:
> Geez, I am hopeless.
>
> I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place, it's
> just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
> locked.
>
> So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to try
> them all.
>
>
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger"
<LarryF@D...>
> wrote:
> >
> > The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon.
You
> have
> > to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
> remember
> > right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
> >
> >
> > I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I
> see
> > no one else who is having the problems I am.
> >
> > First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go
to
> > the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> > says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
> > until night, but still no go.
> >
> > Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> > Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the
trees
> > are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> > times of the day, but no go. Help.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> >
> > ADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
> 6/
> >
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
> tt
> > p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click
here
>
> >
> > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
> M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> > s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
> >
> >
> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
> subject=Unsubscribe>
> >
> >
> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .






Yahoo! Groups Links

Ok, now I'm really frustrated. I've been to the location of the
Lonely Spirits Pub every day of the week, and though I am allowed to
enter, it is always an empty building. MUST I go in this pub to
finish the game?

If not, could you answer my question about the Enchanted Grove.
Thanks.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "subspace444" <subspace444@y...>
wrote:
> Geez, I am hopeless.
>
> I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place, it's
> just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
> locked.
>
> So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to try
> them all.
>
>
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger"
<LarryF@D...>
> wrote:
> >
> > The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon.
You
> have
> > to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
> remember
> > right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
> >
> >
> > I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I
> see
> > no one else who is having the problems I am.
> >
> > First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go
to
> > the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> > says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
> > until night, but still no go.
> >
> > Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> > Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the
trees
> > are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> > times of the day, but no go. Help.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> >
> > ADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
> 6/
> >
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
> tt
> > p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click
here
>
> >
> > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
> M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> > s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
> >
> >
> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
> subject=Unsubscribe>
> >
> >
> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

----- Original Message -----

From: subspace444

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:15 PM

Subject: [DragonBaneII] Re: The worst player ever

Geez, I am hopeless.

I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place, it's
just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
locked.

So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to try
them all.



--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger" <LarryF@D...>
wrote:
> 
> The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon. You
have
> to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
remember
> right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
> 
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
>
>
> I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I
see
> no one else who is having the problems I am.
>
> First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go to
> the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
> until night, but still no go.
>
> Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the trees
> are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> times of the day, but no go. Help.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor     
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> 
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
6/
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
tt
> p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click here
     
> 
> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>      
>
>
>   _____ 
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> *      To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
>  
>
> *      To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
subject=Unsubscribe>
>  
>
> *      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

Geez, I am hopeless.

I waited until after midnight, but whenever I enter the place, it's
just an empty building. During the day it says it's a tavern, but
locked.

So maybe it's only open certain days of the week. I'll have to try
them all.



--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger" <LarryF@D...>
wrote:
>
> The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon. You
have
> to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
remember
> right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
>
>
> I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I
see
> no one else who is having the problems I am.
>
> First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go to
> the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
> until night, but still no go.
>
> Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the trees
> are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> times of the day, but no go. Help.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
6/
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
tt
> p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click here

>
> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
>
>
>   _____
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
>
>
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

Thanks for the tip.

Appreciated.


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Fluckiger" <LarryF@D...>
wrote:
>
> The Lonely Spirits tavern is at location (24,1) in New Treleon. You
have
> to enter at night, which is probably later than you think. If I
remember
> right, 'night' comes after 'evening', so it is after midnight.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@y...]
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever
>
>
> I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I
see
> no one else who is having the problems I am.
>
> First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go to
> the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
> says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
> until night, but still no go.
>
> Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
> Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the trees
> are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
> times of the day, but no go. Help.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129mji9mh/M=298184.5285298.6392945.300117
6/
>
D=groups/S=1705329796:HM/EXP=1093112895/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*h
tt
> p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> click here

>
> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?
M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group
> s/S=:HM/A=2319498/rand=755156450>
>
>
>   _____
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/
>
>
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DragonBaneII-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

-----Original Message-----
From: subspace444 [mailto:subspace444@...]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 AM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] The worst player ever

I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I see
no one else who is having the problems I am.

First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go to
the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
until night, but still no go.

Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the trees
are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
times of the day, but no go. Help.

Thanks.

I must be the worst player of Dragon Bane II out there, because I see
no one else who is having the problems I am.

