Very tough but enjoyable game.  (Especially for long commuter rides,
though I do get states from co-riders who wonder what a 63 year old
man is doing playing a handheld)

I made it through the Lair of Pits and visisted Helix and went to the
hidden area.  Then I teleported to town and visited the healers and
leveler and went to the old man in the fairgrounds to have him
identify some items.  When I teleported out of the fairgrounds I
erased the automatic return to Lost Island.  Do I have to go all the
way back through the Lair of Pits to get back to helix's teleporter?

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: William R. Lange

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 14:11

Subject: [DragonBaneII] Easter Egg

I finally got around to playing and finishing DBII again and made it
to the Easter Level for the first time.  Now I know where that screen
shot comes from.  It was nice to see my name up in Pixels!

WRL




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Bert man... I love that you are replying the game, however some of
the statments you have made are wrong. Let me clearify. First of
all I love this game and have finished it and its (sp?)prediessor
many times. I don't want anyone to "CHEAT" before one finishes the
game to their satisfaction. And then it's not to cheat, but to have
fun with the harder places. I wanted to find a way to distory the
dragon prince in the first part of battle. (Cause the frist time it
took a while.) And if you or anyone mistook me... DON'T CHEAT AT
THIS GAME UNTILL YOU HAVE FINSIHED IT SO MANY TIMES THAT YOU WANT TO
DELETE IT... Then train your characters and go at it. So the giant
ant doesn't stand a chance at all! My method is merely my last dicth
effort to have fun with a game I have finished 3 times in the past.
After the first two it becomes VERY linear.

(And there are two characters you can't play with without useing my
method. And a second easter egg level[that's not completed].)

I actually used the same characters the first time around.
And Tesser is the best character on DBII IMO.


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Bert Latamore
wrote:
>
> Gee, congratulations on finding a way to cheat. Personally, I
prefer to play the game and meet its challenges as they come. I also
restarted the game, but I did it because I wanted to try out a
different group of characters. My team of Caleb, Tesser, Mordor,
Ensir and Poe are now up to Level 12, not through messing with the
programming but through patience, hard work and careful strategizing.
They are about to hit the graveyard and start that part of the
adventure.
>
> Having three magic users has its challenges. However, I have found
that with some magical amplification to his agility Poe has become an
effective second archer (Tesser is my main archer) while Mordor can
wield a bone axe and magical weapons as well as serving as the heavy
artillery when needed with his native abilities. Ensir both handles
magical weapons for the heavier battles and uses spells such as Sun
Sprite, which let him regenerate the spell points he uses, at other
times.
>
> I don't think I need your method.
>
> Bert



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Thanks!

Bert man...  I love that you are replying the game, however some of
the statments you have made are wrong.  Let me clearify.  First of
all I love this game and have finished it and its (sp?)prediessor
many times.  I don't want anyone to "CHEAT" before one finishes the
game to their satisfaction.  And then it's not to cheat, but to have
fun with the harder places.  I wanted to find a way to distory the
dragon prince in the first part of battle. (Cause the frist time it
took a while.)  And if you or anyone mistook me... DON'T CHEAT AT
THIS GAME UNTILL YOU HAVE FINSIHED IT SO MANY TIMES THAT YOU WANT TO
DELETE IT...  Then train your characters and go at it.  So the giant
ant doesn't stand a chance at all!  My method is merely my last dicth
effort to have fun with a game I have finished 3 times in the past.
After the first two it becomes VERY linear.

(And there are two characters you can't play with without useing my
method.  And a second easter egg level[that's not completed].)

I actually used the same characters the first time around.
And Tesser is the best character on DBII IMO.


