Try "DEMELZA"

Regards,

Simon Jacobs
Princess Demelza Author

  -----Original Message-----
From:  Kurt Giesselman [mailto:froglips@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 5:56 AM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Psst!  (What did he say?)

I am just starting Demzela and haven't even left town.  I was in the
SW section and got called over to be told about the tavern I should
visit.  When I went to the tavern the barkeep asked for a password.
I tried revenge.  I went back to try to get the whispered
instructions again but now he is gone.  I clearly forgot something in
what he said (like what word to enter).




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I'm in the dungeons (18,3) under the Island of Fortress, /in Princess Demelza/ please, have you guessed the entrance code? Thanks! Jarmila

Hello again Mike.

Sorry to take so long to reply.

Firstly, at 17,15 in the lair of pits - put your back into it means exactly
that. You can only walk through the wall with a scratch by walking through
it backwards!

The reason you found this wall is because you correctly activated the force
field with the button you mention.

Basically, walk everywhere you can on this map and don't try to use save
games as short cuts. Only use them to progress further.

Good luck and I am sorry about the delayed responses but I am working on
another project...
Simon.

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From:       Michael P. Quinn [mailto:mikepq@...]
Sent:      Thursday, 18 September 2003 07:31
To:      DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject:      [DragonBaneII] Demezla: No way out of the two rooms in Lair
of Pits (17,15).

Anybody or Simon,

Have fallen through hole in floor to little room, it only has a two
sided gateway and next to gateway are two scraches on the wall, the
is suppost to give way but I can not budge it(17,15). Can some one
please help as there is no way out!

When I go through the gateway and end up in an elongated room. I land
on this square (8,25), however, I for the life of me can not figure
what that square does, if any thing. I have found the switch on the
north wall but it only opens the gateway at the far end, that only
puts me back into the other room. Talk about circle games!

Please respond soon as I have been here for four weeks. I did go back
in saved games to make Level 13, but to no avail.

Regards,
Mike Quinn



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I am just starting Demzela and haven't even left town.  I was in the
SW section and got called over to be told about the tavern I should
visit.  When I went to the tavern the barkeep asked for a password.
I tried revenge.  I went back to try to get the whispered
instructions again but now he is gone.  I clearly forgot something in
what he said (like what word to enter).

Hello again Mike.

Sorry to take so long to reply.

Firstly, at 17,15 in the lair of pits - put your back into it means exactly
that. You can only walk through the wall with a scratch by walking through
it backwards!

The reason you found this wall is because you correctly activated the force
field with the button you mention.

Basically, walk everywhere you can on this map and don't try to use save
games as short cuts. Only use them to progress further.

Good luck and I am sorry about the delayed responses but I am working on
another project...
Simon.

  -----Original Message-----
From:  Michael P. Quinn [mailto:mikepq@...]
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 07:31
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Demezla: No way out of the two rooms in Lair
of Pits (17,15).

Anybody or Simon,

Have fallen through hole in floor to little room, it only has a two
sided gateway and next to gateway are two scraches on the wall, the
is suppost to give way but I can not budge it(17,15). Can some one
please help as there is no way out!

When I go through the gateway and end up in an elongated room. I land
on this square (8,25), however, I for the life of me can not figure
what that square does, if any thing. I have found the switch on the
north wall but it only opens the gatway at the far end, that only
puts me back inot the other room. Talk about circle games!

Please respond soon as I have been here for four weeks. I did go back
in saved games to make Level 13, but to no avail.

Regards,
Mike Quinn



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Caleb does learn Near Foe. You have to remember that it is a second level spell not a first level one. I think that is the only spell he knows. Congratulations to Allosaurus03 to finish Kra'an! Did you do the Easter Egg level yet?

 

Cheers,

Chris Kim

 

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From: Bert Latamore

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:20

Subject: Re: [DragonBaneII] Re: Caleb Has No Near Foe Spell in Level 15??? Help!!!

I don't think Caleb every learns spells, although he does have spell points. Some characters don't.

 

Bert

allosaurus03 <allosaurus03@...> wrote:

Never mind.
Took my party up to level 16 and finished Kra'an with a 9 count wand
of attraction. Never did get Caleb to learn the near foe spell,
though.
Now back to my regularly scheduled live already in progress.

