Dear A_Akes,

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

Sweet

Sweet

I once had a party of a dwarf, archer, thief, sorcerer and
necromancer, all 8th level against the DRAGON PRINCE.  My strategy
was as follows

Before stepping into room, if not already in effect, cast CALL GHOST
OF KAELAN, AURA OF FORTUNE and SAVING THROW

1st Strategies, Individual
Dwarf
SABRE OF SPEED+* against EAGLEMAN WARRIORS until 1 left
Archer
GREAT CROSSBOW against DRAGON PRINCE
Thief
SHORT BOW against DRAGON PRINCE until HEART OF QUICKNESS.
Sorcerer
HORN OF FREEZING until 2 EAGLEMAN WARRIORS left
interrupting HORN OF FREEZING to cast TREAT PARTY (15 points, two
characters down 20 points or more).
Necromancer
FIRESTAFF against EAGLEMAN WARRIORS until 1 left

2nd Strategies, Individual
Dwarf
Cast HEART OF COURAGE on Dwarf so he can use LONG SWORD then HEART OF
QUICKNESS on Thief so he can use FIREBOW*
LONGSWORD against DRAGON PRINCE
Archer
GREAT CROSSBOW against DRAGON PRINCE
Thief
FIREBOW* against DRAGON PRINCE
Sorcerer
RESIST FIRE on Sorcerer, Necromancer, Archer, Thief, then Dwarf.
interrupting RESIST FIRE to cast TREAT PARTY (15 points, two
characters down 15 points or more) or TREAT PLAYER (10 points, only
if all players are at full health except one character who is about
to die)
Necromancer
DISBELIEVE against any ELEMENTAL, if more than one ELEMENTAL, cast on
second, fresher, ELEMENTAL.

2nd Strategies, General
If DRAGON PRINCE 10 feet away, attack with LONGSWORD, FIREBOW* and
GREAT CROSSBOW.

If DRAGON PRINCE by himself and more than 10 feet away, ADVANCE.  Not
enough spellpoints to make NEAR FOE+ worthwhile.  Dwarf can do lots
of damage with LONG SWORD (Note: knight should not need HEART OF
COURAGE to use LONG SWORD).

If DRAGON PRINCE more than 10 feet away and ELEMENTAL(s) present,
attack ELEMENTAL with LONG SWORD and DISBELIEVE.  If more than one
ELEMENTAL, attack first ELEMENTAL with LONG SWORD, while casting
DISBELIEVE on second, fresher, ELEMENTAL.

If KAELEN dies and party not advancing, recast him.

I hope that helped.  Other strategies will work, but without knowing
what equipment and statistics you have, I cannot be more specific.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "a_akes" <a_akes@y...> wrote:
> Im playing this game... all my characters are level 8... I have a
> knight, dwarf, archer, necro, sorcerror in that order, and I can
NOT
> beat this dragon...
>
> Any advice?

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., <bglassford@s...> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: "rbenglish18704" <renglish@w...>
> > Date: 2002/04/30 Tue AM 09:16:59 EDT
> > To: DragonBaneII@y...
> > Subject: [DragonBaneII] Thsspok won't give info
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I downloaded some clues and find that Thsspok is supposed to give
me
> > a Sewer key and info on Soli.  However, I get two nice messages,
the
> > second stating the King's emisarries are always welcome--then
that's
> > it.  I get get the Talk/Exit options again.  Help??? I can't get
any
> > further.
>
> You need to have solved the previous level before Thsspok will
help.  To do that, you have to solve the cellar completely and have
found the wizard in the wild to get another team member.

Thanks, I thought I had.  I met the Wizard in the wild, but did
not "get" Unger as I didn't have room in the Party.  Does that
matter, or did I maybe miss something in the Cellar.  Thanks for your
help, though.  I'll check out the cellar again and go back
and "release" Unger if need be--Rick

I've beaten the dragon prince with a dwarf, necro, troglodite, thief, and
wizard. :) You just have to have sunfruits and it would help if you had
your necromancer cast treat player or a spell to recover spell points or
hit points. And if you have a thief, near foe helps a lot!

At 10:33 PM 4/29/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Im playing this game... all my characters are level 8... I have a
>knight, dwarf, archer, necro, sorcerror in that order, and I can NOT
>beat this dragon...
>
>Any advice?