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Bert Latamore
<bertlatamore@y...> wrote:
>
> Gee, congratulations on finding a way to cheat. Personally, I
prefer to play the game and meet its challenges as they come. I also
restarted the game, but I did it because I wanted to try out a
different group of characters. My team of Caleb, Tesser, Mordor,
Ensir and Poe are now up to Level 12, not through messing with the
programming but through patience, hard work and careful strategizing.
They are about to hit the graveyard and start that part of the
adventure.
>
> Having three magic users has its challenges. However, I have found
that with some magical amplification to his agility Poe has become an
effective second archer (Tesser is my main archer) while Mordor can
wield a bone axe and magical weapons as well as serving as the heavy
artillery when needed with his native abilities. Ensir both handles
magical weapons for the heavier battles and uses spells such as Sun
Sprite, which let him regenerate the spell points he uses, at other
times.
>
> I don't think I need your method.
>
> Bert

I have been going between the four cave levels for days.  It seems I
have been everywhere.  I have the etched key and can't find where to
use it and I can't find the divine key.  Please help!!

I finally got around to playing and finishing DBII again and made it
to the Easter Level for the first time.  Now I know where that screen
shot comes from.  It was nice to see my name up in Pixels!

WRL

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Gesendet: Montag, 24. November 2003 06:32
An: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [DragonBaneII] How do you use a portal?

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Hi Gabe,

It looks like MONSTER 000 000 000 gives you the exact range you ask
for.  If a monster summons another monster, it also gives you the
exact range.  If you encounter a monster randomly, it seems to give
you 10-max, randomly.  So far 20 ft, 30 ft and 70 ft give you shorter
ranges.  I do not know if it is evenly weighted between all possible
distances or heavily favored towards the range you ask for.  I know
number of monster groups appearing is heavily weighted towards 1
group.

I have not tried 40 ft, 50 ft or 60 ft.

-NEFTF


----Begin Original Message----
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Msg#2374 Re: DB2ACK: Range in MONSTERS.TXT

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Gabe Dalbec" <gabe@m...> wrote:
>
> From looking at the code, it seems that it should be exactly the
range you ask for.  Before I looked, I thought it was 10-max
randomly, but it looks like it should just be max.  Is it only
affecting 70' range monsters, or do 50 and 60 etc range sometimes
appear closer too?
>
> -Gabe
>
> > ------------Original Message------------
> > From: "neftf" <Cyb0Au0Dragon215@A...>
> > To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, Nov-21-2003 2:37 PM
> > Subject: [DragonBaneII] DB2ACK: Range in MONSTERS.TXT
> >
> > Dear Forum,
> >
> > In the file MONSTERS.TXT the range can be from 1 to 7.  However,
I
> > keep having creatures with a range of 70 feet appearing closer.
Is
> > the randomness evenly weighted, or is there a certain chance that
the
> > creature will be closer than it's default range.
> >
> > -NEFTF

----End Original Message

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Gesendet: Freitag, 21. November 2003 18:24
An: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [DragonBaneII] First message in Demelza

Hi,

I just got to the Bartender at the 'Beer and Beefsteak' in the
Demelza adventure.  He said to go find a message near the west gate,
but after checking everywhere in Darion Grove, I could not find it.

I also went to the Sewers entrance on the far west side, but couldn't
find it there either.

Moreover, I checked both buildings south of Darion Grove but didn't
have any luck there.

Does anyone know where I might find the west gate and message?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Nikhil Kulkarni



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Do I have to cast a spell to use one?

Hi Everyone,

I'm hoping that someone can help me!!

I seem to have been able to get through the east side of the
chambers, however I now keep going around in circles checking every
door and key hole without getting anywhere.

I have the black key in my possesion, but from reading the posts,
this key seems to be for another area that I missed and not the
chambers??

I have been to the Chamber of Surprise, Chamber of Dismay and I did
get into the Chamber of Horror once (can't seem to get there again).

This is the first time I have had to seek help as the answers are
always posted in this forum, but now I am really stuck.

I'm sorry that I don't have more information ... I don't remember
which keys I've had and which keys I still need.

Is there any keys in the cemetary that I have to find?

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

TIA

Sue

You do know that the combat scroll speed is adjustable in the preferences right?  Is the slowest setting too fast on a T3?

