-----Original Message-----
From: neftf [mailto:Cyb0Au0Dragon215@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:06 AM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] DB2ACK Monster Management

Dear Jason or Gabe

What is the formula used to determine that a party is too high level,
and a monster/ all monsters in the .MAP file will avoid the party?

Thank you for your time and help in this matter

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF




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Dear Jason or Gabe

What is the formula used to determine that a party is too high level,
and a monster/ all monsters in the .MAP file will avoid the party?

Thank you for your time and help in this matter

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

-----Original Message-----
From: rmlevasseur [mailto:rmlevasseur@...]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:19 PM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] stuck

I just completed level one and purchased the upgrade.  I am now
looking for the wizard to deal with the figurine.  I have a vault key
but can't find the damn vault, or a sewer key.  Need some help pls.


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----- Original Message -----

From: Dirk Kiner M.D.

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 3:07 PM

Subject: Re: [DragonBaneII] stuck

Far as I can tell the vault key is a scam. Think we
both bought a 300 gold piece paper weight.  Sorry
champ.
--- rmlevasseur <rmlevasseur@...> wrote:
> I just completed level one and purchased the
> upgrade.  I am now
> looking for the wizard to deal with the figurine.  I
> have a vault key
> but can't find the damn vault, or a sewer key.  Need
> some help pls.
>
>


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Far as I can tell the vault key is a scam. Think we
both bought a 300 gold piece paper weight.  Sorry
champ.
--- rmlevasseur <rmlevasseur@...> wrote:
> I just completed level one and purchased the
> upgrade.  I am now
> looking for the wizard to deal with the figurine.  I
> have a vault key
> but can't find the damn vault, or a sewer key.  Need
> some help pls.
>
>


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Where do I find the Dragonscale Gloves?

I just completed level one and purchased the upgrade.  I am now
looking for the wizard to deal with the figurine.  I have a vault key
but can't find the damn vault, or a sewer key.  Need some help pls.

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., <bglassford@s...> wrote:
> Thanks to all -- I finally got it!!
> >
> > From: "dirkkiner" <dirkkiner@y...>
> >
> > Been through the dungeon in town and only found one key.  Have
been
> > everywhere else on the map including the goofy hut village but
cannot
> > get past all of the other locked gates. HELP!!!
> >
>
> Have you been down to the second level of the cellar in town?
>
> If you're stuck on the first level, not all locked doors use keys -
some you have to do other things to open (like press switches & run
like crazy).

>
> From: "dirkkiner" <dirkkiner@...>
>
> Been through the dungeon in town and only found one key.  Have been
> everywhere else on the map including the goofy hut village but cannot
> get past all of the other locked gates. HELP!!!
>

Have you been down to the second level of the cellar in town?

If you're stuck on the first level, not all locked doors use keys - some you
have to do other things to open (like press switches & run like crazy).

-----Original Message-----
From: dirkkiner [mailto:dirkkiner@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:32 AM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Help I am Stuck

Been through the dungeon in town and only found one key.  Have been
everywhere else on the map including the goofy hut village but cannot
get past all of the other locked gates. HELP!!!

Been through the dungeon in town and only found one key.  Have been
everywhere else on the map including the goofy hut village but cannot
get past all of the other locked gates. HELP!!!

Hi,

I think it depends on the level of your spell casting characters. The Mage
shop would reflect this. The items at the shop are random and are changed
daily I think. I don't know the level of your characters - they may be too
weak or too strong. Another way I think is to earn them killing monsters of
a certain level.

Kra'an is immune to magic spells (at least those of attack). Thus, shadow of
death won't work. You can only inflict spell points using DragonBane. You
can use Near Foe and Beserk on him (though his guardians usually cast soul
shadow to negate this pretty quickly).