First, in the town you start off in, I go to the NorthWest to go to
the secret bar, but all I see on the wall is a sign that
says 'revenge'. I cannot find the bar itself. Help. I have waited
until night, but still no go.

Also, in the NorthWest of the outdoor map, I try and go to the
Enchanted Grove, which I assume holds the catacombs, but the trees
are 'impassable'. Again, I have tried passing these trees at all
times of the day, but no go. Help.

Thanks.

Started playing Saexgryth. Great adventure! Love the new graphics, weapons &
characters. I can see William put a lot of work into this. The tribute to
the Challenger space shuttle is nice as well. The way you can set your own
difficulty levels & even commence at another point in the adventure by
visiting the interiors is also another different idea.

It really is quite surprising how different Dragon Bane Adventures can be if
you put some thought into adventure design. The whole game really is a
remarkable credit to Gabe & Jason who designed an amazing game engine and
adventure construction kit enabling hours of play in RTK and giving people
like William & myself the opportunity to design adventures like Princess
Demelza set in the medieval Dragon Bane environment right through to
Saexgryth set in a brand new futuristic university campus environment.

William's adventure is called Grimflaed and it takes place as described
above in a brand new futuristic university campus environment William calls
the Techno University. The game is available in 3 "flavors". Dragon Blossom
is a limited version of the full game that he has released and is completely
free so long as you don't mind using black & white graphics. Personally you
are better off spending the $10.00 and purchasing the colour graphics which
make Dragon Bane the engine seem all brand new & fresh again. Now for
another $5.00 you can purchase a larger version of the same game called
Saexgryth. This is what I am currently playing and the game really is quite
clever and most importantly completely different to RTK or PD. So I think
this $15.00 is well spent.

Now there is a third version of the game which is the full version called
Grimflaed which William has not finished as yet which is the complete
adventure from Dragon Blossom right through. I initially expressed concern
that if you tried the free Dragon Blossom then wanted to upgrade to
Saexgryth then upgrade again to Grimflaed you would always have to restart
because saved games are not transferable between adventures.

However William assures me that you currently will only have to restart
between the free Dragon Blossom & Saexgryth. Very cleverly between Saexgryth
& Grimflaed you can upgrade & the Grimflaed upgrade will emulate where you
would have been up to had you completed Saexgryth. (Character levels,
monster densities & I guess he will reveal maps that would have been
completely exposed by this stage?)

It appears William has also got around the registration limitation in the
Dragon Bane engine in that you can only either publish a demo or full
version of the adventure - not a full version with a license key. I haven't
seen this yet but apparently when you get to the level in Grimflaed that
comes after you would have completed Saexgryth you will be asked for a code.
You then supply William with the reference code & he will return you an
unlock code. The only problem with this is that you need a new unlock code
every time you restart & only William can supply it. So if he gets run over
by a bus or defeated (killed) by rat lad we can never play the registered
version of Grimflaed again!!

Seriously, this license idea is a good innovation as look what happened to
me - I have only published PD on 3 sights yet it is available for sale in 27
different languages on over 200 sites world wide! Anyone wanting to market
PD just has to purchase 1 registered version and away they go.

It would be good if the DBII ACK did have some facility for a license key. I
estimate I would have lost a few thousand dollars so far through illegal
sales.

Once again - congratulations William on a job well done!

Regards,

Simon Jacobs
Princess Demelza designer
simon_Jacobs@...

  -----Original Message-----
From:  A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
[mailto:a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@...]
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:49
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] URLs for TMU & Dragon Blossom OSI

Hi,

For people having trouble finding Dragon Blossom OSI on the Internet:

Screen Shots TechnoMagic University (tm)(tm)
http://tinyurl.com/3uvua

Dragon Blossom OSI adventure script
http://tinyurl.com/3mp3j

Tributes
http://tinyurl.com/4xn67

William

TechnoMagic University, Saexgryth, Grimflaed, Beowilid, "Toad to
Riches", A Hobby That Pays, Inc. and A Hobby That Pays, Inc. logo are
all copyright and trademarked 2004 A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
Alternate Keywords: Techno Magic University, TechnoMagic Univ., TMU.
(tm)(tm)
=






Yahoo! Groups Links






This email message (including any file attachments transmitted with it) is for
the sole use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorised review, use,
alteration, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this
email in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all copies
of the original message.