-Gabe

------------Original Message------------

From: Bert Latamore <bertlatamore@...>

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Date: Fri, Nov-21-2003 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [DragonBaneII] Re: DragonBane II on the T3

Actually if anything I would like to slow it down some. The messages in the battle sequences go by so fast I can't read them. But the graphics are nice. Of course I still have my m515, and with almost everything else off it now I could use it as a game machine.

toddkienitz <tkienitz@...> wrote:

To see your character list just make a 'P' (without the quotes) in
the virtual graffiti area. Also, to get a map make an 'M'. And YES,
the game plays great on a T3.

Todd

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Bert Latamore
wrote:
>
> I just purchased a T3 and moved my ongoing Dragonbane campaign to
it. However, the T3 has no equivalent for the calculator button on
the older Palm's and I cannot find any way to display my character
list. How do I do this on the T3?
>
> Otherwise it appears to run excellently and, of course, very fast.
>
> Bert
>
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From looking at the code, it seems that it should be exactly the range you ask
for.  Before I looked, I thought it was 10-max randomly, but it looks like it
should just be max.  Is it only affecting 70' range monsters, or do 50 and 60
etc range sometimes appear closer too?

-Gabe

> ------------Original Message------------
> From: "neftf" <Cyb0Au0Dragon215@...>
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, Nov-21-2003 2:37 PM
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] DB2ACK: Range in MONSTERS.TXT
>
> Dear Forum,
>
> In the file MONSTERS.TXT the range can be from 1 to 7.  However, I
> keep having creatures with a range of 70 feet appearing closer.  Is
> the randomness evenly weighted, or is there a certain chance that the
> creature will be closer than it's default range.
>
> -NEFTF
>
>
>
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>
>

To see your character list just make a 'P' (without the quotes) in
the virtual graffiti area. Also, to get a map make an 'M'. And YES,
the game plays great on a T3.

Todd

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Bert Latamore
wrote:
>
> I just purchased a T3 and moved my ongoing Dragonbane campaign to
it. However, the T3 has no equivalent for the calculator button on
the older Palm's and I cannot find any way to display my character
list. How do I do this on the T3?
>
> Otherwise it appears to run excellently and, of course, very fast.
>
> Bert
>
>
>
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Dear Forum,

In the file MONSTERS.TXT the range can be from 1 to 7.  However, I
keep having creatures with a range of 70 feet appearing closer.  Is
the randomness evenly weighted, or is there a certain chance that the
creature will be closer than it's default range.

-NEFTF

If you go to the northeast wall, the one with holes in it, you come up on a face on the wall. click on it!

Regards,

Mike Quinn

Hi,

I just got to the Bartender at the 'Beer and Beefsteak' in the
Demelza adventure.  He said to go find a message near the west gate,
but after checking everywhere in Darion Grove, I could not find it.

I also went to the Sewers entrance on the far west side, but couldn't't
find it there either.

Moreover, I checked both buildings south of Darion Grove but didn't
have any luck there.

Does anyone know where I might find the west gate and message?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Nikhil Kulkarni



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Hi,

I just got to the Bartender at the 'Beer and Beefsteak' in the
Demelza adventure.  He said to go find a message near the west gate,
but after checking everywhere in Darion Grove, I could not find it.

I also went to the Sewers entrance on the far west side, but couldn't
find it there either.

Moreover, I checked both buildings south of Darion Grove but didn't
have any luck there.

Does anyone know where I might find the west gate and message?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Nikhil Kulkarni

To see your character list just make a 'P' (without the quotes) in
the virtual graffiti area.  Also, to get a map make an 'M'.  And YES,
the game plays great on a T3.

Todd

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Bert Latamore
<bertlatamore@y...> wrote:
>
> I just purchased a T3 and moved my ongoing Dragonbane campaign to
it. However, the T3 has no equivalent for the calculator button on
the older Palm's and I cannot find any way to display my character
list. How do I do this on the T3?
>
> Otherwise it appears to run excellently and, of course, very fast.
>
> Bert
>
>
>
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Thanks for you help!