Cheers,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "rhgindc" <rhgindc@...>
To: <DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 19:15
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Wand of attraction


> where can i find one of these? they are not available at the arbor
> crest magic items shoppe. this would be helpful in fighting Kr'aan!
>
> also, i've been casting "shadow of death" at Kr'aan and they don't
> seem to affect him at all. what gives?
>
> thanks,
> Ray
>
>
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You do need a new license key... totally different game. You have to pay
for DB 2, and they will give you a new license key.

At 11:06 PM 5/20/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi! I'm updating my dragon bane 1 to dragon bane 2. They said that I
>don't need a new  license key but so far that hasn't worked and when
>I sent the company e-mail that said that it's fine. The darn thing
>just won't register. Anyone got any ideas? I can't get past the demo
>levels.
>
>Thanks, Riza

Dana Marshall
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<http://www.danawheels.net>

where can i find one of these? they are not available at the arbor
crest magic items shoppe. this would be helpful in fighting Kr'aan!

also, i've been casting "shadow of death" at Kr'aan and they don't
seem to affect him at all. what gives?

thanks,
Ray

Dear trade1964,

You can also tap the screen with your stylus to play Dragon Bane 2:
Return of Kra'an (DB2:MSRK) instead of using the buttons.  For
example tapping anywere on the center of the bottom 1/4 of the screen
causes you to move backward.

Old keyboards used to wear out more frequently if you hammered on the
keys.  Try using a lighter touch on the PDA buttons.  They are
sensitive enough that little pressure is needed.  Also try and go
slower, people are more prone to hammering on buttons and keys when
they are rushing.  Unlike an arcade game, there is no time limit on
DB2:MSRK.  Mostly the game pad is designed for arcade games where you
hammer the keys.  I too was worried about this originally, but have
had no problem with my buttons playing DB2:MSRK.

I believe Craig has played some very long games of DB2:MSRK, for
example solo thief to 26th level.  So the buttons are probably okay
as long as you stick to non-arcade games.

You can download POSE and play DB2:MSRK on your PC (see below links)

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

Digression:  My biggest problem was I twice ran the battery down too
low to recharge.  Once I played for a two days straight and ran the
battery from full to empty.  I had to recondition the battery on my
m500.  Try and keep a rechargable PDA at least 1/2 charged or better
if playing DB2:MSRK because it puts a high density drain on the
battery.

I like playing DB2:MSRK on my PC because I don't have to worry about
battery or buttons.  I also signed up as a hobbyist - I am designing
a DB2 adventure- so I can play it in color even though my PDA is not
color.

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Craig Davis <crd@p...> wrote:
> PS: I did not break the buttons on my m505 playtesting DB2 through
5 times to completion and 8 others to the castle.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: trade1964
>   Is there a game pad extention or button add on for the palm
>   M505? I'm concerned about using my buttons so much that they
>   break.

------------Original Message-----------------
Dear Dana,

The Palm OS Emulator (POSE) is designed for developing Palm programs,
I originally heard of it from the book __Palm Pilot: The Ultimate
Guide.  2nd Edition_ Author David Pogue, Published by O'Reilly (they
include a copy on the book's CD-ROM).  However it can be used to run
Palm programs on your desktop computer, especially if you keep
wearing out the keys of your PDA playing Dragon Bane 1 & 2.

There are three levels to POSE.  The first and easiest is to transfer
your PDA to your computer.  To do so use the below link POSE
DOWNLOAD.  Unzip the download and follow the directions to set up
POSE on your computer.  You will use your PDA as the template, so it
will be identical.  I wanted to play DB2 in color, but I have a Palm
m500 and a Palm V- both Black & White- so I continued onward.

The second level, Palm Developer Outside USA, can add color outside
the USA.  Since I am inside the USA I skipped to the third level.