Any confidentiality or legal professional privilege is not waived or lost by any
mistaken delivery of the email.

Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate
to the official business of the company shall be understood as neither given nor
endorsed by it.

Hi,

If you are playing Dragon Blossom OSI, the following compares TMU
terminology to "Return of Kra'an" terminology.

/////////////////////////////////

MELEE=STRENGTH
PROJECTILE=DEXTERITY
INVOKE=INTELLEGENCE
VITAL=STAMINA

Why change them at all? Short answer:
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=12

/////////////////////////////////

=
TechnoMagic University, Saexgryth, Grimflaed, Beowilid, "Toad to
Riches", A Hobby That Pays, Inc. and A Hobby That Pays, Inc. logo are
all copyright and trademarked 2004 A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
Alternate Keywords: Techno Magic University, TechnoMagic Univ., TMU.
™(tm)
=

Hi,

I have ammended the party recommendation document as follows:

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

->->->->->     STORAGE (1 hit point, WIZ WALL ELEMENTAL [NOTE 6])


Note 6) STORAGE always miss with gun or handweapon.  STORAGE have 1
hit point and AC+30.  If a monster attacks them, the monster almost
always hit (95%), and kills a STORAGE character.  A Hobby That Pays,
Inc. (AHTPI) does not have access to the source code for Dragon Bane
2 Engine (DB2E).  STORAGE is an attempt to let players store items
for later use.  For example if you FIRE-KIN (WIZARD) cannot use TORSO
4 FLEX.B* armor yet but your STRIKER, WATER-KIN and GUARD all have
TORSO 5 FLEX armor already, you might want to save the TORSO 4
FLEX.B* amor for your FIRE-KIN.  On 4 shade & 16 shade gray PDAs, it
is very hard to see an item that is grayed out (character who has it
cannot use it).  To make it easier for these PDAs to read the items a
STORAGE character has, they have MELEE & PROJECTILE 40, and INVOKE
31.  However, any handweapon or ranged weapon (gun, WHIRL&,
HARN'GUN+, invoker spellweapon) that a STORAGE character uses, will
always miss a monster.  If you give a STORAGE character a HEAL WAND
86 and place him in party slot 5, the first monster with a gun who
shoots at the character will 95% kill him.  Also 50% of monsters have
guns or spells.

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

=
TechnoMagic University, Saexgryth, Grimflaed, Beowilid, "Toad to
Riches", A Hobby That Pays, Inc. and A Hobby That Pays, Inc. logo are
all copyright and trademarked 2004 A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
Alternate Keywords: Techno Magic University, TechnoMagic Univ., TMU.
™(tm)
=

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "A Hobby That Pays, Inc."
<a_hobby_that_pays_inc.pleat91730@z...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you are playing Dragon Blossom OSI (ATBA), you should read the
> following document.

Hi,

For people having trouble finding Dragon Blossom OSI on the Internet:

Screen Shots TechnoMagic University ™(tm)
http://tinyurl.com/3uvua

Dragon Blossom OSI adventure script
http://tinyurl.com/3mp3j

Tributes
http://tinyurl.com/4xn67

William

TechnoMagic University, Saexgryth, Grimflaed, Beowilid, "Toad to
Riches", A Hobby That Pays, Inc. and A Hobby That Pays, Inc. logo are
all copyright and trademarked 2004 A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
Alternate Keywords: Techno Magic University, TechnoMagic Univ., TMU.
™(tm)
=

Hi Dana,

You can download Dragon Blossom OSI for free from the DragonBaneII
Yahoo! Group file section.

http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII

As per our conversation in message 1479 (see below) if you do
download Dragon Blossom OSI, open the file (monsters_tm.txt).  I
could not discuss it before due to business reasons, but the MOUNTAIN
has an AC +30 (very easy to hit) and 30,000 hit points.  The VOLCANO
is AC +30 with 60,000 hit points.  Whenever my party runs into them,
I usually runaway.

If by produce anything you mean an adventure related, Dennis Burns is
beta testing a "new Adventure editor. It is a full featured graphical
editor including tiles, wall, heros, objects and of course maps."
See message 2562 below.

Marcus released a "Visual DB2ACK Tool v.1.00".  See message 2516 below

I have not tried either one.