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> I am at the battle against Kra'an and my Level 15 Caleb does not
seem
> to able to cast the near foe spell leaving me out of reach of
Kra'an.
> Does Caleb require a higher level or more inteligence (he has a
> cureent intelligence of 16) before he learns the spell?
>
> Thanks!!



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----- Original Message -----

From: Bert Latamore

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:20

Subject: Re: [DragonBaneII] Re: Caleb Has No Near Foe Spell in Level 15??? Help!!!

I don't think Caleb every learns spells, although he does have spell points. Some characters don't.

 

Bert

allosaurus03 <allosaurus03@...> wrote:

Never mind.
Took my party up to level 16 and finished Kra'an with a 9 count wand
of attraction. Never did get Caleb to learn the near foe spell,
though.
Now back to my regularly scheduled live already in progress.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "allosaurus03"
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> I am at the battle against Kra'an and my Level 15 Caleb does not
seem
> to able to cast the near foe spell leaving me out of reach of
Kra'an.
> Does Caleb require a higher level or more inteligence (he has a
> cureent intelligence of 16) before he learns the spell?
>
> Thanks!!



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Never mind.
Took my party up to level 16 and finished Kra'an with a 9 count wand
of attraction. Never did get Caleb to learn the near foe spell,
though.
Now back to my regularly scheduled live already in progress.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "allosaurus03"
wrote:
> I am at the battle against Kra'an and my Level 15 Caleb does not
seem
> to able to cast the near foe spell leaving me out of reach of
Kra'an.
> Does Caleb require a higher level or more inteligence (he has a
> cureent intelligence of 16) before he learns the spell?
>
> Thanks!!



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Never mind.
Took my party up to level 16 and finished Kra'an with a 9 count wand
of attraction. Never did get Caleb to learn the near foe spell,
though.
Now back to my regularly scheduled live already in progress.

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "allosaurus03"
<allosaurus03@y...> wrote:
> I am at the battle against Kra'an and my Level 15 Caleb does not
seem
> to able to cast the near foe spell leaving me out of reach of
Kra'an.
> Does Caleb require a higher level or more inteligence (he has a
> cureent intelligence of 16) before he learns the spell?
>
> Thanks!!

Part of my problem seems to be acessing characters.  The help files
I have read seem to want me to use my Grafiti panel .... I don't use
one on the Tungsten .. don't need to.  I'll figger it out I suppose,
given time LOL.  Lots and lots of time LOL.

Scriptor

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Bert Latamore
<bertlatamore@y...> wrote:
> To light a torch you first have to have it in the inventory of one
of your characters. Then just go to the character's inventory and
select it (check the box) and it is lit. Note that you will also
want to select any arms (swords, etc.), armor or shields any of your
characters may have so that they can fight with them. You can of
course select an alternative weapon or device to use during a
specific round of fighting by choosing "select item" and then
tapping the item you want the character to use that round, but it is
much easier in general to have the character already "holding"
his/her main weapon. Then all you have to do is order that character
to fight.
>
> Bert
>
> Scriptor <scriptor@p...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm very new at this. I've just entered the first dungeon. It's
> dark down there . I can't however fogure out how to light
> torches or cast any sort of light spell. I'm playing on a Tungsten
> C.
>
> Thanks so much if you can help.
>
> Scriptor
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Hello,

I'm very new at this. I've just entered the first dungeon. It's
dark down there . I can't however fogure out how to light
torches or cast any sort of light spell. I'm playing on a Tungsten
C.

Thanks so much if you can help.

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Hello,

I'm very new at this.  I've just entered the first dungeon.  It's
dark down there <G>.  I can't however fogure out how to light
torches or cast any sort of light spell.  I'm playing on a Tungsten
C.

Thanks so much if you can help.

Scriptor

I am at the battle against Kra'an and my Level 15 Caleb does not seem
to able to cast the near foe spell leaving me out of reach of Kra'an.
Does Caleb require a higher level or more inteligence (he has a
cureent intelligence of 16) before he learns the spell?

Thanks!!

I also play on a Tungsten C.  I was about to ask the same question.
I'll have to give this a try!