The third level is to sign up for Palm Developer Inside USA.  Use the
below link JOIN DEVELOPER PROGRAM.  At the required line "*What best
describes your role in the Palm Economy?" I entered HOBBYIST.
For "What additional roles do you or your company focus on, if any?
(This information is optional)" I answered SHAREWARE DEVELOPER.  I
applied for the Basic Membership (Free).  Since the form wasn't
clear, under both "*Company" and "*Title" I entered INDEPENDENT
DEVELOPER (HOBBYIST).  For "*What tools are you using to develop on
this platform? (check all that apply)" I selected Other and entered
DRAGON BANE 2 ADVENTURE CONSTRUCTION KIT, since I am creating a new
adventure for Dragon Bane 2.  Once my application was accepted, I
downloaded the Palm m505 file at the below link PALM M505 DOWNLOAD.
Since I was in the USA, I agreed to the export limits and then I
selected the Palm OS 4.1 download and followed the directions to set
up POSE as a m505.

I move the current game-Drg2SaveMSRK.PDB or Drg2SaveTMHA.PDB- to my
PDA when I'm leaving home for a while, and move it back to my desktop
computer when I want to play it in color.  Currently I am
replaying "Return of Kra'an" to get a feel for proper treasure
placement.  <grin> It will take me forever to find all 9 sunfruits
again.

For the second level if you are outside the USA, you can use the PALM
IIIC DOWNLOAD below.  Download Palm 3.5 ROM Type.

I hope that helps.  If you have any questions you can post here, or
talk to Palm.com.

Sincerely yours,
Nuke 'em from 20'

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> Um, can you post where to get the program to run Palm programs on
your
> desktop machine? I tried to find it, and no luck.
>
> Dana

=========================
POSE DOWNLOAD
Palm OS® Emulator
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/emulator

JOIN DEVELOPER PROGRAM
Palm OS Developer Program
http://www.palmos.com/dev/programs/pdp/join.html

PALM M505 DOWNLOAD
Web Clipping ROM Image Downloads Export
http://www.palmos.com/alliance/resources.cgi/devseed/roms/encryption-
export.html

PALM IIIC DOWNLOAD
Palm OS: Pavilion - ROM Image File Downloads (devseed)
http://www.palmos.com/alliance/resources.cgi/devseed/roms/

----- Original Message -----

From: trade1964

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:10 PM

Subject: [DragonBaneII] M505 Buttons

Is there a game pad extention or button add on for the palm
M505? I'm concerned about using my buttons so much that they
break.

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Is there a game pad extention or button add on for the palm
M505? I'm concerned about using my buttons so much that they
break.

Please respond to:
jimcasy@...

----- Original Message -----

From: rhgindc

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:29 PM

Subject: [DragonBaneII] questions?

I have 2 unrelated general questions:
1) there's a monster called a crypt stealer ( i think) who will steal
about 100 gold pieces from my party yet when he gets killed the party
only recovers about 90 gold pieces.  what's up with that? how come i
don't get all of the original 100 gold pieces back?

2) there's been mention of playing DB2 w/ just one player. how is
that possible? in just beating Lord Kr'All and his 3 dark knights it
took almost EVERTHING i had from my party of 5 characters (all at
Level 10 experience) to fend them off, I can't even imagine just one
character doing it all alone.

Thanks,
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Here are some comments below:

----- Original Message -----
From: "rhgindc" <rhgindc@...>
To: <DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 15:29
Subject: [DragonBaneII] questions?


> I have 2 unrelated general questions:
> 1) there's a monster called a crypt stealer ( i think) who will steal
> about 100 gold pieces from my party yet when he gets killed the party
> only recovers about 90 gold pieces.  what's up with that? how come i
> don't get all of the original 100 gold pieces back?

This was an interesting question raised in beta testing. It was the
designers' feeling that there should be some penalty in encountering the
monsters - call it a tax. Yes, I know in "real life" all the money or more
should be on the crypt stealer's body.