Dana Marshall
handheld@...
<http://www.danawheels.net>

>
> From: "rbenglish18704" <renglish@...>
> Date: 2002/04/30 Tue AM 09:16:59 EDT
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] Thsspok won't give info
>
> Hi All,
> I downloaded some clues and find that Thsspok is supposed to give me
> a Sewer key and info on Soli.  However, I get two nice messages, the
> second stating the King's emisarries are always welcome--then that's
> it.  I get get the Talk/Exit options again.  Help??? I can't get any
> further.

You need to have solved the previous level before Thsspok will help.  To do
that, you have to solve the cellar completely and have found the wizard in the
wild to get another team member.

Hi All,
I downloaded some clues and find that Thsspok is supposed to give me
a Sewer key and info on Soli.  However, I get two nice messages, the
second stating the King's emisarries are always welcome--then that's
it.  I get get the Talk/Exit options again.  Help??? I can't get any
further.

Oh, the Dragon Prince... well, do you have Sunfruits? Um, what are you
doing to keep from dying?

At 10:33 PM 4/29/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Im playing this game... all my characters are level 8... I have a
>knight, dwarf, archer, necro, sorcerror in that order, and I can NOT
>beat this dragon...
>
>Any advice?
>
>
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<http://www.danawheels.net>

Im playing this game... all my characters are level 8... I have a
knight, dwarf, archer, necro, sorcerror in that order, and I can NOT
beat this dragon...

Any advice?

Dear Bullet318,

If you have not played Dragon Bane 1 (DB1), that is also a good game.

Many people find replaying Dragon Bane 2:"Return of Kra'an"
(DB2:MSRK) with a single party member, instead of five party members,
to be fun.

There are also other role-playing games out there for the Palm OS.

Have you considered creating a new Dragon Bane adventure yourself?
DB2ACK is very easy to use.  If you have trouble with it, the Forum
here and Mythological Software are both very good at helping with
your questions.

Or you could get together with a group of people here and create an
adventure.  Some people are better at art, others at puzzles, others
at game mechanics, by working as a group, the end result is often
better than working alone.

Or you could design a single level or "Dungeon Tile" and post it to
the file section here.  People can then take prebuilt tiles from the
file section, modify them slightly, and create a new adventures in
the fraction of the time it takes to start from scratch.  "Return of
Kra'an" consists of 29 maps, a lot of programming.  I myself was
hoping Mythological Software would release the original 29 maps, but
understand the many reasons such a move would be silly.  If every one
on this forum- 238- built a single level, that would allow 8 new
adventures with all unique levels.  Or you could assemble the 238
Dungeon Tiles in different orders and have as many as... oh well, my
calculator doesn't go that high (it returns 9.9999999999 x 10 to the
99th power).  By changing, blending and stamping "Dungeon Tiles"
designers could build infinite new adventures quicker.  Several
popular role playing systems take this approach and publish blank
maps, or mini-dungeons which people can change as they see fit.

If you do decide to use DB2ACK I recommend going to palmos.com and
downloading POSE so you can play/ debug your adventure in color.  I
played DB2:MSRK in black & white first, then in color.  Color was
almost like playing a different adventure.

If none of the above apeals to you, simply hang in there.  Three
years after DB1, Mythological Software- previously Palm Creations-
advertised on the Dragon Bane Forum for DB2:MSRK playtesters, so I'm
sure when someone gets an adventure ready for playtesting, they will
request playtesters from the Dragon Bane Forums on Yahoo Groups.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF
"Cheap, Fast, Good.  Pick Two"- Old design team saying.

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "Bullet318" <bullet318@y...> wrote:
> I finished the Dragon Bane 2 New Treleon Adventure about a month
> ago.  Does anyone know if there are new adventures available to
> download?
>
> Thanks.

I finished the Dragon Bane 2 New Treleon Adventure about a month
ago.  Does anyone know if there are new adventures available to
download?

Thanks.

Just wanted to add that there is a solution LapTopHack that you can
buy for the treo that will work around this (see post in dragon-bane
Yahoo forum).

Also, we have a fix that will go into 1.0.3 whenever that is.  But
if you are a treo user and want it before then, email us.

-Jason

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "jlfreund" <freund@m...> wrote:
> I guess it can't be done.  I think we're going to put in a fix for
> treo real soon though.  But just for DB2, not DB1.
>
> Jason
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@y..., "ratatosk999" <mch@s...> wrote:
> > Does anyone use DB II on the Treo 180 (non-graffiti, it has a
> > keyboard).
> >
> > The device doesn't have silkscreen buttons which seems to make
> > switching between views impossible. Am I missing something
obvious?
> >
> > Any ideas on how to make this work?