William

++++ Begin Dragon Blossom OSI Blurb ++++

Dragon Blossom is OSI Certified Open Source Software.

All-new maps; 18 character classes; game difficulty adjustable at any
time; multiple routes; the ability to bypass any puzzle and continue
with the game; all new monster art; new wall graphics; new
mapsquares; improved gray scale map symbols; and reinvented classes,
characters, avatars, spells, objects, and monsters.

<-> all new Tile file (menu screen graphics)
<-> improved map symbols. Gray scale easier to see. New map symbols
such as blocking forcefield, teleport, stalagmite, and stalactite.
<-> new Wall file (3-D view) adds new walls such as desks, air vents,
glow panels, and space station windows.

OSI Certified is a certification mark of the Open Source Initiative.

TechnoMagic University™(tm): Dragon Blossom OSI 1.0 is a complete
copyrighted adventure script available for free. Source code is
included, so you can change anything you want. You should read the
Open Software licensing agreement information first, if you plan to
distribute your changes to your friends or sell downloads of it.
Contact A Hobby That Pays, Inc. for information on closed-source
licensing agreements.

Requires:
-Dragon Bane 2 by Mythological Software (search Mythological Software
on www.palmgear.com)
-Dragon Bane 2 Adventure Construction Kit* by Mythological Software
(search Mythological Software on www.palmgear.com)

*Dragon Bane 2 Adventure Construction Kit is required to change
Dragon Blossom or create your own adventure script using the
TechnoMagic University™(tm) adventure setting.

TechnoMagic University, Saexgryth, Grimflaed, Beowilid, "Toad to
Riches", A Hobby That Pays, Inc. and A Hobby That Pays, Inc. logo are
all copyright and trademarked 2004 A Hobby That Pays, Inc.

Alternate Keywords: Techno Magic University, TechnoMagic Univ., TMU.

++++ End Dragon Blossom OSI Blurb ++++

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
///////////////

++++ Begin Message 2562 ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2562

Msg#2562 Re: Looking for Beta Testers for new Adventure Editor

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "burns000" <nextlemming@a...>
wrote:
> Hi All;
>     Is there any one interested in being a Beta tester for my new
> Adventure editor. It is a full featured graphical editor including
> tiles, wall, heros, objects and of course maps.
>     The application has been developed with the consent and help of
> the fine folks at Mythological. It will be offered as shareware for
> noncommercial users.
>
> Thanks,
>     Dennis Burns

++++ End Message 2562 ++++

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
///////////////

++++ Begin Message 2516 ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2516

Msg#2516 Re: New file in the download area: Visual DB2ACK Tool v.1.00

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "aspern4marcus"
<marcus.koenig@a...> wrote:
> Hi, all dedicated frieds of Dragon Bane II!
>
> I have created a "front end" tool for the DB2ACK, complete now with
a
> MAPEDITOR and CODEEDITOR. I hope that this tool will ease the
process
> of developing adventures.
> Some features:
> + Edit characters
> + Edit monsters
> + Edit spells
> + Edit objects
> + Edit object profiles
> + Edit classes of heroes
> + Edit Game Text
> + NEW: Edit maps and special code (replacement for the map editor)
> + compile the adventure
>
> + notes on the mapeditor: Enter the map editor by selecting a map
that
> belongs to your project or adding a new map to it. You can then
simply
> set a wall by doubleclicking on the square. Remove it by presseing
> <DEL> or by pressing the red "X" button. Enter the script mode with
> F11 or the button.
> + Scripteditor: You`ll see the motion script and the display script
on
> the left. Select a command and you will be presented the options.
> Chance the options and press SET Button to confirm the changes. If
the
> argument is a character, the options box will present you the list
of
> the available characters and a button to the character form to
create
> a new one. The same is true for objects, spells and so on. You can
> even name the state bits (lokal and global ones) to keep track of
them.
> + By selecting a command from the combo box and pressing SET a new
> line will be inserted. You can select more than one line and make
> clipboard operations on them.
> + NEW is that you can save (and load) lines of code to a simple text
> file on disk, so you can build up a codelibary for easy reusable
> pieces of code.
>
> So have fun and mail me problems or bugs (Marcus.Koenig@a...)
>
> Marcus

++++ End Message 2516 ++++


//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
///////////////

++++ Begin Message 1479 ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/1479