>
> 2) there's been mention of playing DB2 w/ just one player. how is
> that possible? in just beating Lord Kr'All and his 3 dark knights it
> took almost EVERTHING i had from my party of 5 characters (all at
> Level 10 experience) to fend them off, I can't even imagine just one
> character doing it all alone.
>

I can't address this question, but there was a brief discussion about this
about a month ago. With the original DB, it was possible to do this with one
character. However, in DB2, because of the decision to limit gold pieces per
monster, harder monsters, etc, it is very difficult if not impossible to do.
What some people have suggested is using elementals via wands or the cast of
extra high level characters you encounter in Stonefield Castle to cast
elementals for you. You can also use these extra characters to use heal
spells on you when you stop by. If you have a thief, you can cast Alchemy
and Materialize to create gold for healing. However, unless you find a wand
of  ??? (the one that makes portals)you are almost limited to Poe, Mordor,
or whomever can cast Open Portal/Gateway. However, I think it is doable
without this, but you will have to do a lot of running back and forth from
far away places back to New Treleon to charge up.

> Thanks,
> Ray
>
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At 07:29 PM 5/14/02 +0000, you wrote:
>I have 2 unrelated general questions:
>1) there's a monster called a crypt stealer ( i think) who will steal
>about 100 gold pieces from my party yet when he gets killed the party
>only recovers about 90 gold pieces.  what's up with that? how come i
>don't get all of the original 100 gold pieces back?

Hey, just hope he doesn't steal any items, 'cause you don't get them back,
either. *sigh* You'd think you would, too.

>2) there's been mention of playing DB2 w/ just one player. how is
>that possible? in just beating Lord Kr'All and his 3 dark knights it
>took almost EVERTHING i had from my party of 5 characters (all at
>Level 10 experience) to fend them off, I can't even imagine just one
>character doing it all alone.

Level 10??? Oh, man, you have GOT to be kidding. My party of 5 is level 17,
and well, I had fun dying a few times. *grin*

>Thanks,
>Ray

Dana Marshall
handheld@...
<http://www.danawheels.net>

I have 2 unrelated general questions:
1) there's a monster called a crypt stealer ( i think) who will steal
about 100 gold pieces from my party yet when he gets killed the party
only recovers about 90 gold pieces.  what's up with that? how come i
don't get all of the original 100 gold pieces back?

2) there's been mention of playing DB2 w/ just one player. how is
that possible? in just beating Lord Kr'All and his 3 dark knights it
took almost EVERTHING i had from my party of 5 characters (all at
Level 10 experience) to fend them off, I can't even imagine just one
character doing it all alone.

Thanks,
Ray

----- Original Message -----

From: Dana Marshall

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:19 AM

Subject: Re: [DragonBaneII] Party of one is no fun

Can you have more than one elemental at a time in your party if you have
the slots for it? Or is it just one elemental in that last party slot? If
you CAN, then you should be able to do it with one party member. *grin*

At 05:04 PM 5/7/02 -0600, you wrote:

>OK, what I want to know is: Is anyone having fun playing with just one
>party member? I've tried it with a few different characters now, and it
>just isn't working for me. I won DB1 with every member one-at-a-time and
>had fun doing it. I think I was the guy that started the one-player party
>idea, but in DB2 it is just a lot of work.
>
>I think the difference is that in DB1 each player could find enough items,
>potions, and fruit to overcome his character's weaknesses and still be a
>force to be reckoned with. In DB2, the characters can't ever overcome
>their weaknesses. Also, money is a lot tighter in DB2.
>
>For example, the accuracy percentage makes non-fighters hard to work with.
>Even if you can get Poe to Kra'an, his accuracy of 10% with the DragonBane
>would seem to make it virtually impossible to beat the dragon. Also, in
>DB1 it was possible for a single character to earn enough money to heal
>occasionally at the temple, but in DB2, if you don't have a thief, you can
>never earn enough cash to heal, or even identify all items. The lack of
>money means that you have to have a magic user in order to heal. This
>means the minimum functional party must have a healer, thief, and probably
>a knight.
>
>I've enjoyed playing with parties of three, but I think I'll stick with
>full parties from now on. I still think DB2 is a great game, it's just
>different from DB1. Has anyone found a good alternative way to play DB2,
>other than with single-player parties?
>
>- Larry
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Can you have more than one elemental at a time in your party if you have
the slots for it? Or is it just one elemental in that last party slot? If
you CAN, then you should be able to do it with one party member. *grin*