--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher Y Kim" <cysk@a...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 1) Vault key: you don't need it for anything.
>
> 2) Soli key: it is on the Sewer 1 level that you reach after
reaching a place in Sewer 2 (by solving the "If at first you don't
succeed" puzzle).
>
> See Larry Fluckinger's very helpful walkthrough (lots of spoilers -
  use if you need more help) in article #1674.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: hsimons85
>   To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 09:31
>   Subject: [DragonBaneII] Soli's Key
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I am stumped by the location of soli's key!  I have searched the
>   entire sewer dungeon, but cannot work out how to get soli's key!
>
>   Can someone help me plz?
>
>   Also - I bought the vault key, does anyone know where the vault
is
>   in the dungeon?
>
>   Thanks!
>
>   Harry
>
>
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From: hsimons85

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 09:31

Subject: [DragonBaneII] Soli's Key

Hi,

I am stumped by the location of soli's key!  I have searched the
entire sewer dungeon, but cannot work out how to get soli's key!

Can someone help me plz?

Also - I bought the vault key, does anyone know where the vault is
in the dungeon?

Thanks!

Harry




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Hi,

I am stumped by the location of soli's key!  I have searched the
entire sewer dungeon, but cannot work out how to get soli's key!

Can someone help me plz?

Also - I bought the vault key, does anyone know where the vault is
in the dungeon?

Thanks!

Harry

OK , after a year or more away after completing Demelza Ive decided
to play it again and Ive done the same daft thing. Ive just found
out Demelza is a traitor and have to go to the pub in the East of
the Marshes but Ive forgotten the password again. I did exactly the
same thing over a year ago ( see post 1517).
Can anyone email me the password or provide a very unsubtle clue
please.

Rory

Hey guys! I finished DB2:ROK a while back and started again. I
didn't like being a weakling all over again, so I found a way to edit
my characters right on my palm. Write down the values under
statistics in the game and use the hex below to convert them. Then
SAVE your game and then with a program called RsrcEdit open the file
called Drg2SaveMSRK. This will give you a list starting at 0 and
going to 8. The 0 file is the temp and cannot be edited! (DO NOT
ATTEMPT TO EDIT FILE 0!!!!) File 1 is the game you saved (assumming
you have not saved any other game in the works!) Scroll down (in the
hex editor) untill you find the name of the character you want to
modify and do so by fiding the hex values you got from the ingame
statistics and increasing there value. (i.e. - if the strenght of a
character is 10 in the hex that canverts to 0A. I would find this
value in the hex under the character name where I got the 10 from and
change it to 20. Now When i RELOAD my saved game this chracters
strenght is now 32 instead of 10!!) DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE
CHARACTERS NAME UNLESS THE NAME YOU ARE CHANGING IT TO HAS THE SAME
AMOUNT OF LETTERS!!! You must stop editing three spaces from the
next characters name or you will delete it! Save your changes by
clicking 'done' and and open your saved game in DB2 (i.e. - RELOAD
IT) and look at your changes. Write down the values under statistics
in the game and use the hex below to convert them and then go looking
for them in the hex under the right character name or just play
around with it untill you have all your stats maxed out and beyond!
I am now a level 255 knight!

There are even some special items that you can only use by editing
your game file this way! (Such as 'light lite full armor and
invisiblity cloak' which makes you invisible to the monsters [but you
can still attack them!] it gives off enough lite so you'll never use
a torch again, and it's a lite full set of armor that cannot be
pierced)

DO NOT EDIT ANY FILE IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR HAVE ACCESS TO
SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS HEX!
DO NOT TRY TO EDIT AND SAVE GAME FILES YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE BECAUSE
THIS CAN HAPPEN!

A LITTLE HEX HERE:
00=0
01=1
02=2
03=3
04=4
05=5
06=6
07=7
08=8
09=9
0A=10
0B=11
0C=12
0D=13
0E=14
0F=15
10=16
11=17
12=18
13=19
14=20
15=21
16=22
17=23
18=24
19=25
1A=26
1B=27
1C=28
1D=29
1E=30
1F=31
20=32
ETC...
FF Is the highest it can go but if you set your values too high it
can be a bad thing so watch out!