Msg#1479 6 against 1 or Re: New Classes or Sequels

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Dana Marshall <handheld@d...>
wrote:
> ROFL!!!! Touche'... but even if you had all party members with 999
hit
> points, you're still going to have that one monster with a hell of
a lot
> more HP than the party... does any monster in either adventure even
have
> that much??? And could a 6 member party take it on? And you have to
> remember, that the spells, weapons aren't going to hit 100% of the
time...
> you'll be there for 30 minutes killing the thing if not longer.
>
> Dana
>
> At 06:26 AM 8/17/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >1454 Re: New Classes or Sequels
> >Dear Dana,
> >
> ><teasing> So, you consider six party members - including
elemental -
> >against one monster fair?
> >
> >Sincerely yours,
> >NEFTF
> >"Nuke'em from twenty feet, it's the only way to be sure" -WYTHERA

++++ End Message 1479 ++++

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
///////////////


++++ Begin Original Message ++++

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/DragonBaneII/message/2627

Msg#2627 Re: Any new adventures out there?

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Dana Marshall" <handheld@d...>
wrote:
> I've been off-line for awhile and was wondering if anyone had
> produced anything after Simon's Princess Demelza adventure? And
> Simon, I think I need you to send me the new registered adventure,
> or a link, as I have no idea what version I have right now, and I'm
> now using a Tungsten E, and not a Visor anymore. ;)
>
> Dana Marshall
> handheld@d...

++++ End Original Message ++++
=

Hey is this the Nukl3ar of the MoDaCo Nukl3ar's? this is MalKiE. Yes I have
had that avatar transformation and not sure why. I just kept playing cause
it is cool to have a house wench doing mack damage to monsters. It sounds
like it is finally working for you. I am glad to hear it. Drop me a line at
my other email address to avoid being off topic on this site. Later.

-----Original Message-----
From: nukl3ar3 [mailto:nukl3ar3@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:12 PM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] strange avatar


During the course of playing the game the knight character's avatar
has changed from what was a fine knightly figure to something that
looks like perhaps a female washing a floor w/ a fireplace behind
her. Is this some strange condition that I failed to notice or is it
perhaps a bug or glitch? Anyone else have this happen to them?







Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi,

If you are playing Dragon Blossom OSI (ATBA), you should read the
following document.

William
A Hobby That Pays, Inc.

=
Recommended Party (Note 1):

STRIKER
WATER-KIN
GUARD
FIRE-KIN
HEART-KIN (Note 2)

Non-recommended parties should only be used by experienced (Note 3)
TechnoMagic University™(tm) customers.

Comparing TechnoMagic University™(tm) classes to Dragon Bane
2:"Return of Kra'an" (MSRK)
Matching classes to similar in combat (using only armor, handweapons
or guns) not spells or special abilities.

->     GUARD (KNIGHT)
->->->   CYBORG (KNIGHT/DWARF)
->->    EARTH-KIN (DWARF)
->->->   BUILDER (DWARF/THIEF)
->     WATER-KIN (THIEF)
->->->   RANGER (TROGLODYTE/THIEF)
->->    AIR-KIN (TROGLODYTE)
->->->   VEX-PSI (ARCHER/TROGLODYTE)
->     STRIKER (ARCHER)

->->->   ASSASSIN (KNIGHT/ARCHER/THIEF)

->     FIRE-KIN (WIZARD)
->->->   M'DESTRO (DWARF/THIEF/WIZARD)
->->    SPIRIT-KIN (NECROMANCER)
->->->   M'HEALER (DWARF/THIEF/SORCERER)
->     HEART-KIN (SORCERER)

->->->   SENSER (TROGLODYTE/THIEF)

->->->   MONITOR (WIZ WALL ELEMENTAL [Note 4])
->->->   FURY (GRIZZLY ELEMENTAL [Note 5])

Note 1) It is recommended that you have a FIRE-KIN or SPIRIT-KIN in
your party since that have spells that can attack a group of
monsters.  Most monsters appear in groups of 3 individuals, but can
be as high as 7 individuals.  Half of all monsters have guns or
spells.  FIRE-KIN regenerates spellpoints at a very fast rate.  FIRE-
KIN also have spells that can attack all monsters in all groups
within range of the spell.