At 05:04 PM 5/7/02 -0600, you wrote:

>OK, what I want to know is: Is anyone having fun playing with just one
>party member? I've tried it with a few different characters now, and it
>just isn't working for me. I won DB1 with every member one-at-a-time and
>had fun doing it. I think I was the guy that started the one-player party
>idea, but in DB2 it is just a lot of work.
>
>I think the difference is that in DB1 each player could find enough items,
>potions, and fruit to overcome his character's weaknesses and still be a
>force to be reckoned with. In DB2, the characters can't ever overcome
>their weaknesses. Also, money is a lot tighter in DB2.
>
>For example, the accuracy percentage makes non-fighters hard to work with.
>Even if you can get Poe to Kra'an, his accuracy of 10% with the DragonBane
>would seem to make it virtually impossible to beat the dragon. Also, in
>DB1 it was possible for a single character to earn enough money to heal
>occasionally at the temple, but in DB2, if you don't have a thief, you can
>never earn enough cash to heal, or even identify all items. The lack of
>money means that you have to have a magic user in order to heal. This
>means the minimum functional party must have a healer, thief, and probably
>a knight.
>
>I've enjoyed playing with parties of three, but I think I'll stick with
>full parties from now on. I still think DB2 is a great game, it's just
>different from DB1. Has anyone found a good alternative way to play DB2,
>other than with single-player parties?
>
>- Larry
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Dear Larry and Craig,

Normally I don't see any use for playing less than 5 characters.  But
while I am waiting for new adventures to come out, I thought I would
try solo adventuring because the solo character gets all the cool
potions/ fruits that give bonuses.  A solo character also gets 5
times the experience for killing a monster as a full party so
advancement is much quicker.

I agree with you both, that a solo non-fighter is incredibly
difficult in Dragon Bane 2: "Return of Kra'an" (DB2:MSRK).
Theoretically possible, but not worth the time and effort.  I lean
toward THIEF or DWARF since they get BELLIGERENCE.

I am playing my first solo adventure.  Currently I have a 6th level
DWARF- innate MAGIC COMPASS.  Money is much tighter.  I have been
healing/ getting money by adding  POE- TREAT PLAYER-, HERIC- ALCHEMY-
and MORDOR- WIZ WALL (or ENSIR- GRIZZLY)- to my party and running
around in the sun.  When I am done, I return them to the inn.  If I
ever get to STONEFIELD CASTLE it will be nice, HERIC- ALCHEMY,
OPHELIA- MATERIALZIE, CELEX- RESTORE ALL HEALTH and RUUL- BIND
SHOELAN.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Craig Davis <crd@p...> wrote:
> I agree that Gabe and Jason made it very difficult to use the non-
fighters singly when they insisted on making the dragon bane hit at
less than 100%.

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Larry Fluckiger
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:04 PM

>   OK, what I want to know is: Is anyone having fun playing with
just one party member?

>  Also, money is a lot tighter in DB2.

>   For example, the accuracy percentage makes non-fighters hard to
work with. Even if you can get Poe to Kra'an, his accuracy of 10%
with the DragonBane would seem to make it virtually impossible to
beat the dragon.

The lack of money means that you have to have a magic user in order
to heal.

>   - Larry

----- Original Message -----

From: Larry Fluckiger

To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:04 PM

Subject: [DragonBaneII] Party of one is no fun

OK, what I want to know is: Is anyone having fun playing with just one party member? I've tried it with a few different characters now, and it just isn't working for me. I won DB1 with every member one-at-a-time and had fun doing it. I think I was the guy that started the one-player party idea, but in DB2 it is just a lot of work.