-----Original Message-----
From: markragland
Sent: Thu 4/25/2002 6:34 PM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Question about poisons and shoppes

1.  Is there any way to cure poison apart from going back to the
temple, or having a staff of serpents?  My necromancer is not yet at
level 4 spells either.

2.  Also, I am at the Lord's Lair level, and am trying to remember
other shoppes apart from NT.  I can't get any good magic stuff there.

Any thoughts on these points would be most appreciated.

Thank you,

Mark

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1.  Is there any way to cure poison apart from going back to the
temple, or having a staff of serpents?  My necromancer is not yet at
level 4 spells either.

2.  Also, I am at the Lord's Lair level, and am trying to remember
other shoppes apart from NT.  I can't get any good magic stuff there.

Any thoughts on these points would be most appreciated.

Thank you,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: markragland [mailto:markragland@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:19 PM
To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonBaneII] Walk-Through: Teleporter in Goblin Palace

According to the Walk-Through, we are supposed to take the knock-
knock teleporter in the "NW" part of Palace.  The location is
actually "NE"

I would like to thank Larry for such a fine walkthrough, and this
comment is in no way critical of his exhaustive work.

Thanks again !

..Mark


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>
> From: "chasim70" <chasim70@...>
> Date: 2002/04/25 Thu AM 09:43:35 EDT
> To: DragonBaneII@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DragonBaneII] Spells (newbe need help)
>
> I recently installed DB2 and am enjoying the game... all my
> characters are level 3... but where do I find thier 2nd, 3rd, etc.
> letter spells? Are they sold somewhere?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Second level spells are gained at character level 5, third level at character
level 9, fourth level spells at character level 13.

Hope that helps.

I recently installed DB2 and am enjoying the game... all my
characters are level 3... but where do I find thier 2nd, 3rd, etc.
letter spells? Are they sold somewhere?

Thanks in advance.

It's kind of goofy the way it works, but it's based on elemental's
level and strength only.

if (c->class == class_elemental) {
     tempDamage = MAX(1,(NORM(c->strength)-22)) * c->level/2;
}

/* Give damage from damage/2 to damage */
damage = RandomShort(tempDamage >> 1, tempDamage) + 1;

Where NORM forces its value to be between 1..99

-Jason

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "neftf" <Cyb0Au0Dragon215@A...> wrote:
> Dear Jason,
>
> What is the formula for damage from an elemental's attack- not
fire
> elemental, but any summoned being such as the GRIZZLY or the IQTAR?
>
> Thank you for your time and effort in this matter
>
> Sincerely yours,
> NEFTF
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@y..., Jason Freund <freund@m...> wrote:
> >  in the case of spell damage,
> >
> > the physical damage = physical + Random(0, physical/2)
> >
> > (I guess we wanted more randomness in the game :)
> >
> > If there is also a fire/magic component to the damage of that
> particular
> > spell, it will get added to the total as well, however it gets
> reduced by
> > the target's anti-fire, anti-magic before the final fire/magic
> value is
> > randomized as follows.
> >
> > The exact code for spell attacks is:
> >
> >     damage = kill = hitPhysical = 0;
> >     physical = ((short)spell->value +
> > (short)RandomChar(0, spell->value >> 1));
> > hitPhysical = successfulHit(c->level, monster->armor_class -
> >                   monsterEncounter.armorAll, accuracy);
> > if (monster->special && !(monster->special &
> > spell->special)) {
> >                     hitPhysical = 0;
> >                 }
> >
> >                 fire = ((99-monster->resistFire) * spell-
>fire) /
> 100;
> >     fire = RandomShort(fire >> 1, fire);
> >                 magic = ((99-monster->resistMagic) * spell-
> >magic) / 100;
> >     magic = RandomShort(magic >> 1, magic);
> >
> >     if (hitPhysical) {
> >      damage += physical;
> >      damage += fire;
> > damage += magic;
> >     }
> >
> >
> > Note: ">>1" is the same as saying "/2"
>
> >   --- In DragonBaneII@y..., "jlfreund" <freund@m...> wrote:
> >   > In the case of any
> >   > hand weapon, physical damage is computed as:
> >   >
> >   > if (strength > 20) {
> >   >     Pdamage = Pdamage + strength - 20;
> >   > }
> >   > Pdamage = Random(Pdamge/2,  Pdamage) + 1;

According to the Walk-Through, we are supposed to take the knock-
knock teleporter in the "NW" part of Palace.  The location is
actually "NE"

I would like to thank Larry for such a fine walkthrough, and this
comment is in no way critical of his exhaustive work.