STRIKER and WATER-KIN have spells that can let you avoid random
monster encounters (STEALTH in MSRK).  If you are hurt, you can use
these spells to get back to the starting map and safety.

WATER-KIN and GUARD have a spell that can revive a defeated character
(SAVING THROW in MSRK).

Note 2) It is recommended that you have a HEART-KIN in all of your
parties until you have at least completed CLEARING, ORCHARD HOUSE,
FACTORY, GREENHOUSE, OFFICE EAST and ARENA EAST stratas (overhead
maps).  ARENA EAST is especially difficult without a HEART-KIN.  If
you are outgunned by the monsters, a HEART-KIN can keep your party
alive long enough to RUN from a powerful creature.

Note 3) It is recommended that you at least complete CLEARING and
ORCHARD HOUSE stratas (overhead maps) before using a non-recommended
party.

Note 4) MONITOR always misses with handweapon or gun.  MONITORs can
only use their fists for 2-3 damage.  It is almost impossible to kill
a MONITOR.  Since they do not need weapons or armor, they can carry
10 items for the party.

Note 5) FURY always miss with handweapon or gun.  Furies can only use
their fists for 2-3 damage or Fury claws; FURY04 CLAWS!< (9-18
damage) up to FURY22 CLAWS!< (39-78 damage).  Fury claws are
available for free.  Go to "INTERIORS (1,5)", party facing South.
FURYs have many hit points.  Between battles they heal hit points at
a phenomenal rate.  Since they cannot use armor, they can carry 9
items for the party.  Note: FURYs have a high PROJECTILE skill
because of their superhuman speed.  However, they will always miss
with guns.

=
TechnoMagic University, Saexgryth, Grimflaed, Beowilid, "Toad to
Riches", A Hobby That Pays, Inc. and A Hobby That Pays, Inc. logo are
all copyright and trademarked 2004 A Hobby That Pays, Inc.
Alternate Keywords: Techno Magic University, TechnoMagic Univ., TMU.
™(tm)
=

Which adventure are you playing?

Regards,

Simon Jacobs
Princess Demelza designer
simon_Jacobs@...

  -----Original Message-----
From:  nukl3ar3 [mailto:nukl3ar3@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2004 09:12
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] strange avatar

During the course of playing the game the knight character's avatar
has changed from what was a fine knightly figure to something that
looks like perhaps a female washing a floor w/ a fireplace behind
her. Is this some strange condition that I failed to notice or is it
perhaps a bug or glitch? Anyone else have this happen to them?







Yahoo! Groups Links






This email message (including any file attachments transmitted with it) is for
the sole use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorised review, use,
alteration, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this
email in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all copies
of the original message.

Any confidentiality or legal professional privilege is not waived or lost by any
mistaken delivery of the email.

Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate
to the official business of the company shall be understood as neither given nor
endorsed by it.

During the course of playing the game the knight character's avatar
has changed from what was a fine knightly figure to something that
looks like perhaps a female washing a floor w/ a fireplace behind
her. Is this some strange condition that I failed to notice or is it
perhaps a bug or glitch? Anyone else have this happen to them?

I've been off-line for awhile and was wondering if anyone had
produced anything after Simon's Princess Demelza adventure? And
Simon, I think I need you to send me the new registered adventure,
or a link, as I have no idea what version I have right now, and I'm
now using a Tungsten E, and not a Visor anymore. ;)

Dana Marshall
handheld@...

West side inside Darien Grove

Regards,

Simon Jacobs
Princess Demelza designer
simon_Jacobs@...

  -----Original Message-----
From:  Ashandrow [mailto:ashandrow@...]
Sent: Saturday, 7 August 2004 03:18
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Graveyard-Demelza

I have gone through to the point where I have the magic carpet and
now I need to go to the Graveyard, but for the life of me, I can't
remember where it is. And I have been searching now for a couple of
day.

Can someone tell me how to get to the graveyard.

Thanks






Yahoo! Groups Links






This email message (including any file attachments transmitted with it) is for
the sole use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorised review, use,
alteration, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this
email in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all copies
of the original message.

Any confidentiality or legal professional privilege is not waived or lost by any
mistaken delivery of the email.

Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate
to the official business of the company shall be understood as neither given nor
endorsed by it.