Scriptor


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wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I do not work for Mythological Software.
>
> Does the Tungsten C have a built in keyboard?
>
> http://www.mythological.com/db2_faq.htm
>
> "Q: How can I play on my HandSpring Treo - there are no silkscreen
> keys on that device to access the party view and overhead map.
>
> a)LapTopHack ($14.95) allows you to configure those keys so you
can
> play Dragon Bane 1 or 2 on the Treo
>
> b)MythoLogical included a special Treo fix that allows users to
> access those screens with the 'm' (map view) and 'p' (party view)
> keys in Dragon Bane II V1.0.3 "
>
> -NEFTF
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "mepondermd"
<mepondermd@y...>
> wrote:
> > Is this playable on a Tungsten C?  I tried with the demo to
remap
> the calculator to a
> > hard button, since you can use the 5-way pad, but it still
doesn't
> work.  The game
> > appeared playable in all manners other than that, but losing
access
> to the character
> > screen is catastrophic, to my mind at least.  Any workarounds?
> >
> > Mark Ponder

Anybody or Simon,

Have fallen through hole in floor to little room, it only has a two
sided gateway and next to gateway are two scraches on the wall, the
is suppost to give way but I can not budge it(17,15). Can some one
please help as there is no way out!

When I go through the gateway and end up in an elongated room. I land
on this square (8,25), however, I for the life of me can not figure
what that square does, if any thing. I have found the switch on the
north wall but it only opens the gatway at the far end, that only
puts me back inot the other room. Talk about circle games!

Please respond soon as I have been here for four weeks. I did go back
in saved games to make Level 13, but to no avail.

Regards,
Mike Quinn

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "blechtasse2002"
<blechtasse2002@y...> wrote:
> I need help installing Demelza on Zaurus. I copied "Prinzess
> Demelza.pdb" in /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/db2/ where all
other  .pdb
> resists. Unfortunately I will not see "Prinzess Demelza" in the
start
> list when trying to start a "New" Adventure.
>
> I am using DB 1.0.5 (registered).
>
> Thanks for your help

I have solved it - I had to do the links to /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/db2/
manually. Now it works.

I need help installing Demelza on Zaurus. I copied "Prinzess
Demelza.pdb" in /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/db2/ where all other  .pdb
resists. Unfortunately I will not see "Prinzess Demelza" in the start
list when trying to start a "New" Adventure.

I am using DB 1.0.5 (registered).

Thanks for your help

Actually, Yahoo has a setting to only moderate "new" members.  So
we'll try that for a while -- hopefully there will continue to be no
posting delay for old members.

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wrote:
>
> We'll start moderating the posts until it goes away.  So you may
> start to see a short delay from the time your post is submitted
> until the time we receive and approve it.
>
> MythoLogical
>
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> wrote:
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> like an
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> interested
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Actually, Yahoo has a setting to only moderate "new" members.  So
we'll try that for a while -- hopefully there will continue to be no
posting delay for old members.

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> We'll start moderating the posts until it goes away.  So you may
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>
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We'll start moderating the posts until it goes away.  So you may
start to see a short delay from the time your post is submitted
until the time we receive and approve it.

MythoLogical

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wrote:
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like an
> antispam device available at Yahoo? I guess most people here are
interested
> in Kraan/Demelza, not this junk!
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: serraqi_arctogaidphumanr5
> [mailto:serraqi_arctogaidphumanr5@y...]
>   Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:10 PM
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>   Subject: [DragonBaneII] transfer dvd on cd
>
>
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Hi, folks. I gave Demelza to the first person who responded, so it's
gone. Thanks.