I think the difference is that in DB1 each player could find enough items, potions, and fruit to overcome his character's weaknesses and still be a force to be reckoned with. In DB2, the characters can't ever overcome their weaknesses. Also, money is a lot tighter in DB2.

For example, the accuracy percentage makes non-fighters hard to work with. Even if you can get Poe to Kra'an, his accuracy of 10% with the DragonBane would seem to make it virtually impossible to beat the dragon. Also, in DB1 it was possible for a single character to earn enough money to heal occasionally at the temple, but in DB2, if you don't have a thief, you can never earn enough cash to heal, or even identify all items. The lack of money means that you have to have a magic user in order to heal. This means the minimum functional party must have a healer, thief, and probably a knight.

I've enjoyed playing with parties of three, but I think I'll stick with full parties from now on. I still think DB2 is a great game, it's just different from DB1. Has anyone found a good alternative way to play DB2, other than with single-player parties?

- Larry

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OK, what I want to know is: Is anyone having fun playing with just one party member? I've tried it with a few different characters now, and it just isn't working for me. I won DB1 with every member one-at-a-time and had fun doing it. I think I was the guy that started the one-player party idea, but in DB2 it is just a lot of work.

I think the difference is that in DB1 each player could find enough items, potions, and fruit to overcome his character's weaknesses and still be a force to be reckoned with. In DB2, the characters can't ever overcome their weaknesses. Also, money is a lot tighter in DB2.

For example, the accuracy percentage makes non-fighters hard to work with. Even if you can get Poe to Kra'an, his accuracy of 10% with the DragonBane would seem to make it virtually impossible to beat the dragon. Also, in DB1 it was possible for a single character to earn enough money to heal occasionally at the temple, but in DB2, if you don't have a thief, you can never earn enough cash to heal, or even identify all items. The lack of money means that you have to have a magic user in order to heal. This means the minimum functional party must have a healer, thief, and probably a knight.

I've enjoyed playing with parties of three, but I think I'll stick with full parties from now on. I still think DB2 is a great game, it's just different from DB1. Has anyone found a good alternative way to play DB2, other than with single-player parties?

- Larry

Dear Dragon Bane 2 Forum,

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The first time I played Dragone Bane 2: "Return of Kra'an"
(DB2:MSRK), one of my original complaints was the found character
levels were too low.  When UNGER joined, my party was 8th level.
When I found STONEFIELD CASTLE, my party was 16th level.  When I
first fought KRA'AN I had an 18th level party with a 14th level back
up thief.  Only later did I find out I was dramatically over prepared
for each map level.  But since I had searched every map square of
every map level, it was worth it.  I found lots of hidden treasure,
without the "reusable MAGIC MAP #1" cheat, and got every last drop of
enjoyment out of my $27.

On the second time through, if you like being over prepared, TALON
CLOISTER, SEWER 1, PRISON 2-3, GOBLIN PALACE, CRYPT 2-3, and TOWER 1-
4 are good places to get experience since you can find large groups
of monsters there.  In my opinion, on your second time through, the
faster you get to the next map level, the faster your party will
advance in levels.  New map levels mean new monsters worth more
experience points per monster.  Since you already know where all the
treasure is, you don't need to search every map square to find it.

Doing research for my own adventure, I deliberately blew through
DB2:MSRK to write down all the treasure.   Sometimes I had to fight
a "Boss Monster" twice, but one of the advantages to following the
walk-through is you can skip TOWER 1-4, go directly to the STONEFIELD
CASTLE, and get free experience.  All the characters in STONEFIELD
CASTLE had twice the experience of my walk-through characters (who
only had 82,327 experience).  I switched to the higher level
characters, then went back and cleaned out all the treasure in TOWER
1-4, getting lots of experience from all the GIANT COBRAS and LIZARD
WARRIORS.  Also the more monsters you defeat in an encounter, the
better chances for found items when you loot the bodies, so I found
lots of loot after fighting 4 GIANT COBRAS or 6 LIZARD WARRIORS.