Thanks again !

..Mark

Oh, and a thief. *grin*

And now I know why it IS easier. *laugh*

At 06:44 PM 4/24/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear Dana,
>
>That has to be the deadliest 4 character party.  The DWARF cast HEART
>OF COURAGE so he can use borderline hand weapons, and MARK OF THE
>NIMBLE so the TROGLODYTE can use borderline range weapons, the WIZARD
>can cast strong attack, attack group and attack all spells, the
>NECROMANCER can cast MANA SPIRIT and LIFE VORTEX on groups of
>monsters for mana recharging.  You have all the elementals, so you
>can pick the best for the task: for individual monster encounters-
>and BELLIGERENCE- you have GRIZZLY, KAELAN, IQTAR and SHEOLAN.  For
>healing WIND MAGE can cast TREAT PLAYER, TREAT PARTY, and REGENERATE
>PLAYER, for group attack WIND MAGE can cast STONES or FIRE ELEMENTAL
>can cast CONFUSE, for attack all the FIRE ELEMENTAL can cast FLAME
>ARC.
>
>Have fun.
>
>Sincerely yours,
>NEFTF
>
>--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> > Oooo... thanks for the tip. :) I've got a party where I have a
>Necromancer,
> > a dwarf, a wizard and a troglodite. :)
> >
> > It seems combat is easier this time around.
> >
> > Dana
>
>
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Dear Jason,

What is the formula for damage from an elemental's attack- not fire
elemental, but any summoned being such as the GRIZZLY or the IQTAR?

Thank you for your time and effort in this matter

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Jason Freund <freund@m...> wrote:
>  in the case of spell damage,
>
> the physical damage = physical + Random(0, physical/2)
>
> (I guess we wanted more randomness in the game :)
>
> If there is also a fire/magic component to the damage of that
particular
> spell, it will get added to the total as well, however it gets
reduced by
> the target's anti-fire, anti-magic before the final fire/magic
value is
> randomized as follows.
>
> The exact code for spell attacks is:
>
>     damage = kill = hitPhysical = 0;
>     physical = ((short)spell->value +
> (short)RandomChar(0, spell->value >> 1));
> hitPhysical = successfulHit(c->level, monster->armor_class -
>                   monsterEncounter.armorAll, accuracy);
> if (monster->special && !(monster->special &
> spell->special)) {
>                     hitPhysical = 0;
>                 }
>
>                 fire = ((99-monster->resistFire) * spell->fire) /
100;
>     fire = RandomShort(fire >> 1, fire);
>                 magic = ((99-monster->resistMagic) * spell-
>magic) / 100;
>     magic = RandomShort(magic >> 1, magic);
>
>     if (hitPhysical) {
>      damage += physical;
>      damage += fire;
> damage += magic;
>     }
>
>
> Note: ">>1" is the same as saying "/2"

>   --- In DragonBaneII@y..., "jlfreund" <freund@m...> wrote:
>   > In the case of any
>   > hand weapon, physical damage is computed as:
>   >
>   > if (strength > 20) {
>   >     Pdamage = Pdamage + strength - 20;
>   > }
>   > Pdamage = Random(Pdamge/2,  Pdamage) + 1;

Dear Dana,

That has to be the deadliest 4 character party.  The DWARF cast HEART
OF COURAGE so he can use borderline hand weapons, and MARK OF THE
NIMBLE so the TROGLODYTE can use borderline range weapons, the WIZARD
can cast strong attack, attack group and attack all spells, the
NECROMANCER can cast MANA SPIRIT and LIFE VORTEX on groups of
monsters for mana recharging.  You have all the elementals, so you
can pick the best for the task: for individual monster encounters-
and BELLIGERENCE- you have GRIZZLY, KAELAN, IQTAR and SHEOLAN.  For
healing WIND MAGE can cast TREAT PLAYER, TREAT PARTY, and REGENERATE
PLAYER, for group attack WIND MAGE can cast STONES or FIRE ELEMENTAL
can cast CONFUSE, for attack all the FIRE ELEMENTAL can cast FLAME
ARC.