I recently finished ROK and thought it was a very good game, even
though it took so many (enjoyable) hours that the rest of my life
went down the tubes. It was so much fun, in fact, that my willpower
broke down and I tried the Demelza demo. After two days of play, I
decided today to buy it. That was a mistake.
    No doubt you can discount the opinion of someone who only spent
three days playing the game. Obviously, I might have missed many of
the intricacies. But I feel compelled to say that Demelza has too
many flaws to make it worthwhile.
    Yes, there are some good things about the game. Read the promo.
It's a big game, it has multiple solutions, it's different from ROK!
If you are totally hooked on DB2, go for it. What choice do you have?
    Here are the things I don't like about it. Whereas ROK was a
tightly-constructed game, by which I mean the author seemed to have
thought of everything and paid attention to details, Demelza is good
in the big picture but lacking in fine points. For example, many of
the early (and that's all I had) battles with monsters are
completely predictable. Also, although the maps are interesting, it
is too hard to get around - there are trees everywhere getting in
your way for no good purpose. And, in spite of the new maps (which
are interesting, I admit) and optional solutions (going up or going
down), there isn't (in the first couple of days) anything really
revolutionary.
    In spite of all that, I bought Demelza today after two days of
trying it out. It does have appeal. But what really fried me was a
puzzle I just did not like. ** NOTE: POSSIBLE SPOILER HERE. ** And
that was the closing of the inns. I'd been battling on, no hints,
when three of my crew were made insane. I didn't have any way to get
them Prozac or whatever, so the obvious choice was to get someone
who could cast a spell and cure them. No way. Okay, I admit, this is
probably an excellent part of the game, a clever puzzle with an
amazing solution. It wouldn't surprise me at all, because the game
has a good design. But I didn't like it, especially since I am still
aching from spending so many hours on ROK. I spent about 4 DB days
banging on the doors of inns, but they just stayed closed (which, in
a reality kind of way, doesn't make any sense). Anyway, it was so
frustrating that I decided to give up, and I deleted Demelza, ROK
(what was left of the Easter Egg level), and DB itself from my PDA.
Time to move on.
    As I said, I bought Demelza today and I'm not going to play it,
ever. I think it is fair, reasonable, and legal to give it away. I
hate to see my money simply lost. So I will give my copy of the
registered version to the first (and only the first!) person who
writes to me at FreeDemelza@.... I hope you have better
success (and more patience) than I did.

Hmm, this bugged me, so I chased it down a little bit. I've never
heard or seen "beckon call" anywhere, but that doesn't mean it's
wrong. According to "Take Our Word For It" - the word origin webzine
at http://www.takeourword.com/TOW186/page4.html

From Luke McElligott:
I abhor the use of beck and call when it should be written beckon
call, as in the call was beckoning....  Please help me to put this to
rights.

TOWFI's response:
Oops, Luke, actually, the phrase is beck and call and always has
been.  Beck is the same word as beckon, though, so you're on the
right track.  To be at one's beck and call is to respond when he
beckons you and/or calls you.  It dates from the mid-19th century.


--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Simon Jacobs <simon_jacobs@a...>
wrote:
> Yes thank you!

>  -----Original Message-----
> From:  hank_5 [mailto:henry5@m...]
> Just noticed something....Briston Fisk says he is at your "Beck &
> Call", but that should be BECKON call....
>
> Don't know if Simon is still making updates....
>

Yes thank you!

Regards,

Simon Jacobs
Princess Demelza Author

  -----Original Message-----
From:  hank_5 [mailto:henry5@...]
Sent: Friday, 5 September 2003 2:32 AM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Briston Fisk

Just noticed something....Briston Fisk says he is at your "Beck &
Call", but that should be BECKON call....

Don't know if Simon is still making updates....



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Just noticed something....Briston Fisk says he is at your "Beck &
Call", but that should be BECKON call....

Don't know if Simon is still making updates....

Result ! - Thanks, much appreciated

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "hank_5" <henry5@m...> wrote:
> Deceit?  I didn't keep track....
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <babel7734@y...> wrote:
> > Tried Revenge but it just says "Try again".
> >
> > Any other ideas ?
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<lllarry98765@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Try Revenge
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> > >
> > > "Such treachery against your king is the key to pass through
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> > Whats
> > > the password ?
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Deceit?  I didn't keep track....

--- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <babel7734@y...> wrote:
> Tried Revenge but it just says "Try again".
>
> Any other ideas ?
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com, Larry Love <lllarry98765@y...>
> wrote:
> > Try Revenge
> >
> > Phil <babel7734@y...> wrote:At the old tavern in the Marsh...
> >
> > "Such treachery against your king is the key to pass through
here!"
> >
> > Been wracking my brains for days now and it's driving me mad -
> Whats
> > the password ?
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT
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