I then used RUN against most of the 1-2 unit groups in RAAMTHA'S
DUNGEON and KRA'AN'S LAIR 1-2 since they offer so little experience
for so much effort.  The 2 GUARDIANS are dramatically under valued in
experience points for the amount of havoc they wreak on your party.
Better to just RUN.

During my treasure dash-through, I was able to beat KRA'AN with 15th
level characters and one 11th level THIEF.

Yes, I know, It should have been a 12th level THIEF with 82,327
experience points, but I forgot to promote him after I switched to
the 14th level characters in STONEFIELD CASTLE.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "markragland" <markragland@y...> wrote:
> My strategy has
> always been to be as "overprepared" for battle as possible.

> I have just begun the journey through Kra'an's Lair, and
> My team is at level 16.  For now, I go back and fight and will
> continue to do so until I reach level 18.  Only at that level will
I
> face Kra'an.

> This strategy is important, even in a modified fashion if you are
> following the walk-through.  The walk-through can get you past the
> different adventures quickly, at the expense of experience
> points....because there is not as much exploring and fighting if
you
> follow the walk-through to the letter.
>
> Just a suggestion.....I could be wrong.
>
> ....Mark

Dear Mark,

Mythological Software has put together a balanced adventure were a
wide variety of classes and levels can enjoy success against
individual map levels and "Boss Monsters".

There are two main strategies to getting experience.  In the
WILDERNESS, GIANT ANTS appear in groups of up to 5 units.  The more
monsters you fight at one time, the more experience points you get
per spellpoint you spend in ATTACK_GROUP and ATTACK_ALL spells.
However, the sooner you enter a new map level, the sooner you fight
higher level monsters that are worth more experience points.  Either
strategy works in the game.

I have always favorited the "search every map square" approach to
Dragon Bane 1 (DB1) and Dragon Bane 2: "Return of Kra'an" (DB2:MSRK)
since the treasure chests usually have better items than the random
items on dead monsters.  While hidden treasure chests often have
better items than treasure chests out in the open were anyone can
find them.   It also means I get every last drop of enjoyment out of
my $27.

The first time I played DB2:MSRK I explored the entire WILDERNESS-
were you can recharge- looking for SUNFRUIT before going into CELLAR
1, so I had access to LEVEL 2 spells like CALL GHOST OF KAELAN in
CELLAR 1.

Pick whichever strategy you like playing.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "markragland" <markragland@y...> wrote:
> When I fought the prince, I used Archer, Knight, Dwarf, Sorcerer,
> Wizard.  I was around level 10 or 11, however.  My strategy has
> always been to be as "overprepared" for battle as possible.  A lot
of
> times I'll go into a place, kill as many people as I can without
> taking the booty or the prize............teleport back, regenerate
> spell points by jogging, then go back 4 and 5 times collecting
> experience.  I have just begun the journey through Kra'an's Lair,
and
> My team is at level 16.  For now, I go back and fight and will
> continue to do so until I reach level 18.  Only at that level will
I
> face Kra'an.  It takes longer to to it this way because of all the
> regenerations, but the more experience I accumulate, the more
damage
> I do and the more accurate I am.
>
> This strategy is important, even in a modified fashion if you are
> following the walk-through.  The walk-through can get you past the
> different adventures quickly, at the expense of experience
> points....because there is not as much exploring and fighting if
you
> follow the walk-through to the letter.
>
> Just a suggestion.....I could be wrong.
>
> ....Mark

When I fought the prince, I used Archer, Knight, Dwarf, Sorcerer,
Wizard.  I was around level 10 or 11, however.  My strategy has
always been to be as "overprepared" for battle as possible.  A lot of
times I'll go into a place, kill as many people as I can without
taking the booty or the prize............teleport back, regenerate
spell points by jogging, then go back 4 and 5 times collecting
experience.  I have just begun the journey through Kra'an's Lair, and
My team is at level 16.  For now, I go back and fight and will
continue to do so until I reach level 18.  Only at that level will I
face Kra'an.  It takes longer to to it this way because of all the
regenerations, but the more experience I accumulate, the more damage
I do and the more accurate I am.