Have fun.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> Oooo... thanks for the tip. :) I've got a party where I have a
Necromancer,
> a dwarf, a wizard and a troglodite. :)
>
> It seems combat is easier this time around.
>
> Dana

Oooo... thanks for the tip. :) I've got a party where I have a Necromancer,
a dwarf, a wizard and a troglodite. :)

It seems combat is easier this time around.

Dana

At 09:54 AM 4/24/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear Dana,
>
><grin> I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.  I hate two kinds of
>traps- steal items and lose map.  I use revelation and if I detect a
>trap I first save the game then trigger the trap.  Most traps are one
>shot and then you don't have to worry about it.  If it is a steal
>item or lose map, I then try levitation to get over it.
>
>I'm told parties of one are for people with a lot of time on their
>hands.  Right now I'm working with DB2ACK, so I don't have that kind
>of time.  One day I want to try it, because it will simplify the game
>and sounds fun.
>
>In the past, I have only used BELLIGERENCE against boss creatures.  I
>usually use spell weapons like bows & wands or group attack weapons
>like KAELAN'S MACE+*, none of which BELLIGERENCE works on.  The FIRE
>ELEMENTAL can cast FLAME ARC- attack all- and CONFUSE- stop a group
>of monsters- which can dramatically shorten combat in the TOWER
>levels.
>
>Spoiler
>
>Spoiler
>
>Spoiler
>
>Sweet
>
>Sweet
>
>It looks like the SHEOLAN would be handy in KRA'AN'S LAIR since they
>have a base damage of 306 per attack to the FIRE ELEMENTAL'S base
>damage of 126.  Most of the annoying creatures in that level are
>groups of 1 or 2 monsters.
>
>Sincerely yours,
>NEFTF
>
>--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> > I've never used revelation. *grin*
> >
> > Hmm... okay, I like Shoelan, especially if you cast Belligerence on
>the
> > group. *grin*
> >
> > >One
> > >day, I want to try "Return of Kra'an" with party of one- GYRKO.
> > Wow. Not up to that yet. I'll try with a troglodite and a dwarf. :)
> >
> > Dana Marshall
> > handheld@d...
> > <<http://www.danawheels.net>http://www.danawheels.net>
>
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Dear Dana,

<grin> I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.  I hate two kinds of
traps- steal items and lose map.  I use revelation and if I detect a
trap I first save the game then trigger the trap.  Most traps are one
shot and then you don't have to worry about it.  If it is a steal
item or lose map, I then try levitation to get over it.

I'm told parties of one are for people with a lot of time on their
hands.  Right now I'm working with DB2ACK, so I don't have that kind
of time.  One day I want to try it, because it will simplify the game
and sounds fun.

In the past, I have only used BELLIGERENCE against boss creatures.  I
usually use spell weapons like bows & wands or group attack weapons
like KAELAN'S MACE+*, none of which BELLIGERENCE works on.  The FIRE
ELEMENTAL can cast FLAME ARC- attack all- and CONFUSE- stop a group
of monsters- which can dramatically shorten combat in the TOWER
levels.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

Sweet

Sweet

It looks like the SHEOLAN would be handy in KRA'AN'S LAIR since they
have a base damage of 306 per attack to the FIRE ELEMENTAL'S base
damage of 126.  Most of the annoying creatures in that level are
groups of 1 or 2 monsters.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> I've never used revelation. *grin*
>
> Hmm... okay, I like Shoelan, especially if you cast Belligerence on
the
> group. *grin*
>
> >One
> >day, I want to try "Return of Kra'an" with party of one- GYRKO.
> Wow. Not up to that yet. I'll try with a troglodite and a dwarf. :)
>
> Dana Marshall
> handheld@d...
> <http://www.danawheels.net>

Thanks! Okay, so how do you do this with only ONE person??? Especially one
that can't cast Open Portal? I use Open Portal a LOT! *grin*

At 12:17 PM 4/23/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Good Job D!
>
>Nef'- I thought about Gyrko for a solo quest, but as he can't cast
>levitation to get over the traps can he?  I stuck with Heric on my
>Solo Quest (see my earlier e-mail) and made a lot of trips back to NT
>to heal.