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Hey guys!  I finished DB2:ROK a while back and started again.  I
didn't like being a weakling all over again, so I found a way to edit
my characters right on my palm. Write down the values under
statistics in the game and use the hex below to convert them. Then
SAVE your game and then with a program called RsrcEdit open the file
called Drg2SaveMSRK.  This will give you a list starting at 0 and
going to 8.  The 0 file is the temp and cannot be edited! (DO NOT
ATTEMPT TO EDIT FILE 0!!!!) File 1 is the game you saved (assumming
you have not saved any other game in the works!)  Scroll down (in the
hex editor) untill you find the name of the character you want to
modify and do so by fiding the hex values you got from the ingame
statistics and increasing there value. (i.e. - if the strenght of a
character is 10 in the hex that canverts to 0A.  I would find this
value in the hex under the character name where I got the 10 from and
change it to 20.  Now When i RELOAD my saved game this chracters
strenght is now 32 instead of 10!!) DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE
CHARACTERS NAME UNLESS THE NAME YOU ARE CHANGING IT TO HAS THE SAME
AMOUNT OF LETTERS!!!  You must stop editing three spaces from the
next characters name or you will delete it! Save your changes by
clicking 'done' and and open your saved game in DB2 (i.e. - RELOAD
IT) and look at your changes.  Write down the values under statistics
in the game and use the hex below to convert them and then go looking
for them in the hex under the right character name or just play
around with it untill you have all your stats maxed out and beyond!
I am now a level 255 knight!

There are even some special items that you can only use by editing
your game file this way!  (Such as 'light lite full armor and
invisiblity cloak' which makes you invisible to the monsters [but you
can still attack them!] it gives off enough lite so you'll never use
a torch again, and it's a lite full set of armor that cannot be
pierced)

DO NOT EDIT ANY FILE IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR HAVE ACCESS TO
SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS HEX!
DO NOT TRY TO EDIT AND SAVE GAME FILES YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE BECAUSE
THIS CAN HAPPEN!

A LITTLE HEX HERE:
00=0
01=1
02=2
03=3
04=4
05=5
06=6
07=7
08=8
09=9
0A=10
0B=11
0C=12
0D=13
0E=14
0F=15
10=16
11=17
12=18
13=19
14=20
15=21
16=22
17=23
18=24
19=25
1A=26
1B=27
1C=28
1D=29
1E=30
1F=31
20=32
ETC...
FF Is the highest it can go but if you set your values too high it
can be a bad thing so watch out!

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. November 2003 23:42
An: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [DragonBaneII] Re: need to wait until next full moon??? That is 28 more days!!!!

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "youngpalmuser
<youngpalmuser@y...>" <youngpalmuser@y...> wrote:
> I found Demelza in the swamp catacomb, but she said that I need to
> pick up somethingin the box south west of Moor.  When I reached the
> box, it said that we have to go back full moon.  It was 17th of the
> month, how come we had to wait and kill time for the next 28 days? 
> What could I do?  That is just not funny at all !!!  Help.

Same problem - how did you resolve it?




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<youngpalmuser@y...>" <youngpalmuser@y...> wrote:
> I found Demelza in the swamp catacomb, but she said that I need to
> pick up somethingin the box south west of Moor.  When I reached the
> box, it said that we have to go back full moon.  It was 17th of the
> month, how come we had to wait and kill time for the next 28 days?
> What could I do?  That is just not funny at all !!!  Help.

Same problem - how did you resolve it?

Anyone or Simon,

I had gone back to 1,26. This button was depressed in the beginning
of the game, can you tell me what it does? I can not unpress it! Will
it allow me to get into the gray area? Please respond as soon as
possissible!!!! Still going around in circles!!!! Thanks!

Regards,
Mike Quinn