This strategy is important, even in a modified fashion if you are
following the walk-through.  The walk-through can get you past the
different adventures quickly, at the expense of experience
points....because there is not as much exploring and fighting if you
follow the walk-through to the letter.

Just a suggestion.....I could be wrong.

....Mark



--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "neftf" <Cyb0Au0Dragon215@A...> wrote:
> Dear A_Akes,
>
> Spoiler
>
> Spoiler
>
> Spoiler
>
> Sweet
>
> Sweet
>
> I once had a party of a dwarf, archer, thief, sorcerer and
> necromancer, all 8th level against the DRAGON PRINCE.  My strategy
> was as follows
>
> Before stepping into room, if not already in effect, cast CALL
GHOST
> OF KAELAN, AURA OF FORTUNE and SAVING THROW
>
> 1st Strategies, Individual
> Dwarf
> SABRE OF SPEED+* against EAGLEMAN WARRIORS until 1 left
> Archer
> GREAT CROSSBOW against DRAGON PRINCE
> Thief
> SHORT BOW against DRAGON PRINCE until HEART OF QUICKNESS.
> Sorcerer
> HORN OF FREEZING until 2 EAGLEMAN WARRIORS left
> interrupting HORN OF FREEZING to cast TREAT PARTY (15 points, two
> characters down 20 points or more).
> Necromancer
> FIRESTAFF against EAGLEMAN WARRIORS until 1 left
>
> 2nd Strategies, Individual
> Dwarf
> Cast HEART OF COURAGE on Dwarf so he can use LONG SWORD then HEART
OF
> QUICKNESS on Thief so he can use FIREBOW*
> LONGSWORD against DRAGON PRINCE
> Archer
> GREAT CROSSBOW against DRAGON PRINCE
> Thief
> FIREBOW* against DRAGON PRINCE
> Sorcerer
> RESIST FIRE on Sorcerer, Necromancer, Archer, Thief, then Dwarf.
> interrupting RESIST FIRE to cast TREAT PARTY (15 points, two
> characters down 15 points or more) or TREAT PLAYER (10 points, only
> if all players are at full health except one character who is about
> to die)
> Necromancer
> DISBELIEVE against any ELEMENTAL, if more than one ELEMENTAL, cast
on
> second, fresher, ELEMENTAL.
>
> 2nd Strategies, General
> If DRAGON PRINCE 10 feet away, attack with LONGSWORD, FIREBOW* and
> GREAT CROSSBOW.
>
> If DRAGON PRINCE by himself and more than 10 feet away, ADVANCE.
Not
> enough spellpoints to make NEAR FOE+ worthwhile.  Dwarf can do lots
> of damage with LONG SWORD (Note: knight should not need HEART OF
> COURAGE to use LONG SWORD).
>
> If DRAGON PRINCE more than 10 feet away and ELEMENTAL(s) present,
> attack ELEMENTAL with LONG SWORD and DISBELIEVE.  If more than one
> ELEMENTAL, attack first ELEMENTAL with LONG SWORD, while casting
> DISBELIEVE on second, fresher, ELEMENTAL.
>
> If KAELEN dies and party not advancing, recast him.
>
> I hope that helped.  Other strategies will work, but without
knowing
> what equipment and statistics you have, I cannot be more specific.
>
> Sincerely yours,
> NEFTF
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@y..., "a_akes" <a_akes@y...> wrote:
> > Im playing this game... all my characters are level 8... I have a
> > knight, dwarf, archer, necro, sorcerror in that order, and I can
> NOT
> > beat this dragon...
> >
> > Any advice?