Dana Marshall
handheld@...
<http://www.danawheels.net>

Okay, it's not my imagination that the sunfruit girl only shows up ONCE a
weekend, right? If you buy from her on Saturday she doesn't show up on
Sunday, right? Sucks, I could have used more sunfruits, but maybe it would
have made the game too easy. *grin*

Dana Marshall
handheld@...
<http://www.danawheels.net>

At 08:06 AM 4/23/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear Dana,
>
>Congratulations!
>
>If you play again without a SORCERER you should consider a DWARF-
>immune to poison, daze and insanity- or a TROGLODYTE- cure spells-
>for your party.  I like the DWARF's innate MAGIC COMPASS ability and
>the TROGLODYTE's innate REVELATION ability since most of my THIEF's
>spell points go to MAGIC COMPASS and REVELATION otherwise.

I've never used revelation. *grin*

>Digression: If my party contains at least one mage, I always make it
>a SORCERER, they are just too handy for healing.  On the other hand,
>considering the monsters you tend to encounter in "Return of Kra'an",
>I just don't find the WIZARD to be useful, his main advantage is his
>attack all spells.  I also find the GRIZZLY- 1st level mage gets a
>4th level attacking elemental, GHOST OF KAELON- casts KAELAN'S
>BLESSING on party, WIND MAGE- healing and attack group, and FIRE
>ELEMENTAL- confuse and attack all- more useful than WIZARD WALL,
>ANIMATED SWORD, IQTAR, and SHOELAN.

Hmm... okay, I like Shoelan, especially if you cast Belligerence on the
group. *grin*

>Digression: Lots of people here have fun with a small party.  One
>day, I want to try "Return of Kra'an" with party of one- GYRKO.
>Dwarves are immune to poison, daze & insanity, have a decent chance
>to hit with DRAGON BANE, and have innate MAGIC COMPASS.

Wow. Not up to that yet. I'll try with a troglodite and a dwarf. :)

>Sincerely yours,
>NEFTF

Dana Marshall
handheld@...
<http://www.danawheels.net>

Dear Hank_5

"Have fun storming the castle!"- Old Lady in _Princess Bride_

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "hank_5" <henry5@m...> wrote:
> Just Checked the manual...Gyrko casts levitation as well.  Now I
know
> my next adventure!

Dear Hank_5,

The only spells HERIC gets but GYKRO doesn't are:
PICK LOCK/ TRAP ZAP- just open chest and take the damage
ALCHEMY/ MATERIALIZE- handy but not essential
CONFUSE/ BESERK- not needed in solo adventuring
INVISIBILITY- GYKRO gets heavier armor faster and more HITPOINTS then
HERIC
NEAR FOE- just ADVANCE in solo adventuring
FAR FOE- not needed in solo adventuring

GYKRO has:
        Innate MAGIC COMPASS- great against monsters that zap your
MAGIC COMPASS
        HEART OF COURAGE/ MARK OF THE VALIANT- not only does more
damage with single attack weapons like a HATCHET, but lets you carry
a borderline weapon.  If you have a STRENGTH 25 you would have to
wait two more levels to use a KAELAN'S MACE+*, but GYKRO can carry an
equipped HATCHET normally and for group combats an unequipped
KAELAN'S MACE+*, use 2 SPELLPOINTS, cast HEART OF COURAGE, and then
use KAELAN'S MACE+* for the rest of combat against those 5 GIANT ANTS.
        Better weapons- higher STRENTGH can use deadlier hand weapons
faster.  Hand weapons tend to do more damage than range weapons.
        Better armor- higher STRENTGH can use heavier armor faster,
lower AC means less monsters can hit.
        Better HITPOINTS

But HERIC would be fun to use also.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "hank_5" <henry5@m...> wrote:
> Nef'- I thought about Gyrko for a solo quest, but as he can't cast
> levitation to get over the traps can he?  I stuck with Heric on my
> Solo Quest (see my earlier e-mail) and made a lot of trips back to
NT
> to heal.

Dear Hank_5,

I never thought of using Heric, that is a good idea.  He can cast
MAGIC COMPASS, INVISIBILITY, and BELLIGERENCE, is decent with both
sword and bows, gets bonus gold and items from lotting monsters, and
has a decent amount of HITPOINTS.

I'll have to try that after I use GYRKO.

Sincerely yours,
NEFTF

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "hank_5" <henry5@m...> wrote:
> Well I took to doing that in DB
> II with just Heric in my party.
>
> Now it's off to the easter egg to kill Gromit, Irie and their evil
> Masters.

Just Checked the manual...Gyrko casts levitation as well.  Now I know
my next adventure!

--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "hank_5" <henry5@m...> wrote:
> Good Job D!
>
> Nef'- I thought about Gyrko for a solo quest, but as he can't cast
> levitation to get over the traps can he?  I stuck with Heric on my
> Solo Quest (see my earlier e-mail) and made a lot of trips back to NT
> to heal.
>
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@y..., "neftf" <Cyb0Au0Dragon215@A...> wrote:
> > Dear Dana,
> >
> > Congratulations!
> >
> > If you play again without a SORCERER you should consider a DWARF-
> > immune to poison, daze and insanity- or a TROGLODYTE- cure spells-
> > for your party.  I like the DWARF's innate MAGIC COMPASS ability and
> > the TROGLODYTE's innate REVELATION ability since most of my THIEF's
> > spell points go to MAGIC COMPASS and REVELATION otherwise.
> >
> > Digression: If my party contains at least one mage, I always make it
> > a SORCERER, they are just too handy for healing.  On the other hand,
> > considering the monsters you tend to encounter in "Return of Kra'an",
> > I just don't find the WIZARD to be useful, his main advantage is his
> > attack all spells.  I also find the GRIZZLY- 1st level mage gets a
> > 4th level attacking elemental, GHOST OF KAELON- casts KAELAN'S
> > BLESSING on party, WIND MAGE- healing and attack group, and FIRE
> > ELEMENTAL- confuse and attack all- more useful than WIZARD WALL,
> > ANIMATED SWORD, IQTAR, and SHOELAN.
> >
> > Digression: Lots of people here have fun with a small party.  One
> > day, I want to try "Return of Kra'an" with party of one- GYRKO.
> > Dwarves are immune to poison, daze & insanity, have a decent chance
> > to hit with DRAGON BANE, and have innate MAGIC COMPASS.
> >
> > Sincerely yours,
> > NEFTF
> >
> > --- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> > > All in all, it was a great game now I'm going back to see if I can
> > win it
> > > with a different party, maybe using a necromancer this time,
> > although, he's
> > > not as strong in the healing spells as Poe.
> > >
> > > Dana Marshall
> > > handheld@d...
> > > <http://www.danawheels.net>

Good Job D!

Nef'- I thought about Gyrko for a solo quest, but as he can't cast
levitation to get over the traps can he?  I stuck with Heric on my
Solo Quest (see my earlier e-mail) and made a lot of trips back to NT
to heal.


--- In DragonBaneII@y..., "neftf" <Cyb0Au0Dragon215@A...> wrote:
> Dear Dana,
>
> Congratulations!
>
> If you play again without a SORCERER you should consider a DWARF-
> immune to poison, daze and insanity- or a TROGLODYTE- cure spells-
> for your party.  I like the DWARF's innate MAGIC COMPASS ability and
> the TROGLODYTE's innate REVELATION ability since most of my THIEF's
> spell points go to MAGIC COMPASS and REVELATION otherwise.
>
> Digression: If my party contains at least one mage, I always make it
> a SORCERER, they are just too handy for healing.  On the other hand,
> considering the monsters you tend to encounter in "Return of Kra'an",
> I just don't find the WIZARD to be useful, his main advantage is his
> attack all spells.  I also find the GRIZZLY- 1st level mage gets a
> 4th level attacking elemental, GHOST OF KAELON- casts KAELAN'S
> BLESSING on party, WIND MAGE- healing and attack group, and FIRE
> ELEMENTAL- confuse and attack all- more useful than WIZARD WALL,
> ANIMATED SWORD, IQTAR, and SHOELAN.
>
> Digression: Lots of people here have fun with a small party.  One
> day, I want to try "Return of Kra'an" with party of one- GYRKO.
> Dwarves are immune to poison, daze & insanity, have a decent chance
> to hit with DRAGON BANE, and have innate MAGIC COMPASS.
>
> Sincerely yours,
> NEFTF
>
> --- In DragonBaneII@y..., Dana Marshall <handheld@d...> wrote:
> > All in all, it was a great game now I'm going back to see if I can
> win it
> > with a different party, maybe using a necromancer this time,
> although, he's
> > not as strong in the healing spells as Poe.
> >
> > Dana Marshall
> > handheld@d...
> > <http://www.danawheels.net>